Why do right-wing americans..
gigatron
06-07-2003, 11:57 PM
consider everything not right-wing american (patriotic as in .. pro-gov) as anti-american or 'to the left' or 'weak' or wrong, incorrect.
post your opinion. It's too bad criticism of the US gov is fueled as a labeled as 'antiamerican' on the innoscent bystander american, very often so by the 'super patriotic' pro-gov people as well!
I bet this post which criticises this phenomena is ALSO 'anti-american' :rolleyes:
post your opinion. It's too bad criticism of the US gov is fueled as a labeled as 'antiamerican' on the innoscent bystander american, very often so by the 'super patriotic' pro-gov people as well!
I bet this post which criticises this phenomena is ALSO 'anti-american' :rolleyes:
Ace$nyper
06-08-2003, 01:16 AM
i'm uber right wing i'll start my post that way and i know i'm guilty of what your talking about. Why I do say it is the goverment is to help us not rule us we run it it doesn't run us. eg We the people. For the people by the people. I don't want you taking away my rights voting guns cars anything cause you think its your best intrest what about me and the others who agree with me? Wanting to give so much power to a cogressman/women president governer and make them like a king thats not a republic or a democarcy (sp) its a monacrhy you may say but if your not doing any wrong what does it matter to remove some things like guns or put my name on a list for terrisots supspects cause i'm not going to shoot you or bomb you so don't try to accuse me of it by looking at me like one. I hope this can help explain it to you.
sarujin
06-08-2003, 01:18 AM
that can easily be rebutted by the fact why does every left wing person believe most governments are evil and out to rob everyone.
Why does every left winger belive all companies are there to rip you off, or steal peoples oil.
Its bullshit, not everyone belives that, just like not all right wing people believe what you said. Its just a difference of opinion.
But hey, you lefties wouldn't want us having a different opinion, it might be almost too much like free will.
sarujin
Why does every left winger belive all companies are there to rip you off, or steal peoples oil.
Its bullshit, not everyone belives that, just like not all right wing people believe what you said. Its just a difference of opinion.
But hey, you lefties wouldn't want us having a different opinion, it might be almost too much like free will.
sarujin
Cbass
06-08-2003, 06:49 AM
Well, the US is not a democracy, it never has been. The US is an oligarchy. The only choice voters have is the figureheads that take dictation from the wealthy.
taranaki
06-08-2003, 08:10 AM
Originally posted by Ace$nyper
i'm uber right wing i'll start my post that way and i know i'm guilty of what your talking about. Why I do say it is the goverment is to help us not rule us we run it it doesn't run us. eg We the people. For the people by the people. I don't want you taking away my rights voting guns cars anything cause you think its your best intrest what about me and the others who agree with me? Wanting to give so much power to a cogressman/women president governer and make them like a king thats not a republic or a democarcy (sp) its a monacrhy you may say but if your not doing any wrong what does it matter to remove some things like guns or put my name on a list for terrisots supspects cause i'm not going to shoot you or bomb you so don't try to accuse me of it by looking at me like one. I hope this can help explain it to you.
America is more of a monarchy than Britain at the moment.The British royal family are irrelevant,what King George Bush says,goes.
i'm uber right wing i'll start my post that way and i know i'm guilty of what your talking about. Why I do say it is the goverment is to help us not rule us we run it it doesn't run us. eg We the people. For the people by the people. I don't want you taking away my rights voting guns cars anything cause you think its your best intrest what about me and the others who agree with me? Wanting to give so much power to a cogressman/women president governer and make them like a king thats not a republic or a democarcy (sp) its a monacrhy you may say but if your not doing any wrong what does it matter to remove some things like guns or put my name on a list for terrisots supspects cause i'm not going to shoot you or bomb you so don't try to accuse me of it by looking at me like one. I hope this can help explain it to you.
America is more of a monarchy than Britain at the moment.The British royal family are irrelevant,what King George Bush says,goes.
gigatron
06-08-2003, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by sarujin
that can easily be rebutted by the fact why does every left wing person believe most governments are evil and out to rob everyone.
Why does every left winger belive all companies are there to rip you off, or steal peoples oil.
Its bullshit, not everyone belives that, just like not all right wing people believe what you said. Its just a difference of opinion.
But hey, you lefties wouldn't want us having a different opinion, it might be almost too much like free will.
sarujin
Lefties, well what are lefties then? The ones not following what the gov. wants as righties. Exactly that, anything not pro-gov is to the left. Not 'right' just right.
Why do they not follow what the gov wants? Why do right wings follow what the gov wants. Do you seriously think the gov. helps you? Perhaps its just a coincidence, as in the case of conservative parties cutting taxes it would benefit the rich quite well but disregarding social programs for the poor who can't afford the programs. In this case the gov is right to the rich but wrong to the poor. Right there you have inequality. Right, left, it doesn't sound like good, bad, sounds like a political spectrum and then it doesnt and then it just sounds like follow it or don't follow it like a dictatorship.
Seriously do you think that you make a difference by voting for one party or the other? The logos used for the two parties are even similar (coincidence? haha) and what one says the crowd follows. Perhaps they just publicise the same idea in a differnt fashion so it suits the democrats and it suits the republicans while in fact its all one leading goal.
Here's an example, why is bush listened to? Yes mr. president, of course mr. president, THE PRESIDENT IS HERE, blabla, the usual patriotism.. but what if he doesnt give a damn, second of all every sane LOGICAL person KNOWS that bush and his cronies lied like a flock of birds running into windows. Their lies were so noticable and its as if they didnt know what they said then made up something new, if you make a timeline of what was said and done and then follow it there is great inconsistency and lack of logic in their actions. In other simple words agendas and who cares once they get their paycheck.
that can easily be rebutted by the fact why does every left wing person believe most governments are evil and out to rob everyone.
Why does every left winger belive all companies are there to rip you off, or steal peoples oil.
Its bullshit, not everyone belives that, just like not all right wing people believe what you said. Its just a difference of opinion.
But hey, you lefties wouldn't want us having a different opinion, it might be almost too much like free will.
sarujin
Lefties, well what are lefties then? The ones not following what the gov. wants as righties. Exactly that, anything not pro-gov is to the left. Not 'right' just right.
Why do they not follow what the gov wants? Why do right wings follow what the gov wants. Do you seriously think the gov. helps you? Perhaps its just a coincidence, as in the case of conservative parties cutting taxes it would benefit the rich quite well but disregarding social programs for the poor who can't afford the programs. In this case the gov is right to the rich but wrong to the poor. Right there you have inequality. Right, left, it doesn't sound like good, bad, sounds like a political spectrum and then it doesnt and then it just sounds like follow it or don't follow it like a dictatorship.
Seriously do you think that you make a difference by voting for one party or the other? The logos used for the two parties are even similar (coincidence? haha) and what one says the crowd follows. Perhaps they just publicise the same idea in a differnt fashion so it suits the democrats and it suits the republicans while in fact its all one leading goal.
Here's an example, why is bush listened to? Yes mr. president, of course mr. president, THE PRESIDENT IS HERE, blabla, the usual patriotism.. but what if he doesnt give a damn, second of all every sane LOGICAL person KNOWS that bush and his cronies lied like a flock of birds running into windows. Their lies were so noticable and its as if they didnt know what they said then made up something new, if you make a timeline of what was said and done and then follow it there is great inconsistency and lack of logic in their actions. In other simple words agendas and who cares once they get their paycheck.
YogsVR4
06-08-2003, 08:07 PM
Its also true the anytime the right critisizes something the left says, somehow we are attacking their right to speak. The left has a seems to think that the fact they are not believed or argued with makes us think they are anti-american. The left has a pretty thin skin.
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taranaki
06-10-2003, 02:56 AM
I don't think I qualify as a right winger,but even I can see that you are ridiculously anti-American.You have splattered this forum with 'cut and paste link' threads that are all thinly-disguised attacks ,often without any substance,and mostly without logic.You offer little or no considered opinion on the topics,instead choosing to launch a barrage of nonsense against anyone who tries to question the relevance of your links.You are pushing the level of debate in this forum to new lows,please either raise your game, or go annoy the patriots on some other site.
Pick
06-10-2003, 01:17 PM
Originally posted by taranaki
I don't think I qualify as a right winger,but even I can see that you are ridiculously anti-American.You have splattered this forum with 'cut and paste link' threads that are all thinly-disguised attacks ,often without any substance,and mostly without logic.You offer little or no considered opinion on the topics,instead choosing to launch a barrage of nonsense against anyone who tries to question the relevance of your links.You are pushing the level of debate in this forum to new lows,please either raise your game, or go annoy the patriots on some other site.
Are you referring to Gigatron?:confused:
if so...... :1:
I don't think I qualify as a right winger,but even I can see that you are ridiculously anti-American.You have splattered this forum with 'cut and paste link' threads that are all thinly-disguised attacks ,often without any substance,and mostly without logic.You offer little or no considered opinion on the topics,instead choosing to launch a barrage of nonsense against anyone who tries to question the relevance of your links.You are pushing the level of debate in this forum to new lows,please either raise your game, or go annoy the patriots on some other site.
Are you referring to Gigatron?:confused:
if so...... :1:
Pick
06-10-2003, 01:22 PM
Gigatron, you are what we refer to here in America as a hater. You jsut bash and bash, because obviously you love socialism, and that's great because socialism has sent millions of people to their grave.:rolleyes:
But, I think that everybody is sick of your bash America shit, so get of your horse, and make some relevant arguments instead posting useless spam about 'daddy's' and and other crazy irrelevant bullshit.
But, I think that everybody is sick of your bash America shit, so get of your horse, and make some relevant arguments instead posting useless spam about 'daddy's' and and other crazy irrelevant bullshit.
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