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BRM P153, Spa 1970, Pedro Rodriguez, 1/12th


john-w
05-06-2013, 12:20 PM
Hi all,

today I got my BRM P153 from Classic Model Museum in scale 1/12th, winner Spa 1970
with Pedro Rodriguez on the wheel. After a first look I have found some mistakes which I will
show during the WIP.

Here is a photo with all parts.

http://www.john-w.de/models/forum/ph/p153_01.jpg
John-w

sky1911
05-06-2013, 05:29 PM
Hi John,

how would you rate this kit at first glance? I have had contact with a seller of these kits before regarding other 1/12 models - in particular a 917KH. From what I know they've also done a 917LH. However the parts of those kits seemed rather chunky to me and the detail on the rest was... well, I'd say leaving something to be desired, especially since these kits came at a relatively steep price tag of around $300-350. But then they also had white metal parts and not just resin + photoetch. But the models resulting from these kits looking pretty good.

john-w
05-08-2013, 04:54 AM
Hi all,

now I will start with the wheels, on the BRM prototype CMM used the Good Year
tyres from the Tyrrell, but this is not correct and so CMM modified the Ferrari 312B rims,
basic for the tyres are the Ferrari 312B Firestones now.

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_02_zps0428e7d7.jpg


http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_05_zpsb2ad10ef.jpg

Now I am looking for yellow “DUNLOP RACING” decals or tyre templates in 1/12?

Can anybody help me to find a helmet from Pedro Rodriguez or decals?

John-w

sjelic
05-08-2013, 06:06 AM
Hi John, interesting model, I look forward to what you can do with it, since it doesn't look "to good".
As for decals
http://shop.spotmodel.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=30&products_id=1172&osCsid=lna081shjdl544grur2isqru16
Good luck ;-)

john-w
05-12-2013, 01:52 PM
Hi all,

Here is the next update. For mounting the front spoilers on the front nose I used a 1mm brass rod.
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_06_zpsd8c9aa9b.jpg

The end plates on the rear wing are fixed with needles (looks like rivets). The rear wing on Rodriguez’s
car in Spa has only one element and Oliver’s 2 elements.
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_07_zps02cea954.jpg

Now I think about to built the car fast and easy or I will separate the the front nose and cowling
from the chassis to show the cockpit details, this will be a lot of more work.
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_08_zps5220b95a.jpg

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_09_zpsfc9e1ef6.jpg

John-w

john-w
05-20-2013, 05:51 AM
Hello,

here is the next update, the end plates are replaced the originals are to buckled
and a mounting for the wing suspension is attached.

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_10_zps86427e53.jpg

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_11_zps03bbb744.jpg

The rear wing is airbrushed and the decals are placed now. The decals are printed on a white
decal film and so you must cut out the decals very careful to get no white border.

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_12_zpsed49d4fb.jpg

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_13_zpsb94619bf.jpg

“DUNLOP RACING” decals are available now by Indycals
http://www.indycals.net/decals/tires/duns.html

John-w

Maysula
05-21-2013, 12:52 AM
Looks very good so far! What color did you use for the gold ?
Thomas

flashman1957
05-22-2013, 04:18 PM
“DUNLOP RACING” decals are available now by Indycals
http://www.indycals.net/decals/tires/duns.html


Interesting, that link works, but otherwise I couldn't find any mention of those decals on the Indycals site. Special order, or just too new for them to be listed on the "Tires" or "Newest releases" pages yet?

Cameron

john-w
05-22-2013, 05:57 PM
Interesting, that link works, but otherwise I couldn't find any mention of those decals on the Indycals site. Special order, or just too new for them to be listed on the "Tires" or "Newest releases" pages yet?

Cameron
I think it is to new.


Hello,

in a other forum I got this information about the rear wing:

"the flag is printed wrong - the diagonal reds are in the wrong place on the white space"
this is correct, but I have seen on the original BRM's there are no diagonal reds!!!!, does anybody know why?

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_14_zps88f65bae.jpg

The next step will be the front suspension

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_15_zpsbf3bcd9d.jpg

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_16_zps9dfe537a.jpg

John-w

john-w
05-25-2013, 12:18 PM
Here is the next update.

I have built the front suspension with 2 and 1,5mm brass rods
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_17_zps2e8a807a.jpg

The front upright I have "loan" from the Tyrrell, it look a little bit better than the resin lump.
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_18_zpsa721030e.jpg

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_19_zpsd9e6d7d0.jpg

John-w

freakray
05-25-2013, 02:44 PM
this is correct, but I have seen on the original BRM's there are no diagonal reds!!!!, does anybody know why?


An interesting question since the flag without the diagonal reds would be the Union Jack with Ireland excluded. One can only speculate there was a political reasoning behind it.

LeSunTzu
05-27-2013, 05:17 AM
Are you sure the Union Jack was incomplete ? From the pics of this page, it was normal on Rodriguez's jacket and it seems fine too on the wing: http://carlosghys.be/html/memorabilia_pedro_1.html

Bigger picture: http://fast-mag.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/73-1.jpg

sky1911
05-27-2013, 12:58 PM
If you look closely at the pic you have posted, you will see, that the red cross (on top of the white) bottom left to top right is there, however, the top left to bottom right part of the cross is left white only. And this is the same for both the wing and the decal on the side. So I'd say, there is definitely something going on there ;)

LeSunTzu
05-27-2013, 02:40 PM
You are right that this part of the cross cannot be seen on the picture. I could not tell if this is the picture or the flag. Here is a close-up picture, but the caption does not mention the race: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pedro-Rodriguez-BRM-P153-F1-Season-1970-Photograph-1-/380645652499?pt=UK_Sports_Memorabilia_ET&hash=item58a03fb813

john-w
05-29-2013, 08:53 AM
Hello,

I have found some photos from the French and Belgian GP with very fine red stripes on the Union Jack, thanks for all your help.

Here is the next update, all parts for the front suspension some are from the Tyrrell and some
made with brass rods. On the right side of the photo you can see the original CMM parts.
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_20_zps8d0af385.jpg

Test before painting of all suspension parts.
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_21_zpsdeffee6c.jpg

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_22_zps1b8c1b28.jpg

Thanks to Indycals for the fast delivery of the "DUNLOP RACING" decals.
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_23_zps93a6ecc5.jpg

John-w

ianc911
05-29-2013, 02:30 PM
Looking good!

ianc

john-w
06-01-2013, 07:17 AM
Hello,

next step will be the rear suspension. The kit includes some wrong parts
like the drive shafts and brake disks and the quality of the other parts is
not the best, so I must build some parts with brass rods.

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_24_zpsef587986.jpg



http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_25_zpsf12d173a.jpg

John-w

john-w
06-02-2013, 01:22 PM
Here is the next update, the rear uprights are from an old Tyrrell, into the upright is glued a brass tube
to fix the brake disk and the drive shaft.

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_26_zpsbd2e2d5e.jpg

A mounting for the brake caliper is also glued on the upright.
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_27_zps6a141da7.jpg

John-w

john-w
06-04-2013, 02:20 PM
Hello,

here are 2 photos from the rear suspension made with 1,5mm brass rod.

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_29_zpsa3c25a64.jpg

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_30_zps86217cdc.jpg


John-w

john-w
06-09-2013, 03:56 PM
Hello,

today I have built the subframe (brass) fore the engine.

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_31_zpsf7696a93.jpg

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_32_zps5f2fda3d.jpg

Decals are replaced on the wing now.
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_33_zpsb50d6ecf.jpg

John-w

john-w
06-10-2013, 12:07 PM
Hello,

some more progress, the subframes for the engine are finished

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_34_zpse75509c3.jpg

All soldering work during the last week
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_35_zpse579a058.jpg

John-w

john-w
06-22-2013, 03:56 PM
Hello,

the exhaustsystem is replaced by copper wire and brass tube
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_39_zps33bb718a.jpg
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_38_zps2c5246c9.jpg

Some parts (battery, distributor and transistorbox) are copied from the Ferrari 312B.
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_40_zpsf8645d6e.jpg

The air funnels are replaced by cable end sleeves.
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_41_zpsf9f6f40a.jpg

John-w

john-w
06-27-2013, 02:18 PM
Hi all,

CMM offers a BRM P160B (Winner Monaco 1972) now, here is the item number from ebay

290937468123


John-w

john-w
06-29-2013, 09:21 AM
Hello,

here is a little progress.

Front suspension is airbrushed with Alclad chrome now.

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_42_zpsebdba642.jpg

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_43_zps43cf97a3.jpg

Painted subframes and exhaustsystem.
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_44_zps82f06c33.jpg

John-w

john-w
07-04-2013, 02:26 PM
Hello,

the decals are placed now, the black and red stripes are airbrushed.

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_45_zps186dd687.jpg
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_46_zpsa1752ae0.jpg
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_47_zpsf0a8c41e.jpg

John-w

john-w
07-07-2013, 06:44 AM
Hello,

here is the next update, the front suspension is mounted (steering is moveable)
and a service cover is engraved in to cockpit.

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_49_zpse0c6b1f0.jpg

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_50_zps96244cb5.jpg

Frame for the engine is mounted.
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_51_zpsdf671ffa.jpg

If this model will be ready someday, so it is really a big one.
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_52_zps57a7e730.jpg

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_53_zps356eaf04.jpg

John-w

john-w
07-14-2013, 12:05 PM
Hello,

here is a little progress.
The rollbar is made with plastic tube and brass wire.

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_56_zpse59f4fc4.jpg

Rear suspension with oil cooler, oil tank, battery and transiterbox.
http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_57_zpse8a60ef3.jpg

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_58_zpsbb9ad88b.jpg

John-w

Greg23
07-14-2013, 08:27 PM
Not too fond of the engine detail (ha, ha) but this is looking good - and I don't even particularly like this car. Will be a nice addition to the 'museum'.

john-w
07-17-2013, 02:45 PM
Hi all,

the BRM P153 is nearly finished, here some photos.

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_60_zpsfd1700ff.jpg

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_61_zpsc2f7cec1.jpg

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_62_zps5aa4e9ad.jpg

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_63_zps31d6e3a1.jpg

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_64_zps8c223f9d.jpg

http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r533/john-w/P153/p153_65_zps65eb9112.jpg

I know the BRM has still mistakes, but I can not make more with this CMM kit.
Thanks for the interest in this W.I.P.

John-w

Greg23
07-19-2013, 09:42 AM
Shaped up quite nicely.

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