dual 312T builds

so because i bid on 2 seperate tamiya kits and won them both by accident, i will build a Regazzoni and Lauda model and display them together.
started with the tub by using the buffing metalizer testors stuff. added some ground up black and red chalk so far.
going for a mid/post race grimy look.
the metalizer works well if you go for weathered. if i were to try and do showroom new its not ideal for that

Hey Brabham79 looks good can't wait to see more progress shots.....What metalizer did you use and weathering techniques? That's if you are willing to let us in on your secret

Cheers

thanks Nos
using the tamiya aluminum buffing metalizer and some ground up prismacolor pastal soaked in a little water and wiped away with a q tip.
the metalizer is a bit annoying as it never dries and if overbuffed needs to be repainted. im still struggling with the second chassis but need to move on.
again since its pretty raw its best to do this it seems if youre going to weather. that metalizer isnt super smooth

I never give up just keep trying different methods.....Have you tried Alcad paints to get your results or that chrome powder I have heard people using Bare Metal Foil on this kit...
I have the Hasegawa kit and still haven't decided on what to do for the chassis it comes factory chromed but it is just not quite there for my liking so I am going to strip it and come up with another method thats why I asked what you did. Anyway best of luck and keep the progress shots coming

i dont want to put down this metalizer. im REALLY pleased with it! if not overdone its a fantastic satin polished metal look. the aluminmum panels in the ferrari race cars of this era were super polished looking, so its easy to over polish and over do it.
but for now im sticking with this method.
i played around with tin foil and the results to me were no better and more hassle. never tried the alcad or pwders.

so i tried doing a fiberglass weave pattern on the brake cooling ducts with a fabric that turned out to be too thick. found some much thinner material and will try again
this didnt really work out. but ordered a new sheet of parts and will try again

Hey I have a Joe Honda 312T reference book if you need any pics out of it I would sell it to to you but I haven't built my T yet. Gladly email them to you. Looking at the vents in the book they look like they where a non-weave fibreglass with a real brown/orange look to them. can find a pic and send it to you.

robrex did a larger scale of this somewhere on this forum and from memory he made a cast of the kit vents and poured them out of clear resin. If you could do that then you could play around with the Tamiya clear orange to get your effect....just a thought!

Maybe next time you could use some window-blinds, that stuff is very cheap and is much thinner...and it replacates a fiberglass look your looking for

nosaj76,
are there any pics in the joe honda book where they show the sidepods without bodywork? i have the 312T kit (1/12) in my stash and am thinking of rebuilding the tub from scratch using aluminium sheets, but i have not found a single reference shot where they show the car without the bodywork. and the tamiya part there is a bit lacking. i know there must be some sort of airchannel or whatnot in it, but... you don't see.
the one pic i have is shown from the front and is very small. i would love to know if there is a shot (from the side) showing those details there in the book.

and to brabham, that metallic effect looks pretty awesome. good work

No one outside who knows this awesome Scale Motorsport set?? ;)

http://store.scalemotorsport.com/merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=SM&Product_Code=8070&Category_Code=18

sky1911
I will have a look in the book for you I dare say there would me some money shots that your looking for.

gp-model
I would love to get some of their etch stuff especially the one your showing but big bucks!

sky1911

gp-model
I would love to get some of their etch stuff especially the one your showing but big bucks!

Yes it is expensive, but it`s worth each cent when you want to do a superdetailed model, i have the Wolf WR1 set and it is realy awesome. I hope they come up with more of these sets for other 1:12 like the Lotus or even the P34 in future :naughty:

i was considering doing the dryer sheet method with some semigloss to recreate this look attached

Hey sky1911,

Is this what your looking for ? If so I can get more pics for you. All the pics in the book only show the rear half of the cowling removed obviously the front was rarely removed.

http://i1230.photobucket.com/albums/ee486/nos1976/312T1003_zpsf4747f63.jpg

Yes it is expensive, but it`s worth each cent when you want to do a superdetailed model, i have the Wolf WR1 set and it is realy awesome. I hope they come up with more of these sets for other 1:12 like the Lotus or even the P34 in future :naughty:

Have you actually tried to use them? I mean the ones with big etchings placed on plastic parts? Tamiya kits usually fits closely and adding these PE sheets on the tub will make other body parts unusuable as they won't fit anymore. And what about the edges where two etched sheets meet? Won't work in my book - and I have not yet seen it used on a model. Any with pictures of SMS style tub work on the 312T or Wolf?

Flemming

No till today i did not try it, a few parts are missing to start this one but i think it will be no problem to fix them. Maybe a bit sanding is needed to bring back the fitting of the parts, but this is modeling ;)

Hey sky1911,

Is this what your looking for ? If so I can get more pics for you. All the pics in the book only show the rear half of the cowling removed obviously the front was rarely removed.

hi nosaj76,

that is awesome. anything like that is appreciated. and it's just too bad that there is now shot of the forward section of the actual tub with the cowling / bodywork removed. those are what i am really after.
i wonder how similar the later models T2, T3 or T4 are underneath the bodywork and if there are any shots of those cars available.

regarding the SMS set. there is a set on ebay at this time selling for 100$, i had been interested in obtaining that set before from that seller, but due to some previous issues, he was not willing to ship it outside the US. that's when i started making paper templates and scale plans to rebuild the tub from aluminium sheets. my intention was (and still is) to rebuild the tub completely and not use the tamiya parts. that's also why i am looking for pictures of the sides without the bodywork since i believe the tamiya part is very sketchy there (but can't really say without having seen the nude chassis/tub). the idea was to use those metal sheets trimmed to match the dimensions of the tamiya parts, make the sheets overlap (much like the actual tub), drill holes in the overlapping areas CA them together and then using scale rivets in those previously drilled holes as an additional bit of strengthening and to replicate the original look. all this would have to be done with rather thin alu sheet - 0.1-0.2mm to be somewhere close to original scale and to still be strong enough to carry the remaining parts without bending/breaking.

to the OP. sorry for taking this offtopic

im learning alot! i like the idea of replicating metal and weathering on a plastic canvas so i was fine with the stock parts. plus Tamiya does such an amazing job molding such well built parts it would be a shame to toss them.

Hey guys,

Sky1911: The Joe Honda books are the best reference books pants down for the F1 scene of the early years, but unfortunately if you have a series of models to get done there is just not one book that does that particular series of models, you basically have to by a book on each....so the book I have is Ferrari 312T and a small section on the 312T2 from 1975-76

Brabham: I have to agree with you on the Tamiya comment about how good their finishing is they have all ways been good...but...I received Hasegawa's 1/20th of the Ferrari 312T and man is that bad boy packed with styrene and the attention to detail is awesome I think they are coming up behind Tamiya hard and fast and they have alot of after market parts for it. I bought the etch set which comes with everything and the turned ally wheels. I also bought their recent release of the Yamaha YZR500 1988 Marlboro (Eddie Lawson) and when I opened it I nearly fell off my chair....WOW! Only small problem is there are no full Marlboro decals as I guess of cigarette laws and censorship in most countries but TABU Designs have fixed that which I have already purchased.....sorry about being so long winded but if you have an opportunity to see or purchase one of these kits....... do it.

How about an update on this?

Later,
Lee

sorry for the crazy crazy long gap here in time. i really haven't done much of anything but wanted to give a small update on how the metalizer and chalk effects were coming along.

really pleased with this technique, and will keep applying it as i go. it does a great job as a cast aluminum as it leaves a small bumpy texture if you don't over buff. so i feel like the engine block will look really nice when i get to it.

just need to pick the model back up again...been too long

Wow! The front bulkhead in particular looks like it has been cast in some solid aluminium. Keep going! I love it