96 Celica Engine pull for replacement.

I got everything ready Im pulling the engine and transaxle together and now the transaxle is hanging up on the back brace on the frame on the drivers side of the car the Haynes auto repair manual said it would pull right out ive followed every step and it will not come out any suggestions Thanks :screwy:

Have you lifted and tilted it far enough?

Ok i got the engine out the floor jack under the transaxle was not letting it tilt far enough.

Ok i got the engine out the floor jack under the transaxle was not letting it tilt far enough.



There you go :icon16:


What's the purpose of pulling it out.
Rebuild, or re-engine?

The old engine was knocking and the rod is bad.

The old engine was knocking and the rod is bad.



Any plans for anything fancy going back, or just a general rebuild?

I was just wanting to put in another engine will a 4SFE work mine was a 7SFE

You mean a 7A-FE?

yes oops 7AFE

Ahhhhh, could be a problem then.

The 3S and 7A use a different block. (Toyota engines are identified by the letter after number).

This means it won't be a bolt in swap.
The engine mounts, gearbox, ECU and wiring loom will be different.
You might also find the subframe and chassis mount points are also different, along with the axles, and even the radiator could be different.

Quite simply it's not a bolt in swap.

You need to put another A series engine there, and that best way to make sure it's a bolt in is to get another 7A-FE from a Celica.

Oh the other engine is a 4A-SE almost identical except for 1.8 litre and the 4SFE is a 1.6 litre.

4A-FE gosh.

4A-FE gosh.

Ahhh!


Should be fine then :)

Both use exactly the same block, just have a different bore and stroke.
Pretty sure they both have exactly the same head.

You may want to check all the engine sensors are the same, and have the same connections.

And you may want to use a 4A-FE ECU.

That said, it's going to go from a slow car, to a really slow car!


Can't you find another 7a?

Honestly the guy i bought the motor from told me it was an 7AFE 1.8 litre but Im learning alot and I called him back this evening and told him it was a 4AFE 1.6 he said he probably had it labeled wrong and to call him back tomorrow evening,I think my old engine could be fixed with a rod and a Crankshaft kit from NAPA it was running great just knocking.

Honestly the guy i bought the motor from told me it was an 7AFE 1.8 litre but Im learning alot and I called him back this evening and told him it was a 4AFE 1.6 he said he probably had it labeled wrong and to call him back tomorrow evening,I think my old engine could be fixed with a rod and a Crankshaft kit from NAPA it was running great just knocking.



A used engine will sometimes be cheaper, but is an unknown quantity.
It could be in worse condition than your old engine.

The engine code will be stamped on the block. You may need to clean some grime off it to find it.


How do you know your old engine has thrown a rod?
Have you torn it down?

If so then your half there to a rebuild, but you need to check a lot of things along the way, and make sure you replace as many parts as you can.

well he is a auto parts dealer and i have a warranty on it but its the wrong engine.my old engine has been reground before the rod that went bad had an oversize bearing in it .but hopefully he will replace the other engine.

well he is a auto parts dealer and i have a warranty on it but its the wrong engine.my old engine has been reground before the rod that went bad had an oversize bearing in it .but hopefully he will replace the other engine.


Sounds like a used engine might be cheapest option then :smokin:


Keep us updated on how it all goes.

as it turns out my 7afe engine has an crankshaft position sensor in the front timing cover the 4afe engine doesnt have it so i dont see how it could work.

as it turns out my 7afe engine has an crankshaft position sensor in the front timing cover the 4afe engine doesnt have it so i dont see how it could work.



Damn, is the guy who sold you the motor still going to take it back and give you a 7a-fe instead?

He said he would last Tuesday but has since stopped answering my calls he was a nice guy i cant believe it but I plan on taking the case to court 525.00 for the engine I bought from him.should I sue for anything else like time lost or is it a criminal case if he knew he was throwing a fastball by me he is a professional mechanic.

He said he would last Tuesday but has since stopped answering my calls he was a nice guy i cant believe it but I plan on taking the case to court 525.00 for the engine I bought from him.should I sue for anything else like time lost or is it a criminal case if he knew he was throwing a fastball by me he is a professional mechanic.



That sucks.

But, he maybe busy, or on holiday, etc.

You need to go and see him before you think about taking action through the courts etc.

Have you got somewhere else you can source a 7A-FE from?

No i cant find another 7A-FE engine right now but if I can get a refund I might be able to fix my old motor.and the guy was answering my calls i dont think hes to busy to answer the cell phone i have also texted and emailed him several times.Ill probably print all this and the emails, I saved the text messages for court.

I was ripped off by Shane Schlageter of Hickory NC turns out him and his wife Ann Schlageter are good at ripping people of they change business names import parts for less.mercedes parts source.other names Dont deal with these people charged with other crimes to like Cruelty to animals google his name in hickory NC wish i had before i dealt with them.

I was ripped off by Shane Schlageter of Hickory NC turns out him and his wife Ann Schlageter are good at ripping people of they change business names import parts for less.mercedes parts source.other names Dont deal with these people charged with other crimes to like Cruelty to animals google his name in hickory NC wish i had before i dealt with them.


That's terrible news.


Is it worth trying to recover anything from them, or are you better of selling the wrong engine you have, buying another from someone else more reputable?

as it turns out it was a blowed up core engine but it was fraud and not a small claims court stuff this guy really conned me said it was a wrecked celica the motor was out of said he personally tested the engine,his email address is threewonderfulkids go figure.

Hey Billy,
I have had the same scam against me on a car Shane and Ann Schlageter sold me with a junk engine...love to chat with you about your experience because I want to take the to court or file fraud charges