Tyrell P34 Six Wheeler
Guido
06-09-2003, 08:51 AM
Hi,
Last march I visited the Donnington Collection (http://www.doningtoncollection.com) in the UK. The largest single seater museum in the world :eek:
There was this Tyrell P34 on display. It took some detail shots of it and they are now posted on my site Automotomover (http://users.skynet.be/automotomover) . So if you're gonna build Tamiya's P34 in 1/20th scale, these can be of some help. :wink:
http://users.skynet.be/automotomover/real/p34/p34-1.jpg
Last march I visited the Donnington Collection (http://www.doningtoncollection.com) in the UK. The largest single seater museum in the world :eek:
There was this Tyrell P34 on display. It took some detail shots of it and they are now posted on my site Automotomover (http://users.skynet.be/automotomover) . So if you're gonna build Tamiya's P34 in 1/20th scale, these can be of some help. :wink:
http://users.skynet.be/automotomover/real/p34/p34-1.jpg
z33guy
06-09-2003, 09:31 AM
very interesting car, but i never could get those wheels to grow on me
bigfrit
06-09-2003, 11:12 AM
Woah!
Some great pictures there !
I love that car ! Actually I think it's not the only car ever to be made in formula one with six wheels, before it was banned, I remember vaguuely a BMW Formula one prototype (lab-car) having four back wheels, making it 4*6 !
Oh, and a little question, did this car actually do well with this set-up,
I understand it wins -aerodynamically speaking-, but will the tyre wear not eclipse this advantage ?
(btw, the car Tamiya brought out in 1/20th scale, has a slightly different frontal and cowling, leaving the back side open for the Monaco GP IIRC)
Olivier
Some great pictures there !
I love that car ! Actually I think it's not the only car ever to be made in formula one with six wheels, before it was banned, I remember vaguuely a BMW Formula one prototype (lab-car) having four back wheels, making it 4*6 !
Oh, and a little question, did this car actually do well with this set-up,
I understand it wins -aerodynamically speaking-, but will the tyre wear not eclipse this advantage ?
(btw, the car Tamiya brought out in 1/20th scale, has a slightly different frontal and cowling, leaving the back side open for the Monaco GP IIRC)
Olivier
Raging Bull
06-09-2003, 02:23 PM
Sweet, i bin there 2. i got some pretty cool photos. will look for place to upload them.
rcmaxx
06-09-2003, 03:05 PM
did you get any pictures of the row of Mclarens? :smile:
freakray
06-09-2003, 03:19 PM
Originally posted by bigfrit
Woah!
Some great pictures there !
I love that car ! Actually I think it's not the only car ever to be made in formula one with six wheels, before it was banned, I remember vaguuely a BMW Formula one prototype (lab-car) having four back wheels, making it 4*6 !
Oh, and a little question, did this car actually do well with this set-up,
I understand it wins -aerodynamically speaking-, but will the tyre wear not eclipse this advantage ?
(btw, the car Tamiya brought out in 1/20th scale, has a slightly different frontal and cowling, leaving the back side open for the Monaco GP IIRC)
Olivier
Tamiya makes the car in 2 different versions.
If I remember correctly, one of the main reasons it was dropped so quickly was the tyre manufacturer issues, the suppliers weren't willing to cater to the very specific requests of Tyrell.
Woah!
Some great pictures there !
I love that car ! Actually I think it's not the only car ever to be made in formula one with six wheels, before it was banned, I remember vaguuely a BMW Formula one prototype (lab-car) having four back wheels, making it 4*6 !
Oh, and a little question, did this car actually do well with this set-up,
I understand it wins -aerodynamically speaking-, but will the tyre wear not eclipse this advantage ?
(btw, the car Tamiya brought out in 1/20th scale, has a slightly different frontal and cowling, leaving the back side open for the Monaco GP IIRC)
Olivier
Tamiya makes the car in 2 different versions.
If I remember correctly, one of the main reasons it was dropped so quickly was the tyre manufacturer issues, the suppliers weren't willing to cater to the very specific requests of Tyrell.
simdel1
06-09-2003, 04:43 PM
Originally posted by freakray
Tamiya makes the car in 2 different versions.
If I remember correctly, one of the main reasons it was dropped so quickly was the tyre manufacturer issues, the suppliers weren't willing to cater to the very specific requests of Tyrell.
exactly what i heard too. i was watching some documentary about tyrell on tv about 6 months, maybe a year ago.
Tamiya makes the car in 2 different versions.
If I remember correctly, one of the main reasons it was dropped so quickly was the tyre manufacturer issues, the suppliers weren't willing to cater to the very specific requests of Tyrell.
exactly what i heard too. i was watching some documentary about tyrell on tv about 6 months, maybe a year ago.
chipanggo
06-10-2003, 01:53 AM
Great pics man. It would be a great help. I have both the 1/12 and 1/20 Tamiya kits of this car which I haven't started. :bigthumb:
crayzayjay
06-10-2003, 07:40 AM
cool car... it always looked "wrong" to me but im glad it exists :smile:
Raging Bull
06-10-2003, 10:26 AM
Hey, check http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wilkins/Pics%20for%20R/ - theres some pics there. THey're quite big so careful 56kers.
crayzayjay
06-10-2003, 10:28 AM
Nice.
V. nice :smile:
V. nice :smile:
Veyron
06-11-2003, 08:49 AM
Thanks, huudo! Here's more:
http://www.f1m.com/modules/My_eGallery/gallery/Other_Images/Scans/Tyrrell_P34/p34-04.jpg
http://www.f1m.com/modules/My_eGallery/gallery/Other_Images/Scans/Tyrrell_P34/p34-04.jpg
Guido
06-12-2003, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by rcmaxx
did you get any pictures of the row of Mclarens? :smile:
Did I get a picture of the row of McLarens??
You know who you're talking to right... :bloated:
I took at least 4 to 5 pictures of EVERY McLaren in the "McLaren-Hall" shooting 7 rolls of 36 pics... :dogpile: :screwy:
did you get any pictures of the row of Mclarens? :smile:
Did I get a picture of the row of McLarens??
You know who you're talking to right... :bloated:
I took at least 4 to 5 pictures of EVERY McLaren in the "McLaren-Hall" shooting 7 rolls of 36 pics... :dogpile: :screwy:
Guido
06-12-2003, 10:08 AM
Tyrell dropped the 6-wheeler concept because Goodyear didn't see the advantages of it and was nont willing to invest in it - small quantities and tailor made. Although the concept showed convincing and promising results, we'll never know if it was really any good, since it was never developped properly. A real shame... I need to look up the exact results though :wink:
Guido
06-12-2003, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by chipanggo
Great pics man. It would be a great help. I have both the 1/12 and 1/20 Tamiya kits of this car which I haven't started. :bigthumb:
Sure thing, that's the purpose of those pages there. :wink:
Great pics man. It would be a great help. I have both the 1/12 and 1/20 Tamiya kits of this car which I haven't started. :bigthumb:
Sure thing, that's the purpose of those pages there. :wink:
ales
06-12-2003, 10:21 AM
I think it won a race or two...
Chain
06-24-2003, 12:39 AM
:bigthumb:
Good reference pics, huudo, veyron and raging bull.
As you can see in my sig, I have this model in stock. Will build it much later though. Thanks guys!
ales, yup this car won its debut race in the Swedish GP.
But eventually with the tyre issues, it only managed to clinch several 2nd places.
The potential was there but we'll never know I guess.
Some excerpts:
"The designer Derek Gardner, at the end of 1975, decided that reduction in drag, improved cornering power and increased braking grip were three major factors which required improvement over the previous years car. 4 smaller wheels at the front seemed a logical solution to all these problems.
Calculations proved that the lower frontal area provided by the smaller tyres would reduce the drag and would be equivalent to a power gain between 10 - 15 bhp. In practice the rear tyres were unchanged and still provided the same frontal area. Goodyear were asked to produce the tyre in secret for Tyrrell and the small brake calipers which fitted inside the wheels were developed from those used on the Mini Cooper.
The car proved successful in testing, but the testing provided a few problems which needed to be overcome before the car was fit for it's first race. Consequently it missed the first two races but took part in the Swedish GP and won first time out at the hands of Jody Scheckter.
After that initial success the car earned 9 second places and 9 other places during the rest of the season. Scheckter and Depailler took third and fourth places in the drivers championship that year behind James Hunt and Niki Lauda.
The main reason the car's performance was not able to be maintained throughout the whole season was due to the lack of development which Goodyear were able to offer the team. The information received by Goodyear from the other teams taking part that year, enabled them to develop the 20 inch tyres much quicker than the 16 inch ones used exclusively on the front end of the Tyrrell. The early advantage enjoyed by Tyrrell was gradually eroded away as the other teams took advantage of the ever more effective tyres on offer to them from Goodyear.
The car will always be remembered as an ingenious and brilliant peace of automotive design."
From Mike's modeling website. If you got the kit, you can read tamiya's manual on it too.
http://www.egan37.fsnet.co.uk/
Good reference pics, huudo, veyron and raging bull.
As you can see in my sig, I have this model in stock. Will build it much later though. Thanks guys!
ales, yup this car won its debut race in the Swedish GP.
But eventually with the tyre issues, it only managed to clinch several 2nd places.
The potential was there but we'll never know I guess.
Some excerpts:
"The designer Derek Gardner, at the end of 1975, decided that reduction in drag, improved cornering power and increased braking grip were three major factors which required improvement over the previous years car. 4 smaller wheels at the front seemed a logical solution to all these problems.
Calculations proved that the lower frontal area provided by the smaller tyres would reduce the drag and would be equivalent to a power gain between 10 - 15 bhp. In practice the rear tyres were unchanged and still provided the same frontal area. Goodyear were asked to produce the tyre in secret for Tyrrell and the small brake calipers which fitted inside the wheels were developed from those used on the Mini Cooper.
The car proved successful in testing, but the testing provided a few problems which needed to be overcome before the car was fit for it's first race. Consequently it missed the first two races but took part in the Swedish GP and won first time out at the hands of Jody Scheckter.
After that initial success the car earned 9 second places and 9 other places during the rest of the season. Scheckter and Depailler took third and fourth places in the drivers championship that year behind James Hunt and Niki Lauda.
The main reason the car's performance was not able to be maintained throughout the whole season was due to the lack of development which Goodyear were able to offer the team. The information received by Goodyear from the other teams taking part that year, enabled them to develop the 20 inch tyres much quicker than the 16 inch ones used exclusively on the front end of the Tyrrell. The early advantage enjoyed by Tyrrell was gradually eroded away as the other teams took advantage of the ever more effective tyres on offer to them from Goodyear.
The car will always be remembered as an ingenious and brilliant peace of automotive design."
From Mike's modeling website. If you got the kit, you can read tamiya's manual on it too.
http://www.egan37.fsnet.co.uk/
Guido
06-24-2003, 03:37 AM
Thanks for putting the record staight Chain! You are most welcome. When I come across race cars for which there, to my knowlegde, a kit has been made, I'll always try to do a walk-around if possible and post that on my site for you guys reference :icesangel
There's more to come: a "Gold Leaf Lotus" is in the works...
There's more to come: a "Gold Leaf Lotus" is in the works...
Chain
06-24-2003, 05:15 AM
Originally posted by huudo
Thanks for putting the record staight Chain! You are most welcome. When I come across race cars for which there, to my knowlegde, a kit has been made, I'll always try to do a walk-around if possible and post that on my site for you guys reference :icesangel
There's more to come: a "Gold Leaf Lotus" is in the works...
nps huudo!
Man, U r 1 lucky guy. U get to take pics of the real car.
Here in Singapore, we will never get to see an F1 live ever.
Thanks to people like U :wink:
Eh, how about an FW24 hehe
Thanks for putting the record staight Chain! You are most welcome. When I come across race cars for which there, to my knowlegde, a kit has been made, I'll always try to do a walk-around if possible and post that on my site for you guys reference :icesangel
There's more to come: a "Gold Leaf Lotus" is in the works...
nps huudo!
Man, U r 1 lucky guy. U get to take pics of the real car.
Here in Singapore, we will never get to see an F1 live ever.
Thanks to people like U :wink:
Eh, how about an FW24 hehe
Chain
06-24-2003, 10:01 AM
More about elfy can be found here :
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~xi3s-oosk/f1museum/gallery/p03f10.htm
There, should be more than sufficient reference pictures for the would-be builders of this kit :biggrin:
http://www.asahi-net.or.jp/~xi3s-oosk/f1museum/gallery/p03f10.htm
There, should be more than sufficient reference pictures for the would-be builders of this kit :biggrin:
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