steering clunk
davecross1
09-12-2011, 09:43 AM
Hi guys! There is a new kit on ebay that bolts on and eliminates the clunking in the steering on the 02-08 chevys. It just bolts on and only takes about 10 min! You can look it up by typing in CHEVY STEERING CLUNK REPAIR>
j cAT
09-13-2011, 09:36 AM
Hi guys! There is a new kit on ebay that bolts on and eliminates the clunking in the steering on the 02-08 chevys. It just bolts on and only takes about 10 min! You can look it up by typing in CHEVY STEERING CLUNK REPAIR>
this issue is resolved by lubing the ISS....much cheaper ....also I did this back in 2001 still no clunking...
this issue is resolved by lubing the ISS....much cheaper ....also I did this back in 2001 still no clunking...
davecross1
09-15-2011, 05:36 PM
The shafts I am covering dont go back to 01, but thanks for the input.
davecross1
09-15-2011, 05:56 PM
I saw somewhere on here where it was called a scam, its not a scam, just a red blooded american trying to sell a good product. And to be specific on what it is-gives it away but here you go. Its a heavy duty split steering collar that has been modified by welding contact points on the I.D. to slightly distort the shafts roundness enough to eliminate the play in the splines, but not so much as to damage the shaft. Hope this clears up any questions, Thanks.
j cAT
09-15-2011, 06:38 PM
The shafts I am covering dont go back to 01, but thanks for the input.
the 2001-2006 should be the same part ..for the ISS....................
2007 on up not sure ...
but anyway the TSB on these is to lube it..I agree with this as the solution////unless it was beaten.......
cheap easy fix on these 2001-2006 vehicles.
the 2001-2006 should be the same part ..for the ISS....................
2007 on up not sure ...
but anyway the TSB on these is to lube it..I agree with this as the solution////unless it was beaten.......
cheap easy fix on these 2001-2006 vehicles.
gmtech79
09-15-2011, 07:50 PM
Not to be a troll but the latest TSB has us replacing the I-shafts with a updated design. I have had 0 comebacks with the latest redesign, though thank God I think we have all of them takin care of in my area.
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j cAT
09-16-2011, 07:57 AM
Not to be a troll but the latest TSB has us replacing the I-shafts with a updated design. I have had 0 comebacks with the latest redesign, though thank God I think we have all of them takin care of in my area.
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what is the TSB number ? what years involved ? GM part number ?
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what is the TSB number ? what years involved ? GM part number ?
ukrkoz
09-16-2011, 11:58 AM
omg, they have never ever fixed the darn steering shafts? what a travesty
anyhow. permanent fix is to install a zerk into the flattened piece of ISS, right above the 15mm bolt, then pump it with quality lube. takes about 15 minutes to install and costs few bucks, unless you have to buy extra tools for it.
anyhow. permanent fix is to install a zerk into the flattened piece of ISS, right above the 15mm bolt, then pump it with quality lube. takes about 15 minutes to install and costs few bucks, unless you have to buy extra tools for it.
ukrkoz
09-16-2011, 01:19 PM
The only issue i can see is if the splines are worn badly, it may not cure it or may have to be maintained more frequently.
First, open the hood and turn the steering so the connecting bolt (about 12 inches from the firewall) is positioned with the head pionted up.
You will need a hammer, centerpunch, 1/8" & 7/32" drillbits, drill, a 1/4x20 thread tap and handle, a grease fitting with 1/4" thread and a grease gun.
I used a multipurpose chassis grease with 40% Molybendum content.
First centerpunch then drill a 1/8" pilot hole at the top of the flat above the bolt head , then open the hole with the 7/32" drill bit as shown.
http://www.gmtruckclub.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2707&stc=1&d=1241961535
Next using the 1/4" tap, cut a thread in the hole(as shown below) but only cut about half way up the tapered tip of the tap so when incerting the nipple it will be very tight. It is ok if u cut a full thread, the nipple may not tighten as securely.
http://www.gmtruckclub.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2709&stc=1&d=1241964714
Next incert and tighten the grease nipple in the hole, Be careful not to over tighten.
It should look like below.
http://www.gmtruckclub.com/forum/attachments/f17741/2710d1241972898-steering-clunk-rattle-gedc0020.jpg
http://www.gmtruckclub.com/forum/attachments/f17741/2711d1241972898-steering-clunk-rattle-gedc0021.jpg
Last step, pump atleast 30- 40 shots of grease into the fitting, then drive it 50 miles or so and pay attention to weather the noise comes back. If so pump another 30 shots of grease into the column.
This should eliminate the noise and give the steering a bit smoother feel.
You may add a few shots of grease to the column when and if the noise returns , to maintain lubrication in the spline.
Notes: It will take about 100 shots of grease or 3/4 of a tube and the grease will start coming out of the bottom of the column at the steering box end. I may sujest to disconnect the column at the location shown in the pictures and plug the upper portion below the grease nipple, then pump in the grease. It will require less grease and will put a bit of grease pressure in the tube which will prolong the time between maintenancing the spline but is not nessesary. I packed a rag in the bottom of the column when the grease started to come out and put pressure on the rag with a small prybar to create some pressure but it was not nessesary to complete the modification.
UPDATE: JUST AT THE TIME I WAS FINISHED THIS MOD, ONE OF THE GUYS I WORK WITH TOLD ME THAT HE DID THIS MOD TO HIS 03 gmc TRUCK 5 MONTHS EARLIER. HE WENT FOR ONE RIDE, REGREASED AND HAS NOT HAD TO TOUCH IT SINCE. HAS OVER 6000 MILES SINCE THEN AND IT IS STILL QUIET.
Try it at own risk, if u are not confident that you can complete this task, get a shop to do it for you.
Post your results and updates for all to see, good or bad.
Thanks and good luck, hope this works for you as well.
skinner (Deryk) (http://www.gmtruckclub.com/forum/showthread.php?22312-Steering-clunk-fix)
First, open the hood and turn the steering so the connecting bolt (about 12 inches from the firewall) is positioned with the head pionted up.
You will need a hammer, centerpunch, 1/8" & 7/32" drillbits, drill, a 1/4x20 thread tap and handle, a grease fitting with 1/4" thread and a grease gun.
I used a multipurpose chassis grease with 40% Molybendum content.
First centerpunch then drill a 1/8" pilot hole at the top of the flat above the bolt head , then open the hole with the 7/32" drill bit as shown.
http://www.gmtruckclub.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2707&stc=1&d=1241961535
Next using the 1/4" tap, cut a thread in the hole(as shown below) but only cut about half way up the tapered tip of the tap so when incerting the nipple it will be very tight. It is ok if u cut a full thread, the nipple may not tighten as securely.
http://www.gmtruckclub.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2709&stc=1&d=1241964714
Next incert and tighten the grease nipple in the hole, Be careful not to over tighten.
It should look like below.
http://www.gmtruckclub.com/forum/attachments/f17741/2710d1241972898-steering-clunk-rattle-gedc0020.jpg
http://www.gmtruckclub.com/forum/attachments/f17741/2711d1241972898-steering-clunk-rattle-gedc0021.jpg
Last step, pump atleast 30- 40 shots of grease into the fitting, then drive it 50 miles or so and pay attention to weather the noise comes back. If so pump another 30 shots of grease into the column.
This should eliminate the noise and give the steering a bit smoother feel.
You may add a few shots of grease to the column when and if the noise returns , to maintain lubrication in the spline.
Notes: It will take about 100 shots of grease or 3/4 of a tube and the grease will start coming out of the bottom of the column at the steering box end. I may sujest to disconnect the column at the location shown in the pictures and plug the upper portion below the grease nipple, then pump in the grease. It will require less grease and will put a bit of grease pressure in the tube which will prolong the time between maintenancing the spline but is not nessesary. I packed a rag in the bottom of the column when the grease started to come out and put pressure on the rag with a small prybar to create some pressure but it was not nessesary to complete the modification.
UPDATE: JUST AT THE TIME I WAS FINISHED THIS MOD, ONE OF THE GUYS I WORK WITH TOLD ME THAT HE DID THIS MOD TO HIS 03 gmc TRUCK 5 MONTHS EARLIER. HE WENT FOR ONE RIDE, REGREASED AND HAS NOT HAD TO TOUCH IT SINCE. HAS OVER 6000 MILES SINCE THEN AND IT IS STILL QUIET.
Try it at own risk, if u are not confident that you can complete this task, get a shop to do it for you.
Post your results and updates for all to see, good or bad.
Thanks and good luck, hope this works for you as well.
skinner (Deryk) (http://www.gmtruckclub.com/forum/showthread.php?22312-Steering-clunk-fix)
Scrapper
09-16-2011, 01:43 PM
Hi guys! There is a new kit on ebay that bolts on and eliminates the clunking in the steering on the 02-08 chevys. It just bolts on and only takes about 10 min! You can look it up by typing in CHEVY STEERING CLUNK REPAIR>
yah my wife went a bought 2006 malibu not even letting me know it they kept telling her there was know clunk so i went and told dealer there is a clunk we got in car went about 2 foot and clunk and they wanted to pull that grease crap i said no your putting a new wrack in it needless to say they done it. when i retired from being a alignment man helped i guess.
yah my wife went a bought 2006 malibu not even letting me know it they kept telling her there was know clunk so i went and told dealer there is a clunk we got in car went about 2 foot and clunk and they wanted to pull that grease crap i said no your putting a new wrack in it needless to say they done it. when i retired from being a alignment man helped i guess.
gmtech79
09-16-2011, 09:17 PM
what is the tsb number ? What years involved ? Gm part number ?
tsb# 00-02-35-003n
Applies to 2002-2006 GMT800's and some 07's.
GM p/n:19153614
tsb# 00-02-35-003n
Applies to 2002-2006 GMT800's and some 07's.
GM p/n:19153614
j cAT
09-17-2011, 08:27 AM
tsb# 00-02-35-003n
Applies to 2002-2006 GMT800's and some 07's.
GM p/n:19153614
thanks for that info ...
and here is the details:
Service InformationDocument ID # 836280
Clunking Noise Under Hood and can be felt in the Steering Wheel (Lubricate
Intermediate Steering Shaft Assembly) #00-02-35-003A
Clunking Noise Under Hood and can be felt in the Steering Wheel (Lubricate
Intermediate Steering Shaft Assembly)
1999-2002 Chevrolet and GMC C/K Pickup Models (Silverado and Sierra)
2000-2002 Chevrolet and GMC C/K Utility Models (Suburban, Tahoe, Yukon, Yukon
XL)
With Recirculating Ball-Type Steering
This bulletin is being revised to add model years and include a new service
procedure. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 00-02-35-003 (Section 02 --
Steering).
Condition
Some customers may comment on a clunk type noise coming from under the hood that
also can be felt in the steering wheel. These conditions may be more noticeable
when turning at low speeds on rough road surfaces.
Correction
Important
DO NOT REPLACE THE FOLLOWING INTERMEDIATE STEERING SHAFT P/Ns
26085548
26049343
26083324
26088325
Remove the intermediate shaft from the vehicle and lubricate the intermediate
shaft with a Steering Column Intermediate Shaft Lubrication Kit, P/N 26098419.
Follow the service procedure below.
Set the front wheels in the straight-ahead position.
Set the steering wheel in the LOCK position.
From inside the vehicle, remove the upper bolt from the upper intermediate
steering shaft (1) to the steering column connection.
From under the hood, remove the lower bolt that connects the upper
intermediate shaft to the steering gear coupling shaft.
Remove the upper intermediate steering shaft assembly.
From inside the vehicle, slide the shaft down and off the steering column
shaft.
From under the hood, slide the shaft towards the dash in order to disengage
the shaft from the steering gear coupling shaft.
From inside the vehicle, slide the upper intermediate shaft through the dash
boot seal and remove the shaft from the vehicle.
Remove the spacer clip from the end of the intermediate shaft with a pair of
needle nose pliers.
Fully extend the shaft by pulling the two shafts apart.
Apply the syringe of grease supplied in the Steering Column Intermediate Shaft
Lubrication Kit, P/N 26098419, into the open end of the shaft. Direct the
syringe tip as deep as possible into the shaft and dispense the full content
of the syringe.
Insert the plug supplied in the Steering Column Intermediate Shaft Lubrication
Kit into the open end of the shaft and finger tighten the wing nut.
Place the plugged end of the shaft on a hard surface and apply pressure to
collapse the shaft and dissipate the grease through the shaft.
Remove the plug from the shaft and fully extend the shaft.
Inspect the shaft for a minimum of 13 mm (1/2 in) of grease on the shaft
splines.
Repeat steps 10-12 if less than 13 mm (1/2 in) of grease is on shaft splines.
Clean the excess grease off of the shaft splines and around the shaft opening.
Carefully spread apart the spacer clip with a pair of pliers.
Reinstall the spacer clip into the open end of the shaft.
Align the spacer clip with the stakes in the shaft.
Reinstall the upper intermediate steering shaft through the dash boot seal and
slide the lower end into the steering gear coupling shaft.
Raise the upper end of the intermediate steering shaft and install into the
steering column shaft.
Install the upper bolt and nut. Tighten
Tighten the bolt to 47 N·m(35 lb ft).
Install the lower bolt and nut. Tighten
Tighten the bolt to 50 N·m(37 lb ft).
Parts Information
Part NumberDescriptionQty
26098419Lubrication Kit, Steering Column Intermediate Shaft1
Parts are expected to be available 12-17-2001 from GMSPO.
latest to my knowledge as GM has a dozen or so TSB'S on this issue these are the years and vehicles affected..
Make / Models:
Model/Build Years:
CADILLAC / ESCALADE
2002-2006
CADILLAC / ESCALADE EXT
2002-2003
CHEVROLET / AVALANCHE
2002-2004
CHEVROLET / AVALANCHE 1500
2005-2006
CHEVROLET / AVALANCHE 2500
2005-2006
CHEVROLET / SIERRA
1999-2003
CHEVROLET / SILVERADO
1999-2006
CHEVROLET / SILVERADO 1500
2007
CHEVROLET / SILVERADO 2500
2007
CHEVROLET / SILVERADO 3500
2007
CHEVROLET / SUBURBAN
2000-2005
CHEVROLET / SUBURBAN 1500
2006
CHEVROLET / SUBURBAN 2500
2006
CHEVROLET / TAHOE
2000-2006
CHEVROLET / YUKON
2000-2003
GMC / SIERRA
2004-2006
GMC / SIERRA 1500
2007
GMC / SIERRA 2500
2007
GMC / SIERRA 3500
2007
GMC / YUKON
2004-2006
HUMMER / H2
2003-2006
Service Bulletin Number:
000235003
NHTSA Item Number:
10012089
Applies to 2002-2006 GMT800's and some 07's.
GM p/n:19153614
thanks for that info ...
and here is the details:
Service InformationDocument ID # 836280
Clunking Noise Under Hood and can be felt in the Steering Wheel (Lubricate
Intermediate Steering Shaft Assembly) #00-02-35-003A
Clunking Noise Under Hood and can be felt in the Steering Wheel (Lubricate
Intermediate Steering Shaft Assembly)
1999-2002 Chevrolet and GMC C/K Pickup Models (Silverado and Sierra)
2000-2002 Chevrolet and GMC C/K Utility Models (Suburban, Tahoe, Yukon, Yukon
XL)
With Recirculating Ball-Type Steering
This bulletin is being revised to add model years and include a new service
procedure. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 00-02-35-003 (Section 02 --
Steering).
Condition
Some customers may comment on a clunk type noise coming from under the hood that
also can be felt in the steering wheel. These conditions may be more noticeable
when turning at low speeds on rough road surfaces.
Correction
Important
DO NOT REPLACE THE FOLLOWING INTERMEDIATE STEERING SHAFT P/Ns
26085548
26049343
26083324
26088325
Remove the intermediate shaft from the vehicle and lubricate the intermediate
shaft with a Steering Column Intermediate Shaft Lubrication Kit, P/N 26098419.
Follow the service procedure below.
Set the front wheels in the straight-ahead position.
Set the steering wheel in the LOCK position.
From inside the vehicle, remove the upper bolt from the upper intermediate
steering shaft (1) to the steering column connection.
From under the hood, remove the lower bolt that connects the upper
intermediate shaft to the steering gear coupling shaft.
Remove the upper intermediate steering shaft assembly.
From inside the vehicle, slide the shaft down and off the steering column
shaft.
From under the hood, slide the shaft towards the dash in order to disengage
the shaft from the steering gear coupling shaft.
From inside the vehicle, slide the upper intermediate shaft through the dash
boot seal and remove the shaft from the vehicle.
Remove the spacer clip from the end of the intermediate shaft with a pair of
needle nose pliers.
Fully extend the shaft by pulling the two shafts apart.
Apply the syringe of grease supplied in the Steering Column Intermediate Shaft
Lubrication Kit, P/N 26098419, into the open end of the shaft. Direct the
syringe tip as deep as possible into the shaft and dispense the full content
of the syringe.
Insert the plug supplied in the Steering Column Intermediate Shaft Lubrication
Kit into the open end of the shaft and finger tighten the wing nut.
Place the plugged end of the shaft on a hard surface and apply pressure to
collapse the shaft and dissipate the grease through the shaft.
Remove the plug from the shaft and fully extend the shaft.
Inspect the shaft for a minimum of 13 mm (1/2 in) of grease on the shaft
splines.
Repeat steps 10-12 if less than 13 mm (1/2 in) of grease is on shaft splines.
Clean the excess grease off of the shaft splines and around the shaft opening.
Carefully spread apart the spacer clip with a pair of pliers.
Reinstall the spacer clip into the open end of the shaft.
Align the spacer clip with the stakes in the shaft.
Reinstall the upper intermediate steering shaft through the dash boot seal and
slide the lower end into the steering gear coupling shaft.
Raise the upper end of the intermediate steering shaft and install into the
steering column shaft.
Install the upper bolt and nut. Tighten
Tighten the bolt to 47 N·m(35 lb ft).
Install the lower bolt and nut. Tighten
Tighten the bolt to 50 N·m(37 lb ft).
Parts Information
Part NumberDescriptionQty
26098419Lubrication Kit, Steering Column Intermediate Shaft1
Parts are expected to be available 12-17-2001 from GMSPO.
latest to my knowledge as GM has a dozen or so TSB'S on this issue these are the years and vehicles affected..
Make / Models:
Model/Build Years:
CADILLAC / ESCALADE
2002-2006
CADILLAC / ESCALADE EXT
2002-2003
CHEVROLET / AVALANCHE
2002-2004
CHEVROLET / AVALANCHE 1500
2005-2006
CHEVROLET / AVALANCHE 2500
2005-2006
CHEVROLET / SIERRA
1999-2003
CHEVROLET / SILVERADO
1999-2006
CHEVROLET / SILVERADO 1500
2007
CHEVROLET / SILVERADO 2500
2007
CHEVROLET / SILVERADO 3500
2007
CHEVROLET / SUBURBAN
2000-2005
CHEVROLET / SUBURBAN 1500
2006
CHEVROLET / SUBURBAN 2500
2006
CHEVROLET / TAHOE
2000-2006
CHEVROLET / YUKON
2000-2003
GMC / SIERRA
2004-2006
GMC / SIERRA 1500
2007
GMC / SIERRA 2500
2007
GMC / SIERRA 3500
2007
GMC / YUKON
2004-2006
HUMMER / H2
2003-2006
Service Bulletin Number:
000235003
NHTSA Item Number:
10012089
gmtech79
09-17-2011, 03:34 PM
No that is a revision A TSB the one I posted is N. It has been through so many revisions. They want the I-shaft replaced with the P/N I posted above now and NOT lubricated
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j cAT
09-17-2011, 07:23 PM
No that is a revision A TSB the one I posted is N. It has been through so many revisions. They want the I-shaft replaced with the P/N I posted above now and NOT lubricated
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ya I know that was "A" tsb on that number..like I stated GM has made about 12 revisions with this issue... the latest is the N tsb with that number.
as all can see this effects more than the 2002 vehicles that you stated in your earlier post ...
so for a decade GM did nothing about the poor fitting ISS !
now they come out with a part that fits correctly..
Sent from my Droid X. Typos probable.
ya I know that was "A" tsb on that number..like I stated GM has made about 12 revisions with this issue... the latest is the N tsb with that number.
as all can see this effects more than the 2002 vehicles that you stated in your earlier post ...
so for a decade GM did nothing about the poor fitting ISS !
now they come out with a part that fits correctly..
gmtech79
09-17-2011, 07:34 PM
ya I know that was "A" tsb on that number..like I stated GM has made about 12 revisions with this issue... the latest is the N tsb with that number.
as all can see this effects more than the 2002 vehicles that you stated in your earlier post ...
so for a decade GM did nothing about the poor fitting ISS !
now they come out with a part that fits correctly..
So why did you copy and paste the old (first) TSB? Are you using SI or something else?
Reread my post. I never said 2002. It applies to 2002-2006 and some 2007's.
Sent from my Droid X. Typos probable.
as all can see this effects more than the 2002 vehicles that you stated in your earlier post ...
so for a decade GM did nothing about the poor fitting ISS !
now they come out with a part that fits correctly..
So why did you copy and paste the old (first) TSB? Are you using SI or something else?
Reread my post. I never said 2002. It applies to 2002-2006 and some 2007's.
Sent from my Droid X. Typos probable.
j cAT
09-17-2011, 11:37 PM
So why did you copy and paste the old (first) TSB? Are you using SI or something else?
Reread my post. I never said 2002. It applies to 2002-2006 and some 2007's.
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as you know TSB are not all that available. The one I had was the earlier "A" TSB. the "N" TSB I don't have the complete details . I did post however ALL the vehicles effected by the latest "N" TSB with this issue so IT DOES INCLUDE 1999-2007 silverado trucks.
ON first reading your response it only listed 2002. now I see it is including more years.
Reread my post. I never said 2002. It applies to 2002-2006 and some 2007's.
Sent from my Droid X. Typos probable.
as you know TSB are not all that available. The one I had was the earlier "A" TSB. the "N" TSB I don't have the complete details . I did post however ALL the vehicles effected by the latest "N" TSB with this issue so IT DOES INCLUDE 1999-2007 silverado trucks.
ON first reading your response it only listed 2002. now I see it is including more years.
j cAT
09-17-2011, 11:43 PM
So why did you copy and paste the old (first) TSB? Are you using SI or something else?
Reread my post. I never said 2002. It applies to 2002-2006 and some 2007's.
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this is what I got !
gmtech79 has just replied to a thread you have subscribed to entitled - steering clunk - in the Silverado forum of Automotive Forums .com Car Chat.
This thread is located at:
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***************
---Quote (Originally by j cat)---
what is the tsb number ? What years involved ? Gm part number ?
---End Quote---
tsb# 00-02-35-003n
2002
Reread my post. I never said 2002. It applies to 2002-2006 and some 2007's.
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this is what I got !
gmtech79 has just replied to a thread you have subscribed to entitled - steering clunk - in the Silverado forum of Automotive Forums .com Car Chat.
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***************
---Quote (Originally by j cat)---
what is the tsb number ? What years involved ? Gm part number ?
---End Quote---
tsb# 00-02-35-003n
2002
gmtech79
09-18-2011, 07:43 AM
Oh I see. When I originally posted that from my phone something happened and cut off part of my post.
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