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Harry Miller's 1917 "Golden Sub' 1/24th scale


Ettore
10-07-2012, 07:32 AM
Here's my last completed project, the Golden Sub that Harry Miller built for Barney Oldfield. I designed the body using a CAD program and had it printed by Shapeways. Everything else is scratchbuilt.

Ettore
10-07-2012, 07:37 AM
The Cad program I use is 3DS Max, although I also use SketchUp for simpler parts. This is the body in computer and printed.
Ettore
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gionc
10-07-2012, 07:59 AM
Looks like they used sintherized nilon, I know well how crappy is those material to work with: to finish and worst to engrave.

I see fantastic things and few, or better only one, thing that I don't like so much: overall the job has the quality of a multimedia good kit, so my respect, to be done "in home" it's superb; rims are fantastic, would be tricky in 1/24 to do so latched rims. The frame/chassis is superb also, from the rails to the bits. The project deserved better panel lines, but I repeat, I know how crappy is this material and how hard is to do a fine job: I think a resin clone it's almost necessary to engrave panel lines.

Huge efforts, superb quality, 5star, bravo!

Veyron
10-07-2012, 08:01 AM
That is a beautiful thing, buddy!

Grats on your 3D progress!

lovegt40
10-07-2012, 09:26 AM
awesome work ettore. deep respect for this 3d mastercraft.

cinqster
10-07-2012, 06:13 PM
Ettore,

That model is fantastic! I had this one earmarked for a future 1/8th build...LOL!:lol:

I don't suppose in your research you found any mechanical reference pics for the Stutz Black Hawk Special by per chance? I have most of the usual available web pics, but still short of reference material and just finishing building the block at the moment. I know certain components of the SBHS were loosely based on the Golden Sub, such as the twin duplex steering box...have pics of that already though!

Cheers in advance:licka:!

F1-Fan
10-07-2012, 07:26 PM
Fantastic!

Did you scratchbuilt the wheels too? How did you do that? They are awesome!

Regards

euro_z
10-08-2012, 04:26 AM
never seen this car before, but it looks cool!

GirchyGirchy
10-08-2012, 09:04 AM
Fantastic! If you don't mind my asking, how much did the body cost to have 'built'?

Ettore
10-08-2012, 10:11 AM
Thanks all. To answer a few questions - Gio, the material is not very good for modeling work. It cuts easily but does not want to be sanded or filed. And to scribe panel lines is very difficult, due to it shredding. I hope to be good enough the next time I make the body in computer to "cut" the panel lines. Cinqster, I have no other info, other than what can be found on the net. F1 fan, the wheels are scratchbuilt. Here's a link to a tutorial I made that is posted on ZoomZoom's Fotki page:http://public.fotki.com/ACME-IPMS/tutorial-making-wir/. It is necessary to have a miniature lathe to make them. I have made some improvements since I wrote the tutorial, however. I now use a rotary table to determine the angles between the holes. But.... I doubt if I ever will machine and drill the rims again because I designed in computer my latest rims for a 72 spoke Borrani wire wheel. They are .68" (17.25 mm) in diameter, .21" (5.35 mm) tall, with spoke hole size of .014" (.33 mm). They are now on order and I will receive them tomorrow. The CAD program I used was SketchUp. It's free and is the easiest to learn but there is a learning curve to it; you don't just sit down and make something the first time. The rims are printed in Shapeway's frosted ultra detail material, the cost including shipping is $30.The body is printed in white strong flexible and cost $30, including shipping. The much smaller rim cost is higher because it is printed in a much higher resolution material. Here's a few pics of the real thing.

chaos
10-08-2012, 05:31 PM
That's awesome! Well done mate!

F1-Fan
10-08-2012, 09:24 PM
Thank you for your explanation and for the link. I saved it for future reference.

Regards

Ettore
10-09-2012, 12:28 PM
I have just received the 3d printed rims. The printed holes did not print, I was unable to get any line through them. I did drill them out with a .014" bit. and was able to thread a .009" line through. Next time I do this I'll use a larger hole, maybe .020".
Ettore
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Ettore
10-11-2012, 01:29 PM
Wire wheel update: I turned a hub and mounted it and the rim in a jig to hold the assembly while stringing. Due to the inside diameter of about .5" ( 12 mm), it is difficult to string 72 spokes, but it looks great and is a relief when finished.
Ettore
Proud member of ACME

F1-Fan
10-11-2012, 05:53 PM
awesome!

Kjenjak
10-12-2012, 03:52 AM
Those wheels are a gorgeous piece of work!

Ettore
11-12-2012, 09:25 PM
The Golden Sub scored a Top Ten award at the Southern Nationals NNL show last weekend.
Ettore
Proud member of ACME

Zulma510
11-13-2012, 02:46 AM
If you don't mind my asking, how much did the body cost to have 'built'?

Ettore
11-13-2012, 07:21 AM
$30 including shipping from Shapeways. Everything else scratchbuilt.
Ettore
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Ettore
11-13-2012, 07:22 AM
OOPPS! Wrong image, that's a Maserati. Try again.

Ettore
11-13-2012, 07:26 AM
Here it is. Rest of body is basswood and suspension is brass.
Ettore
Proud member of ACME

andybmw7272
11-14-2012, 06:09 AM
You have to see this one in person to appreciate the detail and the true execution.
So good.
Great job Pico!
Andy

Ettore
11-14-2012, 10:39 AM
Thanks, glad ya like.
Ettore
Proud member of ACME

cjsbosox
11-14-2012, 04:47 PM
Wow not a big fan of cars of that era. But I must say that this is quiet imppresive

cinqster
11-14-2012, 05:59 PM
The Golden Sub scored a Top Ten award at the Southern Nationals NNL show last weekend.
Ettore
Proud member of ACME

Congratulations Ettore and well deserved!:wink:

Ettore
11-14-2012, 07:44 PM
Thanks, glad ya like. Here's a Youtube link to it in action:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjLlbvclvaw
Ettore
Proud member of ACME

Scalemodelfanatic
11-16-2012, 11:45 PM
One of my favorite vintage racers, superb model, hope to make one for my collection some time in the future. But again a beatiful made a finish model, the wheels are also a beauty in their own, SUPERB!!!

Ettore
11-17-2012, 10:03 AM
Here's a link to The Old Motor about Harry Miller and the Golden Sub:http://theoldmotor.com/?p=63241
Ettore
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Ettore
11-18-2012, 11:22 AM
I hope to make some more from that period, it's when everything hung out in the breeze, especially the driver and mechanic. Real he-man stuff. If you visit the Indy Museum or a concours, check out the amount of metal in the cars, they built them like agricultural implements. Two I'd like to do are the 1914 Duesenberg, driven by Eddie Rickenbacker, the red, white and blue car with the American flag on the cowl, and the 1921 Duesenberg that won the 1921 French Grand Prix, driven by Jimmy Murphy. There are plans of that car available, also I photographed it at Amelia Island Concours last year, so it would be easy to build and get right.
Ettore
Proud member of ACME

voyageur
11-18-2012, 04:24 PM
Wow, this is true scratch-building with a modern twist. Looks awesome and the prize is well earned! The color is also spot-on and the rims look fantastic.

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