Anti-Theft Ideas???

OK..you've got that brand new turbo kit, that hot body kit with the neon lights and a pounding system. When you ride down the street everyone stares wishing they were you....So what happens when you park that bad boy? We all know that honda/Acuras are americas number one stolen cars. How do you keep people from stealing a ride that you have put thousands of dolars into??? anyone have any stories or advice on how to keep your modified vehicle from being on bricks???

FUCK THEIVES!!!!!:flipa:

I say get a paging alarm system with a professional, CUSTOM install, and insure everything. If you can afford it, bite the bullet and report everything to your auto insurance people and let them cover you if anything happens. There's really not much you can do, unfortunately:(

where I live, there have been some new modalities of robbery, now it doesn't matter what kind of alarm you have, because as soon as you hear the alarm and run for your car there's gonna be one of those fuckers with a pistol aiming straight at your face. He wil just tell you to wait till they are finished robbing your system or they will put one through your head. So you are forced to watch how they take away that system that costed you a lot of dough....bastards.

Last week a friend's Golf GTI was robbed this way, hopefully they just had the time to take the head unit becuase a cop siren was heard near and the fuckers made the run for it, and yesterday another friend's Rover 200 was robbed using the same MO, only this time they took absolutely everything, wrecking the dash in the job. Both cars had insurance so no problem there but still....

So I guess alarms are useless now...hope they get this fuckers and shoot the fuck out of them....

:finger:

OK the best thing is to report to the insurance company everything you've done to the car and get a new contract to cover everything i will cost you more...but can you put a price on piece of mind?

also for alarms go with a viper or some other good brand name....some of them on their top models will ofer even to pay money if your car gets stollen...i think viper offers 3K...ask in the store...on my car i have i lock and while its not an larm just an engine lock if it ever gets stolen they'll pay me 3000$ that will more than make up for the deductible

If somebody wants your car bad enough they will get it no matter what you have for anti-theft. Lo-jack I hear is good for relocating your car. A cheap way to protect your ride from being started is by installing a single-pole(kill switch) & hiding it or even pull a fuse.

hiding a switch is a good idea, but how often would you really use it? I have a switch that turns my amp on and off wether the car is running and the stereo is on or not. and I've woken up and got in the car to go to work, and the indicator light on the custom switchbox I made is still on... luckily my amp does'nt draw much juice when it's not playing anything..

I use the switch every time i shut the engine off. Even if its left on no battery drain happens. A single pole switch hooks up to 1 wire basically breaking contact. For instance diconnect the negative coil wire & hook it up to one end of the switch then connect the other end back to the negative side of the coil.

can you wire a warning light or on siren to it like you can get for a headlight warning? I know they sell those at walmart or any car place, but how would you wire it? and where's the best spot for the switch? under the seat? or under the steeringwheel on the other side of the vinyl(hidden)? well any suggestions would be great for detering theifs.. although my car is gonna be a sleeper I still want it to be protected (right now It does'nt have an alarm).

Read the instruction that comes with the kits, Im sure they can tell you how to hook-up that crap.

For the switch find a place hidden from view, I have heard of people mounting the switch behind the coin pocket. As far as mine goes, only i need to know. Another good idea i saw once was dude wired it in to the driver seat belt some how, & only would start with the belt buckled.

he probably wired it to the seatbelt light on the car, good idea for remembering your seatbelt if you can't drive witout it on... cause when I don't have my seatbelt on the red light on the dash goes on.. not that tricky...

Does anyone have the Lo-Jack system? It's pretty popular up here in New Jersey and New York. It even has an early warning systems that pages, calls, emails, and sends you a text message if your car gets moved. Once the thief pulls off then the cops are alerted and they are right on their trail. It even has a kill switch on it too. I think that's a good idea. They even pay you if they can't recover your car in a certain amount of time.

Originally posted by super_man_3179
Does anyone have the Lo-Jack system? It's pretty popular up here in New Jersey and New York. It even has an early warning systems that pages, calls, emails, and sends you a text message if your car gets moved. Once the thief pulls off then the cops are alerted and they are right on their trail. It even has a kill switch on it too. I think that's a good idea. They even pay you if they can't recover your car in a certain amount of time.


so is that the gps tracking system? also if they pay you in carse your car gets stolen....then that is a good system......imo the best thisng is complete insuranrance + an insuured security system that pays you if they steal the car.....this way you know you get your money back and you can just get another car and built that one up....

Don't waste your time with alarms I have known kids to steal head units out of cars with the alarm going off. How many of you stopped to see what is going on when you heard an alarm. NO ONE DOES and NO ONE CARES.

The best way to keep your shit from getting stolen is don't advertise. NO STUPID STICKERS, don't bang your system before you park, Keep every think stock looking if you can, use hide away stuff. (If you have a competition show car you are screwed) Otherwise run the stock deck, or mount your deck out of site while your stock deck stays in dash.

The other thing that works good is use odd screws to mount everything. Use Hex screws or allen screws or screws or bolts that you can't remove with everyday tools. Problem with this is if they want it bad enough they just rip it out. Then the Bill for the damage is even higher.

The best advice is don't advertise. The more you show your stuff off the faster it gets robbed. Any way if you are putting subs and speaks in so you can ride down the block so everyone hears you you are a lamo any way and should be robbed.

Originally posted by Rob80
Don't waste your time with alarms I have known kids to steal head units out of cars with the alarm going off. How many of you stopped to see what is going on when you heard an alarm. NO ONE DOES and NO ONE CARES.

The best way to keep your shit from getting stolen is don't advertise. NO STUPID STICKERS, don't bang your system before you park, Keep every think stock looking if you can, use hide away stuff. (If you have a competition show car you are screwed) Otherwise run the stock deck, or mount your deck out of site while your stock deck stays in dash.

The other thing that works good is use odd screws to mount everything. Use Hex screws or allen screws or screws or bolts that you can't remove with everyday tools. Problem with this is if they want it bad enough they just rip it out. Then the Bill for the damage is even higher.

The best advice is don't advertise. The more you show your stuff off the faster it gets robbed. Any way if you are putting subs and speaks in so you can ride down the block so everyone hears you you are a lamo any way and should be robbed.


gotta agree on that. my integra is so damn hard to pull the stereo out. the bolts are IMPOSSIBLE to reach without taking the entire damn inside of the car apart! and i think there is some chip in the key that wont let it start and i have heard that is why the integras get a lot less stolen now from the year they started doing the chip thing.

Originally posted by sameintheend01



gotta agree on that. my integra is so damn hard to pull the stereo out. the bolts are IMPOSSIBLE to reach without taking the entire damn inside of the car apart! and i think there is some chip in the key that wont let it start and i have heard that is why the integras get a lot less stolen now from the year they started doing the chip thing.

the only problem is when they will literally rip the dash apart to take them...it happens quite often...you'll be amazed how fast you can dissasemble a dash if you don't care about the damage

I have to completely agree w/ Rob80-don't advertise! I once had along time ago (what I thought) was a good system-2 10" speakers and an amp along w/a Pioneer deck-and 23 days after I got it all put in, it was stolen! Right from my high school parking lot! I even had the face to my deck above my visor-they ripped apart the dash and didn't even get the face! I had an alarm on it and that obviously did not matter! But I made the mistake of advertising-because I was 17 and thought I was cool being the only girl w/ a system! But 6 years later-I have the exact setup but I don't advertise and I feel much more secure. Even when I pull up at a stop light I turn it down. You should get a system that YOU are impressed with...don't get one to impress everyone else! Cuz that's just gonna make them want to steal it. I also agree w/ keeping the car stock. Even tinted windows makes people curious to know what you are hiding-even if you aren't hiding anything. :flash:

Don't advertise like mentioned above. Also don't make your car too flashy. I wanted to get some Sparco like seats for my car, and my friends advised me not to saying even if your car looks stock on the outside, it's WAY more likely to be broken into if you have racing seats, than if you have your stock seats.

Alarms DO help, but only to amature theifs. I remember when I used to do the band at the school I'm at right now, we were gone to a far away football game, and came back around midnight. Apparently not too long before we got back, a couple of my friend's cars got broken into, but my car being the only otherone around there, DIDN'T get touched, yet it should have been the first one touched just by looks of it. One of the broken into cars was parked NEXT to mine, and there was even shattered glass from it's windows all over my hood, but I guess my bright ass super bright blue LED I have flash for my alarm light kept them away from touching my car, not wanting to set it off.

Also a hidden switch is good to have. It's amazing what a cheap $5 investment such as a switch, can protect. And there's SO many things you can wire it to as well. Fuses, distributer coil, fuel pump, battery. The choices are almost endless. Great thing is, a switch is stand alone, so seperate from any alarm, and it doesn't require a power source.

Originally posted by SilverY2KCivic
Also a hidden switch is good to have. It's amazing what a cheap $5 investment such as a switch, can protect. And there's SO many things you can wire it to as well. Fuses, distributer coil, fuel pump, battery. The choices are almost endless. Great thing is, a switch is stand alone, so seperate from any alarm, and it doesn't require a power source.

Hey thanks for the info! I don't know too much about security options-I do have an alarm but what good is that to someone who knows how to avoid them...like we are all saying? I have to look into something additional. I honestly didn't know what else there was out there. Thanks again! :D

i think there is some chip in the key that wont let it start and i have heard that is why the integras get a lot less stolen now from the year they started doing the chip thing. Thats right its an immobilizer & thats why your keys are expensive. If you want remote start a master key must be hidden in the dash, so the immbolizer picks it up. All newer honda/acuras have this

my dad bought my civic from a guy he new and he had a kill switch on it under the carpet. right behind the clutch pedal. so you would just put your foot under and step on it and it would switch on and off. it's pretty cool but it shuts off from the battery i think so i have to reset my damn stations and settings everytime i did it so i don't use it anymore but i think i might hook it up to a fuse or something. cuz i wouldn't think to look there. and it's more hidden then some that are right underneath the dash by the steering wheel

That's some good info. I was thinking about getting a turbo kit installed into my integra, but I don't have any idea how to hide that big ass silver intercooler. That is a dead giveaway. I was going to leave the exhaust stock and run about 6-7 psi...just to get more power. Keeping everthing else regular. No rims, No seat, I want gauges but I don't want to put them in pods right by the drives side window so everyone and their moms can see. Are there any other places that you can hid boost and fuel gauges so that people can't see them at first glance???

Originally posted by super_man_3179
Are there any other places that you can hid boost and fuel gauges so that people can't see them at first glance???

This is where I have my gauges in my 98 GS-R. You can buy a gauge pod that replaces the entire black plastic piece but comes w/ inserts for the gauges. I have the Cobalt style Auto Meter gauges so the black background sort of blends in more w/ everything rather than the white. I also have reverse indiglo gauges so the colors of all the gauges match perfectly! This style pod is rather discreet during the day because of the colors-but at night they are bright but not as noticable as the other pod is. Just an idea. :)
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i have the autolock. anyone else use it? i guess its effective.

of course way better then the club which is useless cuz thieves can just cut the wheel.

is that the one that keeps the clutch or break pedal from being depressed?

Originally posted by liquid8
is that the one that keeps the clutch or break pedal from being depressed?


yes it is. u cannot shift if the brake is not pressed down.

Originally posted by dragontales
i have the autolock.

Where could I find one of these? And how is it installed? $$$??

Originally posted by GSRGRL2


Where could I find one of these? And how is it installed? $$$??

i got mine at auto zone. cost anywhere between 40 to 60 bucks. pretty easy to put on. hard to explain if not in person.

Originally posted by dragontales


i got mine at auto zone. cost anywhere between 40 to 60 bucks. pretty easy to put on. hard to explain if not in person.

Is this something that you physically put on every time you get out of your car (like the Club)? Or do you install it one time and it works the minute you turn the car off?

Originally posted by dragontales
i have the autolock. anyone else use it? i guess its effective.

of course way better then the club which is useless cuz thieves can just cut the wheel.

Doesn't the Autolock still attach the the wheel? :bloated: If I'mthinking of the right thing, it locks between your steering wheel and brake pedal, right? I knew a girl that had one of those, but again, just like the Club, cut the wheel and you got the car. :rolleyes: So not really much different.

Originally posted by GSRGRL2


Hey thanks for the info! I don't know too much about security options-I do have an alarm but what good is that to someone who knows how to avoid them...like we are all saying? I have to look into something additional. I honestly didn't know what else there was out there. Thanks again! :D

Your welcome. Once I started really modding my car, I explorered into various different security alternative options, and how they could be implimented. What I went with is VERY effective, and would take a bit of time just to figure it out and get around it. So whenever I park my car now, I have 3 things in place, alarm, Club, and switch. I think I might take out extra insurance coverage for my mods though just as some extra piece of mind.

But like you mentioned, if a theif REALLY wants a car, they will get it, no matter what's in place. I heard of a car once (a Porsche of all cars) that was stolen while having 6 security devices in place. A Club, steering wheel cover shield thing, tranny shifter lock, alarm, kill switch and Lo Jack. ALL those things were bypassed, but the Lo-Jack got the car recovered. Now which of those 6 devices would be most worth while to have? ;)

Originally posted by SilverY2KCivic
Now which of those 6 devices would be most worth while to have? ;)

I take it Lo Jack is a tracking system? And how much do those things run? :confused: I'm afraid to know. If this Autolock thing is something I have to put in place everytime I get out of my car, I don't think I will look into it. And what about this switch thing you are talking about? Where/who/how much? What could I hook it up to and is there like an actual toggle switch I would position (concealed obviously)? I called my friends up at this car audio/alarm place yesterday and the only thing they could offer me is a backup siren. It pretty much hooks to whatever you want it to, i.e. alarm wires, fuse, etc...and whenever those are cut or tampered with, the backup siren will go off. But they didn't know anything about a switch-that they could hook up for me anyways. ??? All of a sudden I'm more interested in security than mods! Kind of scary!

well we've established that no car is safe anymore. except your uncle franks pinto cuz no one wants to steal that but at least you could make it harder than cutting the steering wheel for them to steal your car. and i don't think that autolock thing goes onto the steering wheel. i think it just keeps the brake/clutch pedal up and they would have to cut either the autolock which is metal or the brake/clutch pedal which would be very stupid. lol. i'm gonna go look into that though

Originally posted by liquid8
well we've established that no car is safe anymore. except your uncle franks pinto cuz no one wants to steal that but at least you could make it harder than cutting the steering wheel for them to steal your car. and i don't think that autolock thing goes onto the steering wheel. i think it just keeps the brake/clutch pedal up and they would have to cut either the autolock which is metal or the brake/clutch pedal which would be very stupid. lol. i'm gonna go look into that though

yes are you correct. the autolock has nothing to do with the steering wheel. it's locks on either to your brake or clutch so that it cannot be pressed down. most modern cars (duno about 1990 or older) you must step on the brake in order to put it into drive. so the thief will either have to cut the brake pedal off which is pretty dumb, or spend time cutting the autolock off which is solid metal.

yes you have to put it on and off everytime you park the car. but i usually only put it on at night time when i know i wont be driving my car for the rest of the night or if i am at an area where i dont feel like it is too safe.

The Lo-Jack system runs about $500. If you go to the website it will tell you about the system and the price ussually there are several dealers around the area that install them. They are not available in every area because police don't have the ability to track them. But the areas that they are available are high theft areas like new york new jersey and some other states ...again you'll have to look at the website. I think its the best thing. And I think it's worth it. It's sort of like a home alarm system. When your car gets moved or broken into then they will call your cell or home, page you, send you an email....there are like 5 different ways you can choose all if you like. And you call them and let them know if its a false alarm or if your car has been stolen. Once that happens the police get a signal from the tracking unit and they can ussually recover the car in less than an hour. If you ask me its a great invention.

Well, personally I hate aftermarket alarms. Every damn one I've seen has completely screwed over the electrical system. I personally like that club type thing for your clutch pedal. It would just take too damn long to steal. Any thief would just give up and move on. I am sure that a very good thief could do it, but someone that good isn't going to bother with my car. They are going to go after something like a nice BMW or Porsche. There is also the I-Lock, which works pretty well. Also, get good coverage from a good insurance company.

Originally posted by GSRGRL2


I take it Lo Jack is a tracking system? And how much do those things run? :confused: I'm afraid to know. If this Autolock thing is something I have to put in place everytime I get out of my car, I don't think I will look into it. And what about this switch thing you are talking about? Where/who/how much? What could I hook it up to and is there like an actual toggle switch I would position (concealed obviously)? I called my friends up at this car audio/alarm place yesterday and the only thing they could offer me is a backup siren. It pretty much hooks to whatever you want it to, i.e. alarm wires, fuse, etc...and whenever those are cut or tampered with, the backup siren will go off. But they didn't know anything about a switch-that they could hook up for me anyways. ??? All of a sudden I'm more interested in security than mods! Kind of scary!

Yes, Lo-Jack is a tracking device that police departents all over the country use to track and recover cars. Only thing about it is they can't track it till they get the call in that it's stolen and has the Lo Jack on it. So if 2 hours have gone by since it was stolen and you realize it, that's 2 hours they have to do whatever with your car. Usually they won't strip it in that little of time. Still a good investment. It costs about $600 at most places that sell it.

As for the switch, I'm talking about a kill switch. If you do it yourself, only costs involved is that of the switch and the wire you use to go to it. As for the type of switch, I use a toggle style, but it's really all up to what kind you prefer to use, although a heavy duty toggle is probably best, as you wouldn't want it to accidently open the circuit and cause your car to shut off while going down the highway. And use something that's rated at like 30A, otherwise if you hook it to source with more power than the switch is rated it, it could make the switch inoperable and cause it to malfunction. You can feel free to PM me about it if you want more info on it, as I'd rather not tell on the open forums for obvious reasons.

Originally posted by SilverY2KCivic


Yes, Lo-Jack is a tracking device that police departents all over the country use to track and recover cars. Only thing about it is they can't track it till they get the call in that it's stolen and has the Lo Jack on it. So if 2 hours have gone by since it was stolen and you realize it, that's 2 hours they have to do whatever with your car.



That is why Lo-Jack has an early warnging system that will page, call, email..you when your car alarm goes off or when the car is moved. It lets you know within 15 min....so you can go look and call the police. The police can them be notified and they can be tracking the vehicle within a half an hour. So that's cool!!

I'd like to know more about those switches.....jbman3179@hotmail.com

They can really email you? I wonder what the subject of the email would be?

"YOUR GETTING FUCKED GET TO YOUR CAR" from :Your friendly neiborhood lojack operator

Personally I would get a proximity alarm, whenever someone gets within a preset distance, the alarm goes off, its brilliant, they never get to touch your car. Alos, pulling the starter relay from under the hood is a sure way to know that noone will steal your car unless they have a flatbed towtruck.

Originally posted by V00D00
"YOUR GETTING FUCKED GET TO YOUR CAR" from :Your friendly neiborhood lojack operator

HaHa! That's funny! Or..."RE: YO...Your shit is getting stolen!" Heehee. I'm curious to know that honestly because I used to get a lot of spam and I wouldn't even open it-I would just delete it. So they probably have some clever subject they would send it with. HHmmmm.

Originally posted by GSRGRL2


HaHa! That's funny! Or..."RE: YO...Your shit is getting stolen!" Heehee. I'm curious to know that honestly because I used to get a lot of spam and I wouldn't even open it-I would just delete it. So they probably have some clever subject they would send it with. HHmmmm.

If it's about your car, you'll probably open and read it no matter what anyways. ;)

Pulling the starter fuse is a good anti-theft measure, but my kill switch I made myself, you'd still need a flatbad anyways to get my car. :cool:

a switch would be your best idea overall.

If somebody wants your car bad enough they will get it no matter what you have for anti-theft. Lo-jack I hear is good for relocating your car. A cheap way to protect your ride from being started is by installing a single-pole(kill switch) & hiding it or even pull a fuse.

If you plan to install a "kill switch" you will need a single pole toggle switch. Try to stick with a metal, not the plastic junk. Single pole switches has 2 connections. Your basically adding the switch into the circut to break it, works just like a light switch in your house. Connect to the negative wire & your set. Ignition is your best bet. Find the white/blue wire going to your ignition coil.

diconnect the negative coil wire
splice the neg. coil wire
run to switch
run another wire back to the negative side of the coil.

i was checking out the wiring diagrams and i did this little trick on my honda if you own a honda or possibly acrua that is a manual you can take the yellow plug on the top of your clutch pedal and make sure you have the right one, splice the two wires and connect them both to the switch...when the switch is off you cant start the car even with the key. and if the switch is on you can start the car with out depressing the clutch. works for me and i figured it may be something neat for yall? peace!

and if the switch is on you can start the car with out depressing the clutch.

Just make sure the car in NOT in gear when starting without the clutch.

One thing to remember when doing this, is that YOU are LIABLE for any damages....Say your car was in for work & they started your car in gear & it hit something like a toolbox ... YOU PAY!!!!!!

Is that was really worth it.

Someone rigged a remote start on a manual civic & the tech thought it was an alarm . . . crushed his tool box & the front of the car. Not only did the customer have to pay for the toolbox(brand new Snap-On), they also paid for the car repairs, towing, etc.

i was wondering my uncle had on his drag car that he can take off his steering wheel and that would make a car harder to steal but i dont know if you can do it to integras plus if they want to bring their own steering wheel to steal my car go ahead

Quick release steering wheels are made for racing. Im not to sure I would use on on the street. You can do it to any car, you will need an aftermarket steering & the quick release hub.

This is kinda a story and a suggestion
One of the funniest and simple mods I have seen done and it was on accident was on my friends '90 Integra. What he did is his door handle on the inside were broken so he had them rewired with some steel wiring and they hang out underneath the handle or somewere near them. So you would be pulling on this steel wire to open the door. Well one night some little kid came and decided to brake into the car. How he got in we dont know maybe we just plainly left the doors unlocked or half open who knows. Anyways the kid got into the car and well couldnt find a way out cause he didnt know about the wire to open the door. So the next morning he walks out of his car and finds a little kid in his car with his tweeters and a pair of wire cutters in his hand. Pretty amazing that a by simply rewiring your door handles no one can get in, Well that way at least.

best anti-theft? DRIVE A COMPLETE P.O.S......LISTEN TO A CRAPPY 8 TRACK WITH BUSTED SPEAKERS AND THROW CHEAP HOUSE SPEAKERS IN YOUR TRUNK,AND BLOW SMOKE OUT YOUR EXHUAST PIPE ADDED WITH A LOUD CLANKING SOUND,WAL MART PAINT JOB AN RUSTED RIMS.....BUT EVEN THAT DOESNT HELP CUZ I SEEN A P.O.S 86 MERC COUGAR GET BROKEN INTO(WHICH IS SAD)ALARMS DO WORK SOMEWHAT,INSURANCE IS THE BEST PROTECTION(UNLESS YOU HAVE A FIREARM PERMIT)AN LO JACK WILL JUST ADD TO THE PAIN OF LOOKING AT YOUR BABY IN RUINS INFRONT OF YOU :(

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and out of all of the anti theft ideas the only one id try is the lo jack.
Ive had my car broken into twice. I locked my doors and also never cranked my system before i parked. It didnt matter. if i had the money id go with lo-jack. Both those times I was in a posistion where i had no way to get to my car and it was out of my sight.I would have really liked to have an extra set of eyes and ears.


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That story kicks ass. Id love to wake up in the morning have myself a bowl of capNcrunch and have a good grand theft auto style beatdown on some little punk stuck in my car.

One thing though,why didnt the kid just break the window?

Haha, Mang, I hear u on that one. We where lanning at my friendz brotherz PC Cafe, IPX, and just walked outta da place at 7am ready to go take a shower then get back to open at 10 and see a teenager with His Tweeters and Wire Cutters, that kid didnt have fun that nite. Why the kid didnt break the window. I dont know. NEwayz.. good times ^^

Put a loud ass alarm on it. Keep a pistol next to your bed.Yyou hear it go oof and run to your window. See some mofoz tryin to break in. Pull out your pistol and just start shootin, scare the shit out of em.

Another good way to keep your baby safe is put it in a garage and close the door with keypad lock :iceslolan

Put a loud ass alarm on it. Keep a pistol next to your bed.Yyou hear it go oof and run to your window. See some mofoz tryin to break in. Pull out your pistol and just start shootin, scare the shit out of em.

:rolleyes:

"I say get a paging alarm system with a professional, CUSTOM install, and insure everything"

exactly...

it's a bit of an initial outlay, but i have one myself and i don't worry about leaving the car anywhere anymore



:smile:

I think 2 hidden kill switches is still the best way! $5 or $6 :bigthumb: