power windows in 4th gen hb
streetdreams420
06-08-2003, 11:47 AM
does anyone know if I can use old integra power windows in a civic also can someone help me with taking out the actual unit in the door,having major problems getting it out
ci5ic
06-08-2003, 03:18 PM
I don't know about a teg unit, but I know that you can use the PW setup from a sedan... 91EF3ZC (I think) has done it, and alot of us are waiting for a how-to or some information from him on this mod.
*hint* *hint*
*hint* *hint*
DarkImportGrey
06-08-2003, 05:26 PM
or buy a 4g4d LX or EX and be cool like us! hehe :smile: power everything baby!
Setanta
06-08-2003, 07:19 PM
Didn't any hatches come out with PS in the US? Our 4Gs came out with it standard - I might be able to surce the parts for people if you let me know what you need - only problem would be the switches as our cars are RHD
Cheers
Cheers
XxLuckyLisaxX
08-09-2003, 02:05 AM
this thread is a little old not too bad, but i just wanted to tell dude that you can use integra power windows, and to get it out, well im assuming you unbolted the two bolts holding the glass to the metal unit thing, then you undue the 4 bolts that kind of form a square towards the left side, then there is one more bolt it is more directly in the center feel inside for one more arm of the metal unit still bolted to the door and that is the one. to get the unit out you have to finangle it out of the bottom hole, the fat end first. Once it is out, i drilled out the center bolt on the metal unit, i couldnt figure out how else to get it apart, because you have to use the bottom teeth and motor unit off the power window assembly of the teg and put it on your civic one, now you have to find a correct size bolt because you drilled out the other, if its not right it will not work (the pw) the bolt has to be right not loose, and i used 4 washers in between the teg teeth and the civics teeth because it leans in and causes the power windows to not work when it gets to the end of both sides of the teeth, now i have not finished this mod, i know it works but man is it a bitch oh and also i hope you have access to all the wires because good lord are there a shit load to use my boyfriend did most of that part i just braided the wires, also before you put the window on your new assembled civic/teg metal unit or even before you put it back in the door you should have all of your wiring done and have it working!!!!!!! very very important, but thats all i can think of, hope dude see this............
91EF3ZC
08-09-2003, 08:12 AM
i will post some info tonight after work,
Mike
Mike
ci5ic
08-09-2003, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by 91EF3ZC
i will post some info tonight after work,
Mike
That's what you always say :tongue:
Thanks for the little write-up lisa... I'm so down to do this mod...
i will post some info tonight after work,
Mike
That's what you always say :tongue:
Thanks for the little write-up lisa... I'm so down to do this mod...
XxLuckyLisaxX
08-09-2003, 03:11 PM
im so bad at explaining things sounds like a bunch of jibberish, mike (91ef3zc)what did u use to replace the bolt in the middle, did u just hop your ass down to orchard and find one that fit right, i went through my bolt bucket and none if them fit good enough
GTA
08-09-2003, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by Setanta
Didn't any hatches come out with PS in the US? Our 4Gs came out with it standard - I might be able to surce the parts for people if you let me know what you need - only problem would be the switches as our cars are RHD
Cheers
no hatches came with em in teh us. i wouldnt mind a oem edm set (LHD) or even JDM (RHD) if i had to
Didn't any hatches come out with PS in the US? Our 4Gs came out with it standard - I might be able to surce the parts for people if you let me know what you need - only problem would be the switches as our cars are RHD
Cheers
no hatches came with em in teh us. i wouldnt mind a oem edm set (LHD) or even JDM (RHD) if i had to
cusky ss
08-09-2003, 05:47 PM
i dont know if this helps at all but i have a power window set from honda that i installed in my crx, so its all oem, and i could fax someone the instructions so they could be posted if you want
91EF3ZC
08-10-2003, 06:28 PM
OKAY,
here you go, I know you have been waiting for this. I don't have pics but I will try to explaine the best I possibly can.
Items I used:
power windows
4 door lx front door window units
two bosch relays
Viper window module 530-T
generic window/lock switches
custom made plugs for the door panel
lots of wiring
The first thing you want to do after you have everything you need is remove your door panel. I will assume you all know how to do this.
If you have a 90-91 you will need to remove the seat belt assy. as well.
Remove the vaper barrier and save it, try to take it off in one piece.
It is important to re-install it later. Once you have all the components off the door and out of your way, you want to remove the glass from the manual unit in the door. Lower the window with the window crank until you see the two 10mm bolts holding holding the glass. Remove the bolts while someone holds the glass in place, you don't want it to fall in and break, we need to use it again. once the bolts are removed and the glass is free of the track, you will remove the glass through the top of the door. be very carefull NOT to tweak the glass as you try to remove it or it will break. Now that the glass is removed we want to remove the manual unit from the door. there is 6 10mm bolts holding it in place.
first crank the unit with the window crank to make it as flat as possible.
Then remove all the 10mm bolts and bring the unit out through the bottom of the door. The power unit will go in this spot when it is re-installed. Two of the bolts will end up in a different set of holes. you will see this during the install of the power units.
Now we need to compare the two units
The first thing I did was compare the window units side by side.
If you do this you will see they are the same except for the sliders.
the 4D sliders are shorter than the hatch sliders. You will need to swap your hatch sliders onto the power 4D unit.
The ends of the sliders are bent or crimped, to prevent them from comming off. Straighten the ends and remove them. do the same on both and put the longer sliders on the power units. re-grease as needed. you want to bend the ends of the sliders after you get them on as well. The Viper 530-T window module is important for safty. It will give you thermal shut down in case a hand of finger gets caught in the window as it closes. you also get benefits like, auto up/down one touch.
it can be triggered with an alarm as well.
I mounted the switches in the center console behind the shifter with a door lock switch as well. The switches all look the same, they are just black rocker switches. The hole in the door was plugged with a piece I had made at a machine shop. I used the plastic ring from the factory window crank, and had a metal disc made with a stud on the back of it. I put the disc on the ring and with the same size washer on the back, used an 8mm nut on the stud and secured it to the door panel. The discs were powder coated black to match.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/755421doorcap(1).JPG
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/439983doorcap(2).JPG
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/866778switches(1).JPG
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/974297switches(2).JPG
here you go, I know you have been waiting for this. I don't have pics but I will try to explaine the best I possibly can.
Items I used:
power windows
4 door lx front door window units
two bosch relays
Viper window module 530-T
generic window/lock switches
custom made plugs for the door panel
lots of wiring
The first thing you want to do after you have everything you need is remove your door panel. I will assume you all know how to do this.
If you have a 90-91 you will need to remove the seat belt assy. as well.
Remove the vaper barrier and save it, try to take it off in one piece.
It is important to re-install it later. Once you have all the components off the door and out of your way, you want to remove the glass from the manual unit in the door. Lower the window with the window crank until you see the two 10mm bolts holding holding the glass. Remove the bolts while someone holds the glass in place, you don't want it to fall in and break, we need to use it again. once the bolts are removed and the glass is free of the track, you will remove the glass through the top of the door. be very carefull NOT to tweak the glass as you try to remove it or it will break. Now that the glass is removed we want to remove the manual unit from the door. there is 6 10mm bolts holding it in place.
first crank the unit with the window crank to make it as flat as possible.
Then remove all the 10mm bolts and bring the unit out through the bottom of the door. The power unit will go in this spot when it is re-installed. Two of the bolts will end up in a different set of holes. you will see this during the install of the power units.
Now we need to compare the two units
The first thing I did was compare the window units side by side.
If you do this you will see they are the same except for the sliders.
the 4D sliders are shorter than the hatch sliders. You will need to swap your hatch sliders onto the power 4D unit.
The ends of the sliders are bent or crimped, to prevent them from comming off. Straighten the ends and remove them. do the same on both and put the longer sliders on the power units. re-grease as needed. you want to bend the ends of the sliders after you get them on as well. The Viper 530-T window module is important for safty. It will give you thermal shut down in case a hand of finger gets caught in the window as it closes. you also get benefits like, auto up/down one touch.
it can be triggered with an alarm as well.
I mounted the switches in the center console behind the shifter with a door lock switch as well. The switches all look the same, they are just black rocker switches. The hole in the door was plugged with a piece I had made at a machine shop. I used the plastic ring from the factory window crank, and had a metal disc made with a stud on the back of it. I put the disc on the ring and with the same size washer on the back, used an 8mm nut on the stud and secured it to the door panel. The discs were powder coated black to match.
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/755421doorcap(1).JPG
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/439983doorcap(2).JPG
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/866778switches(1).JPG
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/974297switches(2).JPG
91EF3ZC
08-10-2003, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by XxLuckyLisaxX
im so bad at explaining things sounds like a bunch of jibberish, mike (91ef3zc)what did u use to replace the bolt in the middle, did u just hop your ass down to orchard and find one that fit right, i went through my bolt bucket and none if them fit good enough
not sure what bolt you are referring to.
im so bad at explaining things sounds like a bunch of jibberish, mike (91ef3zc)what did u use to replace the bolt in the middle, did u just hop your ass down to orchard and find one that fit right, i went through my bolt bucket and none if them fit good enough
not sure what bolt you are referring to.
crxlvr
08-10-2003, 06:41 PM
cool write up man, imma prolly try this one of these years.
Melt
08-10-2003, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by DarkImportGrey
or buy a 4g4d LX or EX and be cool like us! hehe :smile: power everything baby!
damn straight
or buy a 4g4d LX or EX and be cool like us! hehe :smile: power everything baby!
damn straight
cusky ss
08-10-2003, 07:33 PM
you can also get a plug from honda that matches the interior thats made for it, and it says honda on it
91EF3ZC
08-10-2003, 08:03 PM
Originally posted by cusky ss
you can also get a plug from honda that matches the interior thats made for it, and it says honda on it
do you have a pic of it, or the part number?
you can also get a plug from honda that matches the interior thats made for it, and it says honda on it
do you have a pic of it, or the part number?
91EF3ZC
08-11-2003, 07:23 AM
*BUMP*
ci5ic
08-11-2003, 11:24 AM
Great write-up... thanks for that Mike.
Those plugs you made look really good...
So that Viper 530 or whatever, is that just a stand-alone power window controller?
Those plugs you made look really good...
So that Viper 530 or whatever, is that just a stand-alone power window controller?
Custom Rex
08-11-2003, 11:45 AM
very nice....
GTA
08-11-2003, 01:47 PM
the switch location is where i always wanted some power window switches if i ever do it..
91EF3ZC
08-11-2003, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by ci5ic
Great write-up... thanks for that Mike.
Those plugs you made look really good...
So that Viper 530 or whatever, is that just a stand-alone power window controller?
Thanks,
The 530-T is a stand alone, and you can also have your alarm trigger it too. The best feature is the auto up/down with one touch. AWESOME!
Great write-up... thanks for that Mike.
Those plugs you made look really good...
So that Viper 530 or whatever, is that just a stand-alone power window controller?
Thanks,
The 530-T is a stand alone, and you can also have your alarm trigger it too. The best feature is the auto up/down with one touch. AWESOME!
ci5ic
08-11-2003, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by 91EF3ZC
Thanks,
The 530-T is a stand alone, and you can also have your alarm trigger it too. The best feature is the auto up/down with one touch. AWESOME!
What's the price tag on that module?
Sounds great... Is it possible to somehow program it to stop the windows half-way down? Whenever I'm cruising around, I always drop my windows half-way, and it'd be cool, if instead of having it do an auto up/down to have it go halfway down instead... I would still want to be able to roll the windows all the way down though...
Thanks,
The 530-T is a stand alone, and you can also have your alarm trigger it too. The best feature is the auto up/down with one touch. AWESOME!
What's the price tag on that module?
Sounds great... Is it possible to somehow program it to stop the windows half-way down? Whenever I'm cruising around, I always drop my windows half-way, and it'd be cool, if instead of having it do an auto up/down to have it go halfway down instead... I would still want to be able to roll the windows all the way down though...
91EF3ZC
08-11-2003, 06:35 PM
Originally posted by ci5ic
What's the price tag on that module?
Sounds great... Is it possible to somehow program it to stop the windows half-way down? Whenever I'm cruising around, I always drop my windows half-way, and it'd be cool, if instead of having it do an auto up/down to have it go halfway down instead... I would still want to be able to roll the windows all the way down though...
The module costs about $35-$40, if you install it your windows will work as normal it just adds the auto feature to it.you can have your windows open at any level you want.
What's the price tag on that module?
Sounds great... Is it possible to somehow program it to stop the windows half-way down? Whenever I'm cruising around, I always drop my windows half-way, and it'd be cool, if instead of having it do an auto up/down to have it go halfway down instead... I would still want to be able to roll the windows all the way down though...
The module costs about $35-$40, if you install it your windows will work as normal it just adds the auto feature to it.you can have your windows open at any level you want.
ci5ic
08-11-2003, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by 91EF3ZC
The module costs about $35-$40, if you install it your windows will work as normal it just adds the auto feature to it.you can have your windows open at any level you want.
Sweet. Thanks for answering all my questions!
The module costs about $35-$40, if you install it your windows will work as normal it just adds the auto feature to it.you can have your windows open at any level you want.
Sweet. Thanks for answering all my questions!
91EF3ZC
08-11-2003, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by ci5ic
Sweet. Thanks for answering all my questions!
No prob, love to share the info! LOL
Sweet. Thanks for answering all my questions!
No prob, love to share the info! LOL
cusky ss
08-11-2003, 08:30 PM
91ef......everytime i try to post pics it doesnt work, i could take a pic and e-mail to you if thats ok, then you couyld post it
91EF3ZC
08-11-2003, 09:45 PM
Originally posted by cusky ss
91ef......everytime i try to post pics it doesnt work, i could take a pic and e-mail to you if thats ok, then you couyld post it
Okay, [email protected]
91ef......everytime i try to post pics it doesnt work, i could take a pic and e-mail to you if thats ok, then you couyld post it
Okay, [email protected]
cusky ss
08-11-2003, 10:02 PM
ok ijust figured out how i think, im going outside to take a pic right now, if it doesnt work then ill e-mail it to youand if it turns out crappy due to the darkness then ill do it tomorrow
91EF3ZC
08-11-2003, 10:38 PM
Here is the door cap/plug from Canada, Looks very cool,
thank you for the pic Craig (cusky ss).
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/543162doorplugfaraway.jpg
thank you for the pic Craig (cusky ss).
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/543162doorplugfaraway.jpg
cusky ss
08-11-2003, 10:51 PM
anything to help, and thanks for posting for me, one day ill figure it out
91EF3ZC
08-12-2003, 12:15 AM
Originally posted by cusky ss
anything to help, and thanks for posting for me, one day ill figure it out
No problem bro any time!
anything to help, and thanks for posting for me, one day ill figure it out
No problem bro any time!
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