Recap of Continental Europe F1 Fleet | Take 2

Hi everyone,

I think it's time to create a new thread in replacement of the mythic Minimagic thread (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=576508) which was last updated 6 years ago.

Here we go :

007 | 1994 | 7th car built | Jet Black | "GE 18967" Switzerland
last seen @ Tuscany Tour may 2014

http://mclf1.free.fr/Roadcar/007/007_speed_p.jpg (http://mclf1.free.fr/Roadcar/007/007_speed.jpg) http://mclf1.free.fr/Roadcar/007/007_interior2_p.jpg (http://mclf1.free.fr/Roadcar/007/007_interior2.jpg)

#007 is believed to be the lowest priced road car ever sold during Paris auction on 1998 where it was sold for 3,8MFF about 600k€. It arrives from USA on 2010, prior to that, it was in UK. This car drives often and the owner is highly sympathic :) The car was previously registered "GE 682 660" with the same owner

047 | 1996 | 41st car built | Magnesium Silver | BMW Group Classic | Munich, Germany
the museum is currently closed

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/9391/p1050955.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/109/p1050955.jpg/) http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/5822/p1050939k.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/40/p1050939k.jpg/) http://img704.imageshack.us/img704/2108/p1050933.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/704/p1050933.jpg/)

#047 belongs to BMW AG and replaced #010 after his crash (thanks Erik). It had 1500km three years ago (thanks Roger_ph)

048 | 1996 | 44th car built | Brilliant Metallic Blue | "GE 100 048" Switzerland
sold by Kidston SA (http://kidston.com/kidston-cars/2471/1996-McLaren-F1)
last seen @ Tuscany Tour may 2014

http://img471.imageshack.us/img471/7580/img22822no8af.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/471/img22822no8af.jpg/) http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/3027/img2427edited5lx5mv.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/92/img2427edited5lx5mv.jpg/) http://img238.imageshack.us/img238/5200/img2428edited1ys9qf.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/238/img2428edited1ys9qf.jpg/)

#048 is a two owner car, little used (10269km) in 2013. It apeared in Monaco in 90s. It stays in Switzerland.

071 | 1998 | 61st car built | Historic Orange | high mirrors | "D-MC3" Germany
last seen @ MP4-12C launch event, Düsseldorf june 2010

http://img7.imagevenue.com/loc590/th_13127_IMG_5087_122_590lo.JPG (http://img7.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=13127_IMG_5087_122_590lo.JPG) http://img245.imagevenue.com/loc82/th_13134_IMG_5094_122_82lo.JPG (http://img245.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=13134_IMG_5094_122_82lo.JPG) http://img246.imagevenue.com/loc481/th_11098_IMG_5084_122_481lo.JPG (http://img246.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=11098_IMG_5084_122_481lo.JPG)

#071 is a one owner car.

075 | 1998 | last car built | Yquem | "GE 593 808" Switzerland
last seen @ MCL HQ gathering april 28th 2010

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20L/th_13350_P1020005_122_88lo.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20L/13350_P1020005_122_88lo.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20L/th_13352_P1020006_122_686lo.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20L/13352_P1020006_122_686lo.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20L/th_13360_P1020009_122_1023lo.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20L/13360_P1020009_122_1023lo.jpg)

#075 is a two owner car. Aziz Ojjeh sold it to his brother Mansour on 2006.

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03R | 1996 Le Mans 4th | 1995 BPR series champion | Art Sports livery n°30 | "M475 CRV" UK | Germany
last seen @ Tuscany Tour may 2014

05R | 1995 Le Mans 13th | Cesar livery n°42 (Black & Orange) | "CES4R" UK & France
last seen @ Joe Macari new showroom inauguration march 6th 2014
This car is UK registered and kept in France

18R | FINA livery n°39 | BMW Group Classic | Munich, Germany
last seen @ Villa d'Este 2012

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=40879&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1288214437 (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=40879&d=1288214437) http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=40880&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1288214437 (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=40880&d=1288214437)

26R | 1997 Le Mans 3rd | FINA livery n°42 | BMW Group Classic | Munich, Germany
last seen @ Welt Museum Munich 2012

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=40881&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1288214437 (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/attachment.php?attachmentid=40881&d=1288214437)

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now we will talk about cars which are not confirmed and I hope we will debate on the forum :)

053 | 1995 | 35th car built | White | Zurich (CH) or Middle East
last seen @ Salon Privé 2006

http://mclf1.free.fr/Roadcar/053/053_t.jpg (http://mclf1.free.fr/Roadcar/053/053.jpg) http://mclf1.free.fr/Roadcar/053/053bis_t.jpg (http://mclf1.free.fr/Roadcar/053/053bis.jpg) http://mclf1.free.fr/Roadcar/053/053ter_t.jpg (http://mclf1.free.fr/Roadcar/053/053ter.jpg)

053 was sold @ Salon Privé 2006 or after and is believed to be owned by someone from Middle East but possibly kept in Switzerland.

Phil

I can' find #075 pics taken in Geneva and posted on the forum.

Phil

Hi Phil,
#047, #18R & #26R are in BMW Group Classic. This is the official name.
That's great what you done here!

Off the top of my head you need to add #03R and #21R, both with Christian Glasel in Germany.

To round it out, like the others, we should perhaps compile the list of cars no longer in Europe but that could come later on.

I have those pics of #075 in Geneva and can share some later.

>8^)
ER

Hi Erik,

Are you sure Christian Glasel cars are located in Germany ?
#03R story is official now ?

Phil

I don't know where the cars are physically located, but I've always considered #21R to be there.

If you didn't think the movement of #03R was public knowledge then I guess it is now. I heard it from a couple of sources during our Italy trip. No one suggested it was a secret to me.

>8^)
ER

Are there any photos of #048 at the Aston Martin dealer?

I think this is a great idea. I had all my F1's in order with the chassis number, build number, color, year, and picture to go with all of it. Did not have them on back-up yet if you get the picture. Sure would be nice to replace that with those four pieces of info per car.

Are there any photos of #048 at the Aston Martin dealer?

There was a YouTube video of it at a dealer in Switzerland around the time of the F1 Tour. I think the link is in the video thread.

Of the three - #010, #017 or #033 - the only one I give any chance of still existing is #033. I don't find it very likely though and if it is still around it has been fairly well hidden.

>8^)
ER

Hi,

OK Erik, I put #03R & #21R following your advice and owner nationality. Maybe someone here can confirm to close the debat.

the chance are high for #033 rebuilt according to Greg. I am convinced it is in Europe but no proof :(

LMMike > you have pics for ALL chassis ??

Phil

Right now I have a huge picture collection both in my computer, back-up, and CD, they were all saved at random. I can't remember the chassis number for most. I do have chassis numbers attached to some that I have recently acquired. When I saw the pictures posted here with all the detail attached to them regarding the year, chassis, build number, and year it inspired me to perhaps start rebuilding that list again, as I lost that particular portion of my collection, which I believe had all cars or almost all of them.

Nice job Phil :)

If my understanding is correct, #075 is really a two owner car. It was built and delivered to Mansour's brother Aziz and now Mansour has it himself.

Here are the Geneva pictures:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20L/th_13350_P1020005_122_88lo.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20L/13350_P1020005_122_88lo.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20L/th_13360_P1020009_122_1023lo.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20L/13360_P1020009_122_1023lo.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20L/th_13354_P1020007_122_809lo.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20L/13354_P1020007_122_809lo.jpg) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20L/th_13352_P1020006_122_686lo.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/McLaren%20F1%20L/13352_P1020006_122_686lo.jpg)

At times you might have a better chance of finding it in Woking:

http://i50.tinypic.com/14y0ahy.jpg

>8^)
ER

First, thank you Erik and Greg for #075 pics, I will add it later.

Thanks Erik for this story, are you 100% sure or is it a guess ?

The Aziz/Mansour story?

I am fairly confident. :)

>8^)
ER

have a new avatar Erik?

nice, chassis? Sorry it doesnt spring to my mind

#023 - you really do need to fly to South Africa ;)

Do we know why #023 is fitted with road car rims ?

Can we do the other way : put GTR wheels on a road car non-HDF ? :lol:

Guys, can I use your sentences to complete with chassis which leave Europe ?

I don't know the answer to your question on #023, but the one that makes the most sense is that the owner wanted to retain the larger available steering angle that is allowed with the 17" wheels. Fitting 18's to a road car makes tight parking maneuvers and even negotiating some traffic obstacles rather more difficult.

>8^)
ER

Hi,

#048 stays in Europe :)

We hope to see it

Me too

Have heard it will stay in Switzerland and that there is probably a good chance we'll see it around in the future.

Always good to hear, but especially with a car that has been harder to find than this guy: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v482/Peloton25/Smilies/whereswaldo.gif

>8^)
ER

I update the first post with #048. also, I wonder where are BMW cars since the museum has moved (or is it done ?)

I was looking informations on crashed F1 and I found a post where Patrick mentionned an owner name in Netherlands : Peter Maronier.

Recently, I heard about a F1 in Netherlands, is it possible ?

I also heard something about a silver or green F1 in Switzerland but I am not convinced.

Hi,

I made a little update, I need to add pics.

I put #03R & #05R as European cars.

So is the name "Peter Maronier" means something for someone ?

Phil

Yes a Dutch entrepreneur.
It was rumoured long in here in Holland that he ownes an F1 but it has never been seen or confirmed. Would be stunning to see an F1 on Dutch plates!!!

I have edited the first post with #007, #048 & #03R new plates.

Phil