A change in Scale? - discussion & poll
JeremyJon
04-30-2013, 03:50 PM
Interesting discussion idea from another thread, is how the past "standards" of scale modeling has changed, and wider variety of those being preferred
I'm curious, as some of you might be also, what scale is preferred and why?
Some scales are based on availability, like F1 cars, in 1:20, which persists to the this day, and become the accepted norm, though not necessarily preferred?
So, let us know:
What is your preference to build in?
Why
What do you actually own/have?
To kick it off:
My preference is 1:24/25
Why? Probably because it was the widely accepted normal, and when I was a kid model kits could be found everywhere, even some grocery stores in the toys section, and almost entirely in that scale
Secondly, was the price, back then & today being most reasonable
What I have is almost entirely 1:24/25 scale, and one un-built 1:12 F40
:cool:
I'm curious, as some of you might be also, what scale is preferred and why?
Some scales are based on availability, like F1 cars, in 1:20, which persists to the this day, and become the accepted norm, though not necessarily preferred?
So, let us know:
What is your preference to build in?
Why
What do you actually own/have?
To kick it off:
My preference is 1:24/25
Why? Probably because it was the widely accepted normal, and when I was a kid model kits could be found everywhere, even some grocery stores in the toys section, and almost entirely in that scale
Secondly, was the price, back then & today being most reasonable
What I have is almost entirely 1:24/25 scale, and one un-built 1:12 F40
:cool:
BVC500
04-30-2013, 04:45 PM
I prefer 1/24. But, do away with 1/25. I dislike having models, such as my ZR-1 look smaller next to other models.
JeremyJon
04-30-2013, 04:58 PM
I prefer 1/24. But, do away with 1/25. I dislike having models, such as my ZR-1 look smaller next to other models.
true, that does suck
i'm interested to see how many people prefer 1:12 scale, it seems more popular than in the past, but I could be wrong?
true, that does suck
i'm interested to see how many people prefer 1:12 scale, it seems more popular than in the past, but I could be wrong?
MerlinPro
04-30-2013, 05:31 PM
There are some great cars in 1/12:
Doyusha LP 500s
934 / 935
GT-40 MK II
240 Z
The Lancia Stratos
-and I'm sure several more I forgot!
The Vector would fit right in.
Doyusha LP 500s
934 / 935
GT-40 MK II
240 Z
The Lancia Stratos
-and I'm sure several more I forgot!
The Vector would fit right in.
eyckles
04-30-2013, 05:45 PM
What!! No 1/20th scale? I prefer 1/20 for F1 models, but build other models like Lemans, GT, Rally, DTM in 1/24 scale. I also build some 1/25th scale models, but there's no big difference to me.
Best regards,
Lesley
Best regards,
Lesley
JeremyJon
04-30-2013, 05:54 PM
What!! No 1/20th scale? I prefer 1/20 for F1 models, but build other models like Lemans, GT, Rally, DTM in 1/24 scale. I also build some 1/25th scale models, but there's no big difference to me.
Best regards,
Lesley
I left it out Lesley, only because it really pertains to F1 cars in particular really
There is a good thread here (somewhere, I can't recall the title?) which tells how the whole 1/20 scale came about, and how that became a standard for F1 car model kits, due to a manufacturer
I can understand those that would like to have all the same scale for their models in a display cabinet though
Best regards,
Lesley
I left it out Lesley, only because it really pertains to F1 cars in particular really
There is a good thread here (somewhere, I can't recall the title?) which tells how the whole 1/20 scale came about, and how that became a standard for F1 car model kits, due to a manufacturer
I can understand those that would like to have all the same scale for their models in a display cabinet though
eyckles
04-30-2013, 05:59 PM
I left it out Lesley, only because it really pertains to F1 cars in particular really
There is a good thread here (somewhere, I can't recall the title?) which tells how the whole 1/20 scale came about, and how that became a standard for F1 car model kits, due to a manufacturer
I can understand those that would like to have all the same scale for their models in a display cabinet though
Not a problem, but there are also some race cars released in 1/20th scale. Fujimi did some and i'm sure other manufacturers did also.
Tamiya set the standard for F1 models and i support it completely. There is more room for detail, than 1/24th scale F1 models.
I also understand that some prefer to make there models in the same scale. I habe had this discussion many times.
Best regards,
Lesley
There is a good thread here (somewhere, I can't recall the title?) which tells how the whole 1/20 scale came about, and how that became a standard for F1 car model kits, due to a manufacturer
I can understand those that would like to have all the same scale for their models in a display cabinet though
Not a problem, but there are also some race cars released in 1/20th scale. Fujimi did some and i'm sure other manufacturers did also.
Tamiya set the standard for F1 models and i support it completely. There is more room for detail, than 1/24th scale F1 models.
I also understand that some prefer to make there models in the same scale. I habe had this discussion many times.
Best regards,
Lesley
rallymaster
04-30-2013, 08:00 PM
I prefer 1/24 whereas I started years ago with 1/43.
1/12 kits are way too expensive, you can build 10 1/24 models with the price of one recently released 1/12 Enzo...
Moreover if you are not a F1 fan 1/12 scale only offers few cars to build.
1/12 kits are way too expensive, you can build 10 1/24 models with the price of one recently released 1/12 Enzo...
Moreover if you are not a F1 fan 1/12 scale only offers few cars to build.
corvettekid_7684
04-30-2013, 08:54 PM
I've gotten into building the 1/12 Countach models & I like the level of detail offered. I find that I simply enjoy working in the larger scale a bit more. I agree that the expense is a pain & they are a bit more time consuming, but the finished model to me has a lot of presence. They do take up a lot of shelf space too though.
lovegt40
05-01-2013, 04:05 AM
I started modelling at 5, following my dad.My passion was (and is still at today) mostly over airplanes, so as break in my "real" models I started build up burago die casts of the 70s and 80s. Too nice models,no needing for glue and smelly paints (in 70s only humbroll from uk available...still marked as airfix paints here...what remindings;)) and inside all burago some incredible giant ultra hard to use decal sheets.My real passion.
All my interest is then around 1/24 scale models, turned later in plastic model kits.
Was tom tanner reminding all of us the history of the crazy 1:20 scale started with tamiya tyrrell with few space for battery bay inside.Also I have many formula 1 cars, including some hiros, but really..the unicity of this ugly scale totally locks me.
Think modern stuff is much more interesting in big scales (18 and 12) also cause the shape of the model is incredibly nicer than in smaller, as 43.I built too many of theme too, and is definitely too smal stuff, thats also why so many love scratchbuild something long 5 cmts.
All my interest is then around 1/24 scale models, turned later in plastic model kits.
Was tom tanner reminding all of us the history of the crazy 1:20 scale started with tamiya tyrrell with few space for battery bay inside.Also I have many formula 1 cars, including some hiros, but really..the unicity of this ugly scale totally locks me.
Think modern stuff is much more interesting in big scales (18 and 12) also cause the shape of the model is incredibly nicer than in smaller, as 43.I built too many of theme too, and is definitely too smal stuff, thats also why so many love scratchbuild something long 5 cmts.
gpz900ra7
05-01-2013, 04:39 AM
I prefer to build bikes so the scales are 1/12th and 1/6th, but I have got 1/24th, 1/20th and 1/12th scale car kits as well in my stash.
gpz900ra7.
gpz900ra7.
sam01contact
05-01-2013, 08:37 AM
I prefer 1/24...For bikes, I think 1/12 is great to build, see and appreciate detail.
I was ready to buy Tamiya's Red Bull F1 car, but since Revell announced their 1/24 version I am waiting to see if that scale "feels" better for me. No engine detail in those kits, so 1/20 may be an exaggeration.
I was ready to buy Tamiya's Red Bull F1 car, but since Revell announced their 1/24 version I am waiting to see if that scale "feels" better for me. No engine detail in those kits, so 1/20 may be an exaggeration.
leafs004
05-01-2013, 03:01 PM
Personally I like the 1/18 size. Unfortunately there's a tiny number of models available. What I like about that scale is they're big enough to nicely detail without a magnifying glass, and small enough that they don't eat up a huge amount of space like a 1/12. Added benefit is I could display diecasts and models next to each other without the obvious size differential.
Saying that, I've built many in 1/12, but also have a bunch of 1/20 and 1/24, then there's a few 1/16, 1/8 and 1/43. I've refused to buy any 1/32 even though there's a couple of interesting items. And you wonder why no two models in my display case appear to be the same size.
Saying that, I've built many in 1/12, but also have a bunch of 1/20 and 1/24, then there's a few 1/16, 1/8 and 1/43. I've refused to buy any 1/32 even though there's a couple of interesting items. And you wonder why no two models in my display case appear to be the same size.
nascar49
05-01-2013, 03:45 PM
1/24th 1/25th for me, maybe sometime in the future I will do some large scale builds
iceracer1
05-02-2013, 05:32 AM
1/24 or 1/25 for the cars, and 1/12 for bikes. Simply because of the availability and costs. Also for these scales there is more aftermarket stuff available.
The boxes are also less big so I can store more :D and once they are build the don't need much space to show them.
Kris.
The boxes are also less big so I can store more :D and once they are build the don't need much space to show them.
Kris.
MerlinPro
05-02-2013, 08:59 AM
In my rant about 1/12 subjects, I forgot the excellent Tamiya Lotus Sevens and Mini Cooper. And they are not any larger than some 1 /18 scale cars.
Not counting the F-1 cars, just street / super cars that a Vector would fit right in with.
Not counting the F-1 cars, just street / super cars that a Vector would fit right in with.
CrateCruncher
05-02-2013, 10:50 AM
I built 3 or 4 big scale cars when I first got back into the hobby because it felt a lot like I was restoring a real car. But I soon realized: 1) I didn't have enough space to display anymore, 2) They take forever to detail, 3) The boxes take up a lot of room.
I sold almost all of my big scale and now work in 1/24 mostly. The Fujimi Enthusiast, MFH, 1/12 Gunze bikes have enough detail and multimedia goodness to satisfy my high-detail inner nerd and they fit nicely in my hallway display cabinet.
I also build the odd 1/43rd F1 car by Tameo but those WCT series can make me a bit cross-eyed and now that I'm over 45, I need OptiVisor magnification which makes me look like a nerd on the outside too! After building a 1/43 car, a 1/24 car seems HUGE! Back in the old days if you wanted more detail you had to go to bigger scales. But thanks to CAD and multimedia like photoetch and low viscosity resin thats not really the case anymore. The "builders scale" in every genre tends to be 6" long x 4" high. So, 1/24 for cars, 1/20 for F1, 1/12 for bikes, 1/35 for armor, etc.
I sold almost all of my big scale and now work in 1/24 mostly. The Fujimi Enthusiast, MFH, 1/12 Gunze bikes have enough detail and multimedia goodness to satisfy my high-detail inner nerd and they fit nicely in my hallway display cabinet.
I also build the odd 1/43rd F1 car by Tameo but those WCT series can make me a bit cross-eyed and now that I'm over 45, I need OptiVisor magnification which makes me look like a nerd on the outside too! After building a 1/43 car, a 1/24 car seems HUGE! Back in the old days if you wanted more detail you had to go to bigger scales. But thanks to CAD and multimedia like photoetch and low viscosity resin thats not really the case anymore. The "builders scale" in every genre tends to be 6" long x 4" high. So, 1/24 for cars, 1/20 for F1, 1/12 for bikes, 1/35 for armor, etc.
mike@af
05-02-2013, 07:01 PM
I've built more 1/24's than 1/12, although I prefer 1/12 because I can add much more detail easier than I can in 1/24. Plus it's more visible without the use of a magnifying glass in 1/12 scale.
24hrs
05-02-2013, 08:51 PM
personally, i only build in 1:24. group c, dtm, rally, gt1, and some road cars. i only have 1 kit outside the scale which is a fujimi 959 in 1:16 scale. i bought it out of curiosity to see if it's as good or better that their 1:24 enthusiast series. i only plan to build the engine on that one. i think it will look great after detailing and i will display it as such. if i can get my hands on the other 1:16 enthusiast models, i'll do the same. engines only. :smooch:
1:24 has a lot of support from the aftermarket which i guess makes the scale the most popular/convenient. from etch sets to superdetailing kits, 1:24 takes the cake! :biggrin: . i have to agree also that displaying same-scale models is easier on the eyes.regardless of the scale.
1:24 has a lot of support from the aftermarket which i guess makes the scale the most popular/convenient. from etch sets to superdetailing kits, 1:24 takes the cake! :biggrin: . i have to agree also that displaying same-scale models is easier on the eyes.regardless of the scale.
corvettekid_7684
05-02-2013, 09:20 PM
I've built more 1/24's than 1/12, although I prefer 1/12 because I can add much more detail easier than I can in 1/24. Plus it's more visible without the use of a magnifying glass in 1/12 scale.
+1...I wouldn't want all my builds to be 1/12, but the extra special ones, yes! With that said, there is a 1/8 Miura that I'd like to build, but it might have much more detail than I have patience ;)
+1...I wouldn't want all my builds to be 1/12, but the extra special ones, yes! With that said, there is a 1/8 Miura that I'd like to build, but it might have much more detail than I have patience ;)
SmokeyR67
05-03-2013, 04:42 AM
I prefer 1/12th, but as has been mentioned there's not a lot of subjects in this scale, so 1/20 and 1/24 are the more usual kits in my pile.
irenearris1
05-03-2013, 09:59 AM
It checks good.http://htcf.info/5.jpg
vintagethunder
05-03-2013, 11:29 PM
I build primarily for subject matter. Scale is not that big of deal for me. I do them all.
JeremyJon
05-04-2013, 06:49 AM
some great feedback guys
the most significant issues seem price & availability, which of course makes sense for 1:24 being the largest percentage of industry standard, but it also shows how many people prefer - with given choice - larger than 1:24 also
one reason I haven't built in larger scale, is my OCD, perhaps the impulsive need to over-detail a larger scale model would literally kill me?! :D
the most significant issues seem price & availability, which of course makes sense for 1:24 being the largest percentage of industry standard, but it also shows how many people prefer - with given choice - larger than 1:24 also
one reason I haven't built in larger scale, is my OCD, perhaps the impulsive need to over-detail a larger scale model would literally kill me?! :D
avd
05-04-2013, 05:47 PM
I perfer 1/24-1/25 scale model. Because that what most they have for that size. I did have 1/25 for ZR-1 does look pretty small compare to 1/24. Plus its way more fun to work on and more parts to add too.
Some_Kid
05-06-2013, 03:11 PM
I really prefer 1/24. Small enough to be easy move and show case yet big enough to detail and have accurate moldings and lots of pieces.
I actually do not like 1/25 kits, that's the point where they start to look toy like and I hate that Revell makes some cars 1/24 and some 1/25. The only 1/25 car i have to have is the Dodge Viper because it's not made in any other scale except for the super expensive resin race version in 1/24.
I actually do not like 1/25 kits, that's the point where they start to look toy like and I hate that Revell makes some cars 1/24 and some 1/25. The only 1/25 car i have to have is the Dodge Viper because it's not made in any other scale except for the super expensive resin race version in 1/24.
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