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what is the legal lowest height a civic can be?


silver89civic
05-30-2003, 10:22 AM
as the heading said, how low can u be and still be in the legal side in California?
How do cops measure your height???

Melt
05-30-2003, 10:51 AM
I think its something like 22" from the center of the headlights to the ground.

Civic Jim
05-30-2003, 11:09 AM
in the UK it is illegal to lower your car more than 60mm (2.5")

but loadsa cars have it done :p

silver89civic
05-30-2003, 11:31 AM
thanks guys
the cop pulled me over yesterday, he said i noticed u got a modifiied exhaust, please open the HOOD. I opened and he said ok u are good, u got the aem sticker. then he said that banner u got it's illegal and those blue bulbs in your corner lights are illegal too. Then he told me that the bulbs have to be the same color as when they lite up. Then i went to have my fixative ticket sign off and another officer told me u know those are not the original tailights, u can't just take clear tailgihts and paint them red. Well, i used to have altezzas, and i just painted them red so now they look like the 97-2000 integra tailights, they are all red except the back up light that is white.

sorry for long post, im just frustrated. Cops love to harass hondas!
damn!!!! :zx11pisse

CRXtc
05-30-2003, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by silver89civic
thanks guys
the cop pulled me over yesterday, he said i noticed u got a modifiied exhaust, please open the HOOD. I opened and he said ok u are good, u got the aem sticker. then he said that banner u got it's illegal and those blue bulbs in your corner lights are illegal too. Then he told me that the bulbs have to be the same color as when they lite up. Then i went to have my fixative ticket sign off and another officer told me u know those are not the original tailights, u can't just take clear tailgihts and paint them red. Well, i used to have altezzas, and i just painted them red so now they look like the 97-2000 integra tailights, they are all red except the back up light that is white.

sorry for long post, im just frustrated. Cops love to harass hondas!
damn!!!! :zx11pisse


no cops love to harass RICE, if it is tastefully done and not an excessively loud exhaust you will be fine, first of all melt was right headlights have to be 22" from the ground and your license plate has to be 18" from the ground, the bumpers can't go below the lowest part on your rim ETC, the blue blubs ARE illegal and the altezzas ARE illegal being that they are most likely NOT DOT approved

Melt
05-30-2003, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by CRXtc
and your license plate has to be 18" from the ground

hmmm ... maybe I should measure it sometime ... my car isnt lowered, but I moved the plate

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid63/p1f520382c7e97b5de7e488f861cf344b/fc157675.jpg

crxlvr
05-30-2003, 02:47 PM
i never heard of the liscense plate height, but 22" is right for the headlights.


as far as the altezzas go, they are DOT approved thats why so many people have em, look for the number on the light. if the cop doesnt believe you, then ask him why altezzas are on new lexus's, mitsu evos', etc.

Jetts
05-30-2003, 02:53 PM
there is a drop limit?
never heard of that guess all my friends with civics and accords laying on the ground better raise that shit and oh all the minitrucks? i guess i better not lay out my truck cause it is illegal?

lol if a cop pulls me over be bein too low im going to ask him why he cares does it affect his life? does he have anything better to do?

fuck the cops

just a little something if you dont believe i wont ask that my dad is a cop and i rag on his ass all the time i ask him these questions and he says they do it cause they are assholes and have nothing better to do
so fuck that illegal height shit

oh we got pulled over in my friends 89 hatch with air cylinders and 17's and at the time we were half way up so we layed it out when we got pulled over and the cop thought it was cool, so the ones that pull you over for the damn height of your car are stupid.

sorry i hate this law

Melt
05-30-2003, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by crxlvr
as far as the altezzas go, they are DOT approved thats why so many people have em, look for the number on the light. if the cop doesnt believe you, then ask him why altezzas are on new lexus's, mitsu evos', etc.

wrong ... not all altezzas are dot approved ... my friends black housings on his integra werent

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid40/p7d4e749c88e81e68f57108f1aee4a9c8/fd0438f5.jpg

crxlvr
05-30-2003, 02:58 PM
even still, ask him the 2nd part of my post.

CRXtc
05-30-2003, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by crxlvr
i never heard of the liscense plate height, but 22" is right for the headlights.


as far as the altezzas go, they are DOT approved thats why so many people have em, look for the number on the light. if the cop doesnt believe you, then ask him why altezzas are on new lexus's, mitsu evos', etc.


because MITSH and LEXUS actually make sure that their lights meet DOT compliance, and as was previously stated NOT ALL altezzas are DOT approved, majority of them arent

mellowboy
05-30-2003, 03:10 PM
It must suck to live in cali. We have no drop limit here not that i know of atleast. I know we have a certain height to raise ur trucks like them big bronco trucks and pick up trucks:)

mellowboy
05-30-2003, 03:12 PM
Oh and about them altezzas. It depends whre u live at. Clear tails i know for sure are illegal cause the bulbs look pink. For altezzas its ok cause as long as u see red its all good. Atleast here in illinois is like that.

CRXtc
05-30-2003, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by mellowboy
Oh and about them altezzas. It depends whre u live at. Clear tails i know for sure are illegal cause the bulbs look pink. For altezzas its ok cause as long as u see red its all good. Atleast here in illinois is like that.


wrong, federal laws are the same in all 50 states

mellowboy
05-30-2003, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by CRXtc



wrong, federal laws are the same in all 50 states


Well i guess cops dont give 2 shits about em?

CRXtc
05-30-2003, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by mellowboy



Well i guess cops dont give 2 shits about em?


it depends on the officer, i mean since it is a violation that CAN pull you over and cite you for it, but usually (from my experience, i am not saying that this is how the police force works) they will not just pull you over for something that stupid, they will try to get you for multiple violations

Jetts
05-30-2003, 03:28 PM
i hate altezza tail lights only because on some of them the brake little is extremly small, i almost plowed some civic in my vibe cause i didnt even see he was braking cause of his shitty cheap altezza's wasnt too happy either cause i loved that car

CRXtc
05-30-2003, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by 96Hatch
i hate altezza tail lights only because on some of them the brake little is extremly small, i almost plowed some civic in my vibe cause i didnt even see he was braking cause of his shitty cheap altezza's wasnt too happy either cause i loved that car

yeah, homosexuals like altezzas a lot

Jetts
05-30-2003, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by CRXtc



it depends on the officer, i mean since it is a violation that CAN pull you over and cite you for it, but usually (from my experience, i am not saying that this is how the police force works) they will not just pull you over for something that stupid, they will try to get you for multiple violations


oh beleive me if the cops are big enough douches they will pull you over the stupidest shit
when we got pulled over in my friends hatch he pulled us over cause we looked suspicius and the cop flipped a bitch and went up the wrong side of the road to just pull us over and we are in a little hatch and he asks if we have any prostitutes and then he walks away

Jetts
05-30-2003, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by CRXtc


yeah, homosexuals like altezzas a lot


:bloated: wtf are you talkin about

CRXtc
05-30-2003, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by 96Hatch



:bloated: wtf are you talkin about


hahah dont tell me you dont know

Jetts
05-30-2003, 03:49 PM
Originally posted by CRXtc



hahah dont tell me you dont know


so you are calling me gay cause i hate on altezza's?
sorry i have better to taste to not ruin a vehicle with those worthless pos lights

CRXtc
05-30-2003, 04:01 PM
Originally posted by 96Hatch



so you are calling me gay cause i hate on altezza's?
sorry i have better to taste to not ruin a vehicle with those worthless pos lights

hahah oh no i think you are thinking the opposite, i said homosexuals are ATTRACTED to altezzas

Jetts
05-30-2003, 04:10 PM
Originally posted by CRXtc


hahah oh no i think you are thinking the opposite, i said homosexuals are ATTRACTED to altezzas


so im attracted to altezzas? i guess im not getting what you are getting at but whatever call me a homo all you want it is the internet im not going to get all pissy about it cause someone on the internet called me a homo

CRXtc
05-30-2003, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by 96Hatch



so im attracted to altezzas? i guess im not getting what you are getting at but whatever call me a homo all you want it is the internet im not going to get all pissy about it cause someone on the internet called me a homo


ok lets repeat this PEOPLE WHO LIKE (as in who would like to put altezzas on their car, people who think altezzas look COOL, people who think altezzas add power) ALTEZZAS ARE GAY.....is that clear?

Jetts
05-30-2003, 04:15 PM
whatever they are gay hence why i dont like them

Melt
05-30-2003, 04:15 PM
lmao at this thread!!

What he was sayin is homosexuals ae attracted to altezzas ... hence the reason you almost rear ended a car with them on.

CRXtc
05-30-2003, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by Melt
lmao at this thread!!

What he was sayin is homosexuals ae attracted to altezzas ... hence the reason you almost rear ended a car with them on.


wohoo someone understood what i said 3 times

Melt
05-30-2003, 04:40 PM
I laughed when I first read it ... and when I scrolled down I lauged some more http://www.illusiverides.com/forum/html/emoticons/lmao2.gif http://www.illusiverides.com/forum/html/emoticons/lmao2.gif

CRXtc
05-30-2003, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by Melt
I laughed when I first read it ... and when I scrolled down I lauged some more http://www.illusiverides.com/forum/html/emoticons/lmao2.gif http://www.illusiverides.com/forum/html/emoticons/lmao2.gif


bwahahahah word

AirAllen01
05-30-2003, 04:55 PM
No sir, I asked a Constable here in Texas and there is no law as to how far you can drop your car. Altezza taillights are a different story. As long as the BRAKE light part is red and the blinkers amber and the reverse white, then you're good to go.

CRXtc
05-30-2003, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by AirAllen01
No sir, I asked a Constable here in Texas and there is no law as to how far you can drop your car. Altezza taillights are a different story. As long as the BRAKE light part is red and the blinkers amber and the reverse white, then you're good to go.


how about you pull up the texas vehicle code that says that

mellowboy
05-30-2003, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by AirAllen01
Altezza taillights are a different story. As long as the BRAKE light part is red and the blinkers amber and the reverse white, then you're good to go.


Yeh thats what i've been told also.

crxlvr
05-30-2003, 06:07 PM
how much longer will the insanity last?

CRXtc
05-30-2003, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by crxlvr
how much longer will the insanity last?

till we die

crxlvr
05-30-2003, 06:14 PM
i guess so.

2000dollarZCbs
05-30-2003, 06:24 PM
this is for the california people. this is straight out of the vehicle code book that cops use.

frame and floor height
24008.5 (a) NO person shall operate any motor vehicle with a frame height or body height greater than specified in subdivisions (b) and (c)
(b) The maximum frame height is as follows:
Vehicle Type Frame Height
(1) passenger vehicles, except housecars 23 inches
(2) All other motor vehicles, including housecars, as
follows:
Up to 4,500 pounds GVWR 27 inches
4,501 to 7,500 pounds GVWR 30 inches
7,501 to 10,000 pounds GVWR 31 inches
(c) the lowest portion of the body floor shall not be more than five inches above the top of the frame.
(d) the following definitions govern the construction of this section:
(1) "Frame" means the main longituudinal structural members of the chassis of the vehicle or, for vehicles with unitized body construction, the lowest main longitudinal structural members of the body of the vehicle.
(2) "Frame height" means the vertical distance between the ground and the lowest point on the frame, measured when the vehicle in unladen on a level surface at the lowest point on the frame midway between the front axle and the second axle on the vehicle.
(3) "GVWR" means the manufacturer's gross vehicle weight rating, as defined in Section 390, wheather or not the vehicle is modified by use of parts not originally installed by the manufacturer.
amended ch. 718, stats. 1987. effective january 1, 1988.

crxlvr
05-30-2003, 06:26 PM
hey where did you get that info from, i wouldnt mind seeing some NY laws.

2000dollarZCbs
05-30-2003, 06:29 PM
the alteezas are argueable becuase in the vehicle code book it says:



(e) Taillamps shall be red IN COLOR and shall be plainly visible from all distances.


so you could argue that they are red in color, but they can turn around and say we mean red plastic.
whatever.

2000dollarZCbs
05-30-2003, 06:30 PM
i told you guys, i used to be a lifeguard and worked with a cop and he gave me a vehicle code book, i know how to get out of almost any ticket. hahahaha

2000dollarZCbs
05-30-2003, 06:38 PM
also most people dont think about this but you can order vehicle code books online



http://www.looseleaflaw.com/laws.asp

canned4thgen
05-30-2003, 06:54 PM
wonder what the limit is in pa.. just measured mine and i have 17.5 inches from headlight to ground and 7 inches from license plate to the ground

Cfmotorsports
05-30-2003, 07:24 PM
In SOuth Carolina it is against the law to lower any car at all, the only vehical that can legaly be lowered in SC is a truck and they have no restrictions on how low they can be.

Thank God they do not push that issue around here i would be in all kinds of trouble every car i have ever had was lowered, and the civic is tuckin 15's so ya know its low.


I hate laws that are made just to piss people off, and keep them from enjoying something that we all love lowered and sported out cars.

silver89civic
05-30-2003, 08:15 PM
2000dollarZCbs, thanks man for the link

hey where in huntingotn beach are u?
cuz im here in westminster, ca
my aim name is silver89civic on aol :) or u can send me an email at [email protected]

el_loco_civic
05-30-2003, 09:58 PM
i got altezzas, but they are for show. Im making a show car and not racing or more performance. And the theme of my car is Red,White and Black. So i got some Red and Clear Altezza's, just to go w/the paint job and show look. I dont know bout all that homo stuff.. to each its own i say..

and - AIRALLEN01 , what about them stock cars that only have brake lights and reverse, and the blinkers are the brake lights ? ? just pointin that out.

I dont know bout my laws here in ATLANTA yet, but i got to check that out b4 i start drivin round' w/ my air system ( im sposed" to get this summer )

H4Bangin
05-31-2003, 05:55 AM
the whole thing about having your car to low is to prevent it from fucin up the street if u are in an accident or if u have a flat they do not want ur car tearin up the street..and its just another reasone for cops to fuc with ya

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