96 lumina newbie
GingerJ
01-11-2012, 02:30 AM
k everybody im new to this forum stuff sorry anyways
I have a 96 Lumina LS with a 3100 V6 and it wont start i've tried a new battery, a new starter, cleaned the battery cables, checked fuses in case any of them were blown, new plugs and plug wires. When I try to start the car nothing happens i'm pretty sure its something electrical just not sure what. I've been told it may be the key cause it has that little black piece near the top of the key and i was told those can go bad I have not bought a new key yet so I don't know if that's the problem.
any other idea's or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I have a 96 Lumina LS with a 3100 V6 and it wont start i've tried a new battery, a new starter, cleaned the battery cables, checked fuses in case any of them were blown, new plugs and plug wires. When I try to start the car nothing happens i'm pretty sure its something electrical just not sure what. I've been told it may be the key cause it has that little black piece near the top of the key and i was told those can go bad I have not bought a new key yet so I don't know if that's the problem.
any other idea's or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
tempfixit
01-11-2012, 03:12 AM
k everybody im new to this forum stuff sorry anyways
I have a 96 Lumina LS with a 3100 V6 and it wont start i've tried a new battery, a new starter, cleaned the battery cables, checked fuses in case any of them were blown, new plugs and plug wires. When I try to start the car nothing happens i'm pretty sure its something electrical just not sure what. I've been told it may be the key cause it has that little black piece near the top of the key and i was told those can go bad I have not bought a new key yet so I don't know if that's the problem.
any other idea's or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Welcome to AF.
Do you have fuel pressure and spark???
I have a 96 Lumina LS with a 3100 V6 and it wont start i've tried a new battery, a new starter, cleaned the battery cables, checked fuses in case any of them were blown, new plugs and plug wires. When I try to start the car nothing happens i'm pretty sure its something electrical just not sure what. I've been told it may be the key cause it has that little black piece near the top of the key and i was told those can go bad I have not bought a new key yet so I don't know if that's the problem.
any other idea's or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Welcome to AF.
Do you have fuel pressure and spark???
GingerJ
01-11-2012, 05:51 AM
no the car wont even turn over :/
tempfixit
01-11-2012, 08:00 AM
no the car wont even turn over :/
Do you have 12v to the starter???Do you have headlights or dash lights when you turn ignition to run position?? More info is needed.
Do you have 12v to the starter???Do you have headlights or dash lights when you turn ignition to run position?? More info is needed.
Tech II
01-11-2012, 08:39 AM
Turn your key to on, don't crank.......look at the SECURITY light....should come on for 5 seconds and then go out....does it go out?
If yes, then check starter enable relay circuit.....
If it doesn't, then the circuit to the lock cylinder may be open....you would need to ohm the circuit to check it out....
If yes, then check starter enable relay circuit.....
If it doesn't, then the circuit to the lock cylinder may be open....you would need to ohm the circuit to check it out....
GingerJ
01-11-2012, 08:42 AM
dash lights work so do the headlights but when i turn the key it acts like the battery is dead did the same with new battery in it...i checked the old and new battery with my dads car and they both were fine....sorry for the lack of info
jeffcoslacker
01-12-2012, 04:26 PM
Do you know how to do the ol' screwdriver across the starter terminals trick?
If you have 12v at the starter end, that should force it to at least turn over.
Anyway, new VATS key copies are expensive, and the key itself rarely goes bad...usually it's a problem with the contact for that chip inside the ignition lock.
There is a way to bypass the VATS system permanently, if you suspect it is the cause...
Here's some good info:
http://www.thirdgen.org/vats
If you have 12v at the starter end, that should force it to at least turn over.
Anyway, new VATS key copies are expensive, and the key itself rarely goes bad...usually it's a problem with the contact for that chip inside the ignition lock.
There is a way to bypass the VATS system permanently, if you suspect it is the cause...
Here's some good info:
http://www.thirdgen.org/vats
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