Physics Question: Thrust Angle
RidingOnRailz
11-01-2011, 07:31 AM
Assume all things are equal: Same make, same year, same model car, all alignment specs and actual alignments as close to each other as possible.
The difference: One car's rear axle Thrust Angle is 1/2deg NEGATIVE(to the left) and the other's Thrust Angle is 1/2deg POSITIVE(to the right).
To which side will each car pull?
The difference: One car's rear axle Thrust Angle is 1/2deg NEGATIVE(to the left) and the other's Thrust Angle is 1/2deg POSITIVE(to the right).
To which side will each car pull?
maxwedge
11-01-2011, 09:05 AM
Based on my experience doing alignments, in practice, 1/2 degree would not cause a pull. But on paper a neg t'angle would cause a pull to the right, it would have to be more than 1/2 degree to do that.
RidingOnRailz
11-01-2011, 12:35 PM
Based on my experience doing alignments, in practice, 1/2 degree would not cause a pull. But on paper a neg t'angle would cause a pull to the right, it would have to be more than 1/2 degree to do that.
That confirms what I thought. Because the rear-end wants to go left it steers the front-end rightward. On my actual car the last TA reading I had was -.02deg. 1/50th of one degree! Pretty much arrow straight.
My Kia's steering wheel must be held slightly "negative"-to the left(learned that one from the NASCAR in-ride graphics during a race) when driving down the street to counter the effect of road crown. I consider that normal.
That confirms what I thought. Because the rear-end wants to go left it steers the front-end rightward. On my actual car the last TA reading I had was -.02deg. 1/50th of one degree! Pretty much arrow straight.
My Kia's steering wheel must be held slightly "negative"-to the left(learned that one from the NASCAR in-ride graphics during a race) when driving down the street to counter the effect of road crown. I consider that normal.
maxwedge
11-01-2011, 02:58 PM
A 4 wheel alignmernt will get the wheel dead straight.
RidingOnRailz
11-01-2011, 04:53 PM
A 4 wheel alignmernt will get the wheel dead straight.
I recently had parts replaced and a 4-wheel performed. I'm not gonna cry over 1/50th of a degree(.02) of thrust angle. Better than the .18 I brought the car in with. LOL! I'm sure there's alot worse out there on the road right now.
One, maybe two degrees out on a lot of the vehicles around me, primarily because people abuse their rides and secondly because most wheel alignments performed are still front-wheel! Cheapskate car owners.
And for reasons I stated above I expect to have to apply a slight amount of left steering to counter the crown of the road I'm on. A mild drift to the right is acceptable - not a pull. BTW my steering wheel is straight when I let go.
I recently had parts replaced and a 4-wheel performed. I'm not gonna cry over 1/50th of a degree(.02) of thrust angle. Better than the .18 I brought the car in with. LOL! I'm sure there's alot worse out there on the road right now.
One, maybe two degrees out on a lot of the vehicles around me, primarily because people abuse their rides and secondly because most wheel alignments performed are still front-wheel! Cheapskate car owners.
And for reasons I stated above I expect to have to apply a slight amount of left steering to counter the crown of the road I'm on. A mild drift to the right is acceptable - not a pull. BTW my steering wheel is straight when I let go.
maxwedge
11-01-2011, 07:29 PM
All sounds well. LOL
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