Bush family - Nazi link

ok honestly. Are you being serious here? the thread I started earlier is basically aimed at things like this. a lot of the links you post are connected to very shaky material and is just inflamatory. This is right on par with my aunt claiming the world is coming to an end and investing heavily into gold. (she's a clynical paranoid)

If its all in good humor with these sites then fine, go ahead and we can all laugh at them. But do you honestly believe all this stuff.



ps I dislike dubyah a lot. but this is just rediculous.

Well its funny and grandpa bush (not bush sr. or current bush) was a war profiteer and had ties with nazis.. there's no arguing that :pI posted a link about something just recently how certain files and documentation on that matter was removed recently but there was preserved FBI files of it..

Inflamatory? Hah..
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:thefinger
No just putting down every single bit about the pro-war government. Nitpicking :rolleyes:

http://www.rememberjohn.com/Nazis.html

Plenty of these. You'll find the pdf files i talk about in one of the threads below. It's not ridiculous at all. Bush can shuv it and his little crew.

I'm going to have to question your proof as well. The beauty of the internet is that it is a bastion for complete free speech. I'm sure you know this also means that anything can be posted. The same crazy aunt of mine also pointed us to many links to pictures from the mars probe that took all the pictures of the surface and gave "undeniable proof" that there was a civilization there at some point.

proof can be made. read some of your articles more closely and realise the lies abound on both sides and that clinging to eaither side of the story will probably not be the truth.

The article you posted on Jessica lynch claims they were good friends with her and that all the bruises she aquired and other blunt trauma was probably from falling from her vehicle. do you really believe this from a country that when they thought they had shot down a plane and that the pilots were in the river that the entire populace went down to shoot into the reeds....Come on now.


read them carefully take it all in, and try to find the truth rather then accepting the tales biased sides will spin you.

Originally posted by fearless_simian
do you really believe this from a country that when they thought they had shot down a plane and that the pilots were in the river that the entire populace went down to shoot into the reeds....Come on now.



Now that is just funny and ironic...
you are talking about how both sides of the stories are usually exaggerated and how neither is probably true.
The quote above is extremely likely to be total worthless crap propaganda - yet you used it to support your point after saying how you realize that news is biased and flawed.

However, here is some truth about Jessica Lynch. It is from an investigation that BBC actually did. Lynch was made out to be a prisoner of war in an extremely horrid condition (some claimed she was tortured, etc.) The truth is, she was held in a CIVILIAN HOSPITAL with no Iraqi troops in the vicinity, and one of the doctors there, who is, get this - the "shooting in the river to kill some Americans Iraqi bastard," gave his own blood for Lynch. She was being taken care of when the American troops stormed in and "rescued" her.... err... actually, they came in and just took her, as there ware no Iraqi troops to "oppose" them.
The reason the United States decided to fill this rescue story with a pile of crap is because US needed a "hero" for the war, or otherwise it's kind of boring.

Thank you..

The whole rescue and her sudden 'amnesia' is sooo bullshit.. it was right out of the movies.. plz :X Everything is god damn ridicilous even bush' monkey face is ridicilous... everything is ridicilous what the hell isn't ridicilious or propaganda or whatever... cmon.. lol..

The fact is prescott bush or whatever the hell his name was a war profiteer with great ties with nazis... in the same bank that laundered nazi money, etc.. just google it sure its 'ridicilous' right.. check those pdf files i told you about.

Everything is god damn ridicilous, 'to the left', propaganda, anti-american.. wtf isn't?

Funny how you easily bypassed those images of civillians.. thats bs too? Why would this link also be ridicilious..
http://www.shwa.org/topic/iraqwar/iraqwarpictures01.htm
Watch that video.. its amusing these threads are multiple but they wind down to one point, either you're with bush or not lol.. hah.. what bullshit :/

Watch that ABC realmedia video on that page.. very intriguing to compare what was said and done during the war on both sides. Man I swear I hope that reporter who was cheering the bombing and said "Should they have used more daisy cutters? Should they have used MOAB's? The Mother of All Bombs?" "Lets not stop at a few cruise missiles!" "Yeah! I want to see them use that MOAB!" I hope he gets a heart attack or gets hit by a car..

Giving sweets to kids.. plz :/ Of course the kids will smile.. stuff like that.. little nitpicking.. nothing is RIDICILIOUS unless you make it ridicilous. Quite frankly I see the US side ridicilious and I'm glad Canada didn't participate in this illegal war and hopefuly won't in any further, other illegal wars (Iran, Syria, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia?)

I didn't follow her story too closely. And that all may be very true. but parts of the story just go a little too far it seems. like a very special traction bed they had being ruined, or other parts of it. It just has the feel of a rather biased source.

I'll rescind that point if it makes you happier and make an example linking to site like tostupidtobepresident.com and smirkingchimp

If you want to give these articles a larger feel of legitimacy then get them from their origional source. like the AP.

There are many lynch reports.. notice how it suddenly died down as well? I posted several of them from BBC (I try not to post 'left' -- hah whatever that means ey... -- news sites), BBC is recognized well so.. :/ I posted some other non-BBC as well.

What did her parents say? Well they were outraged at the amnesia claims, they were kept quiet on the issue, little things like that.. I mean cmon.. isn't it obvious to be skeptical.. Super heroine rescued by other heros and suddenly has amnesia can't remember whta was done by the evil evil iraqis.. err evil civillian doctors... ya :/

Originally posted by fearless_simian
If you want to give these articles a larger feel of legitimacy then get them from their origional source. like the AP.

Are you talking to me? Or gigatron?
The truth about Lynch was exposed through a BBC investigation. If anyone of the big guys in the media, I'd put my trust with BBC.

Ya that's what I said, since its recognized by 'both sides' of the conflict more or less.. but still bbc doesnt pots everything. At times it doesn't report everything.. but then most of the time the 'leftist sites' (oh man i hate this shitty labeling), post much that is left out of the mainstream.. but then the rightwings brush it off like bullcrap.. its so sad that the mainstream has this cling onto ppl's minds :/ Revisionist history..

I started this thread in regards to the bush family, oil history record, and most importantly grandpa bush nazi link :p Of course the first reply i get is 'this is ridicilous' :rolleyes:

I mean cmon.. lol i'm not some wacked out conspirator, i can be skeptical but i go after fact and unchangable information :/ I mean cmon lol I don't go about saying things like "Hey remember that disney movie aladin, in the cave when the genie comes out he says "should i call you din ladin? or just aladin" " and then make up some "look look they knew about bin laden and his 'master plan'" rofl.. ok that sounds funny and stupid but my point is i go after what happend and then link it to today, i look at patterns and what might happen. I look at timelines the patterns there. Recent events, contradictions, doublestandards, etc.. i give rational thought believe it or not :rolleyes: Yes sometimes i sound 'out of this world' and 'ridicilious' because i may post a link that gives information that is either unheard of and/or unheard of and 'radical' against bush and his crew :/ Yet.. a majority of the US population would listen to CNN then some 'lunatic' rofl.. Also I know what you talk about your aunt. The topographic pictures of mars with pyramids, city like clusters and what looked like artifical pathways etc.. :/ That's a whole different ball game lets stick to current events :P

yo igor, the economist is extremely good about being objective in their articles and reports. the bbc is my most trust worthy source too.

Let's not forget Ford and GM also did a lot of business with the German army...

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was a war profiteer and had ties with nazis..

Do you believe in the same things your grandfather believes in? To be completely honest I dont know much if anything about my grandfathers political beliefs. I have no idea about what he thought. Basically what I know is that he was an alcoholic army drill seargant who was very abusive to his wife and son until at the age of 50 he stopped drinking all together and was an AA counseler for 20 years until he died.

I am nothing like him. I never drink, I am not abusive to anyone(especially my wife and kids), and I work in a very white collar industry. Even if Bushs grandfather was tied to Nazi's you cannot judge JR by that. I am a firm Bush supporter. I am not thrilled that they have not found WMD's in Iraq, but still support him 100%. I think that if nothing is ever found that whoever provided the so called intellegence to the president must be made accountable. You may as well read the Inquirer!

Originally posted by igor@af



Now that is just funny and ironic...
you are talking about how both sides of the stories are usually exaggerated and how neither is probably true.
The quote above is extremely likely to be total worthless crap propaganda - yet you used it to support your point after saying how you realize that news is biased and flawed.

However, here is some truth about Jessica Lynch. It is from an investigation that BBC actually did. Lynch was made out to be a prisoner of war in an extremely horrid condition (some claimed she was tortured, etc.) The truth is, she was held in a CIVILIAN HOSPITAL with no Iraqi troops in the vicinity, and one of the doctors there, who is, get this - the "shooting in the river to kill some Americans Iraqi bastard," gave his own blood for Lynch. She was being taken care of when the American troops stormed in and "rescued" her.... err... actually, they came in and just took her, as there ware no Iraqi troops to "oppose" them.
The reason the United States decided to fill this rescue story with a pile of crap is because US needed a "hero" for the war, or otherwise it's kind of boring.

AF God speaks!! WHOOOOO