Nissan 240RS rally

Hello guys !
I start a new project for production.
It Nissan 240 RS Group B rally.
I think it's the only car of the legendary Group B, which is not released in a plastic or resin kit.
I think it would be a full complete set of resin.
Will Monte Carlo Rally 1983, Timo Salonen.
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That's what will be used:
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From the Skyline will be used chassis with front suspension and engine. Certainly two of the cylinder will be removed. at Skyline 6 cylinder engine, and I need a 4 cylinder.
I began to change with the body.
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The rear bumper was cut off. It will be a separate part.
I started doing the back panel, because some of it will be visible. And so I'll do the new taillights.
And just as the lower part of the rear fender to be changed.

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Nice choice! I'll follow this one too.

Very interesting project, will definitely stay tuned. Can't wait to see the conversion of the engine part!

Hello Romik!!!

Wonderful project, and your driver choice is perfect, Salonen drove very impressively against Group B Turbo-4WD beasts.

I believe that you would find better engine base from this kit:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/AOSHIMA-1-24-DIRT-TRIAL-GAZELLE-B-II-TYPE-WRC-/310393309373#vi-desc

It's a FJ20 engine in that kit, but I have understood that it is same as FJ24 of RS240, just a bigger bore. At least the valve cover is identical.

Good luck with your project!

I will be here for learning!! Thanks for it!!

Hello .
Spede , Thank you for the link. But there is a turbo engine. And the Skyline engine has the correct intake manifold. I compared the photos, the engine from Skyline very similar, but the extra two cylinders.
I will make pictures in the evening.

Hello .
Spede , Thank you for the link. But there is a turbo engine. And the Skyline engine has the correct intake manifold. I compared the photos, the engine from Skyline very similar, but the extra two cylinders.
I will make pictures in the evening.

Allrighty, just googled some pics of Skyline's engine and you're right. It really looks same, just two sylinders more. Probably japanese have used same base engine for 6- and 4-syl. engines.

Here is the Skyline engine
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Here is 240 RS engine
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Wowowowwww !!
This is probably my most wanted Group B except a correct complete 205 Turbo 16 Evo2 so you can imagine how much I will follow this new project and want the model !!
I personaly would prefer 84 season car, slightly different livery but a bit nicer to me, and cars became left hand drive during the season.
But 83 or 84 you may get success with it.

I am sooo up for this.

I think these will fly out the door - I'd make a lot of them if I were you...

Wowowowwww !!
This is probably my most wanted Group B except a correct complete 205 Turbo 16 Evo2 so you can imagine how much I will follow this new project and want the model !!
I personaly would prefer 84 season car, slightly different livery but a bit nicer to me, and cars became left hand drive during the season.
But 83 or 84 you may get success with it.

Yes Phil, I think you are interested in this version of the car.:smile:
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There are some difficulties with wheel .
For the 1983 Monte Carlo I know that I can use .
In 1983, Salonen vehicle was a for left-hand drive. And the other cars were right-hand drive. The photo team in New Zealand in 1983. It can be seen at the location of the wiper
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Timo Salonen , Monte 1983
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But this is preliminary, possibly in the process there will be new ideas :smile:

It's fantastic to see that there is someone which listen our prayers :smile:

How about optional parts for LHD and RHD cars? I'd like the '83 Pond Corsica car myself.

some photos and other...
http://www.forum-auto.com/sport-auto/histoire-du-sport-auto/sujet378910.htm

Yes Phil, I think you are interested in this version of the car.:smile:
http://romik505.users.photofile.ru/photo/romik505/96646779/xlarge/127841915.jpg
There are some difficulties with wheel .
For the 1983 Monte Carlo I know that I can use .
In 1983, Salonen vehicle was a for left-hand drive. And the other cars were right-hand drive. The photo team in New Zealand in 1983. It can be seen at the location of the wiper
http://romik505.users.photofile.ru/photo/romik505/96646779/xlarge/127841946.jpg
Timo Salonen , Monte 1983
http://romik505.users.photofile.ru/photo/romik505/96646779/xlarge/127841916.jpg
But this is preliminary, possibly in the process there will be new ideas :smile:


Yes Roman, I'm mostly interested in the 84 season car, MonteCarlo, Corsica or Portugal version... or another one
there also was a Private car in Portugal 85 (?) with "Lois" sponsor over black body, could be another one to release.

For the wheels I may have a solution because as you know I already worked on the car too, so I thought about the wheels question.
Will let you know it soon.

Do you think 83 and 84 season liveries could be done on same decal sheet ?
don't want to insist but... :icon16: :lol: :lol:

Hi there!
Great project!!!
About wheels, check Scala24. I bought a simil Targa 4 spokes, that I used for a SEAT 124 FL, Zanini at MonteCarlo 1977 #12.
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4128/5022415515_3f963324cc_n.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rodarpelmon/5022415515/)
SEAT 124 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rodarpelmon/5022415515/) por rodarpelmon.com (http://www.flickr.com/people/rodarpelmon/), en Flickr

May be too small for the Nissan, but you can make it larger.

Will follow it, and hope to be able to get one kit!!!

Sergi

Hi guys.
A little work with the body.
The rear bumper and taillights . Rear spoiler with the trunk lid.
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Did the expansion of the fender
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Waow !! this is gonna be another excellent Group B rally car on the 1/24 models market !! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Have you finally considered releasing the 84 version ? I have a set of wheels from a nissan road car which could fit the car.
Also if you would build a right hand dashboard and a left one you would let more possibilities to builders to eventualy build private cars.
The 85 Portugal "Lois" sponsored car would pleased all Portuguese builders. :)

I´ve got to have one of those! Beautiful job so far.

Hello!
I am on vacation. And a little more time for construction.
I changed the hood and front bumper. I'll start running part and will do inside the body. And I will make small objects on the body.
I think that to use these wheels on the Tour de Corse.

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Nothing seems too difficult for you! Keep up the good work! (did you write "vacation"? :p )

you are madman......... but I like that.

This car is a part of those who I love, those who are a member of beautiful years of my youth.

I was lucky to roll 2-3 rallies as co driver in this brilliant car.
Good work to you, I am you with many of interet


eric

The 85 Portugal "Lois" sponsored car would pleased all Portuguese builders. :)
:iceslolan

Driven by Santinho Mendes. A former portuguese rallye champion, off-road champion and circuit champion.

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/8725/santinhomendesvoltaport2la.jpg

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Hi guys.
I do a little update.
Here are the details that I have now. This is the basic body parts and lights.
I started doing the bottom part.
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I made a layer of primer to better see the shape of the body. With the body still much work to level the surface.
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Looking amazing so far.

very good, looking nice

another must have kit...

Hi guys.
Small update.
Removed extra 2 cylinders in the engine. Transmission also cut off to get the tilt cylinder block.
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This is not the final form. Valve cover will be slightly changed

I'm almost finished chassis. Rear suspension allows you to put the model on 4 wheel
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Looking really good:thumbsup:

very nice, great work ! :thumbsup:

Hi Roman,

While it's not my thing i must say very nice work so far. Keep the updates coming. I'll be watching them.

Best regards,
Lesley

Soooo going to buy one of these.

Loving it !!

David

Its great to see how it all comes together.

Keep up the good work!

Christian

Hi guys.
Small update. Made the instrument panel.
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And some parts of the engine.
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Valve cover cut into three pieces :smile:
I have a picture engine, and see a different intake manifold. I made the air filter box. But the intake pipe will also be available. I think , used a variety of options, depending on the coverage of the route, perhaps?
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very nice

Very nice dashboard.
Will you offer both left and right hand drive options ? Still just aiming to be able to build another 84 or private version.

Hello! Thank you for your feedback.
Yes, Phil, I plan option for left hand drive. But just need to find the strength to convert the instrument panel to the left hand .:smile:

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Hi Romik,

Great job on the Nissan. Just a small detail. You should probably change the spare wheel location. According to thsi picture it is on the opposite side. (i'm not 100% sure it is authentic, but it should be:)

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv320/vitanvk/Picture_0434b_zpsa23cf1c4.jpg

Hello !
Yeah, maybe you're right about the place of the spare wheel. But the photo contradictory, I looked at it, and here is the place on the right. I do not know what would be right. Change a place for the spare wheel is not difficult.
Thank you.
http://romik505.users.photofile.ru/photo/romik505/96646779/xlarge/129203312.jpg

Hi Romik,

i really don't know, it could be even in the middle... The exaust is on the left for sure- see attached picture, but the spare wheel:screwy:. There was a video "A place in the sun" or something like that in Youtube showing good details of the car in 1983, but it si already removed due to copyrights. Anyway, probably it is not so important, so go ahead:runaround:

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv320/vitanvk/SalonenMC83d_zpsd1b2b1db.jpg

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Have you seen this rebuild? http://www.240rs.jp/240rs-0.htm

excellent build thus far.

link for reference is very handy.

Love this photo from that link.

http://www.240rs.jp/DSC01995.JPG

Looking great romik, don't stop!!

A site with interesting information and pics on various chassis nos http://www1.odn.ne.jp/~car32160/240RS%20Existing%20investigation.htm

Romik505 - I wasn't a follower of "rally' cars until I just now saw this thread of yours - very interesting and you have displayed some excellent modeling skills here - I will follow your thread - excellent work -

John

Hi guys! Many thanks for your information, help and support!
I did almost all of the engine compartment. After the primer layer I will add some elements of small holders.

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Very nice work Roman !! :thumbsup:
You really are the man for all rally fans, not only you bring us superb rally cars but moreover you make them full engine detailed !!
A dream come true seeing those Group B cars missing till you put your attention on it.
I'm a fan ! :lol:

Hello Phil .
Thank you for your support.
I'm going to Estonia in a few hours , watch Rally Saaremaa . After returning, I will show another project, I'm sure you will enjoy it ! :smile:

Hello Phil .
Thank you for your support.
I'm going to Estonia in a few hours , watch Rally Saaremaa . After returning, I will show another project, I'm sure you will enjoy it ! :smile:

If ever it's a flat-6 german Gr. B rally car I will :runaround: :runaround: :runaround: :lol: :lol:

Have a nice time at the rally.

Romik505 - how much of that engine bay was scratch built - I know you mentioned you did the airbox - what else?? You really got me hooked with this thread - John

This is mega scratch-building work!

If ever it's a flat-6 german Gr. B rally car I will :runaround: :runaround: :runaround: :lol: :lol:

I believe it will be french this time Phill... ;)

I believe it will be french this time Phill... ;)

French...? wow... so a Peugeot 205 Evo2...?? :naughty: :naughty: :naughty: :naughty: :naughty:

Hello Phil .
Thank you for your support.
I'm going to Estonia in a few hours , watch Rally Saaremaa . After returning, I will show another project, I'm sure you will enjoy it ! :smile:


WOW! Another project in mind, maybe a Dakar version of a WR Car champion???
Enjoy the Rally, and take your time finishing projects.

Congratulations for your amazing job!
Kind regards to everybody.
Sergi

Romik505 - how much of that engine bay was scratch built - I know you mentioned you did the airbox - what else?? You really got me hooked with this thread - John

Hello John .
Thank you. Completely scratch built : tanks, exhaust manifold, cross stiffening , pipes to the radiator, engine mounts.
But there all parts have been modified, the engine was a 6 cylinder. :)

Hello !
I have done almost all the main parts for Nissan.And made another assembly for verification. It is not very convenient because everything is kept on an adhesive tape and a drop of superglue. All the time that it breaks down.
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Caption Michelin - it will not be
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bottom
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Symmetrical parts are made only once
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Now I'll do the layout for some parts of photoetching. Then model will be disassembled and will prepare for molding parts

Looks impressive!

:runaround:

Another masterpiece, can't wait to get it !! :thumbsup:

Sweet, good luck with casting.

Unbelievable detail for 1/24 -
I'm not much of a "rally" person but this is "real" modeling
John