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chris26969
05-27-2003, 09:03 PM
I saw the matrix, and i feel that the car scene was pretty cool , but besides that the half hour fighting scenes put me to sleep . I felt bad for myself when i left the theatre , realizing that i just wasted a little over 2 hours of my day :(

YellowMaranello
05-27-2003, 09:05 PM
Yeah, no movie should ever be concluded with "TO BE CONCLUDED" and crappy music. Big downer.

jinushaun
05-27-2003, 09:07 PM
Why's everyone so butt hurt over 'To be Continued"? :confused:

Yeah, the acting suck bollocks and the fighting scenes weren't the impressive. But at least they developed the plot/story.

YellowMaranello
05-27-2003, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by jinushaun
Why's everyone so butt hurt over 'To be Continued"? :confused:

Yeah, the acting suck bollocks and the fighting scenes weren't the impressive. But at least they developed the plot/story.

My butt hurt when they showed Keano's butt....:rolleyes:

I'll admit that they did develop the story and set up the third one to be a potential awesome movie pretty well, we will see how it turns out.

blitzgsr97
05-27-2003, 09:20 PM
am still going to watch it :sun:

Jimster
05-27-2003, 10:03 PM
I'm still contemplating whether I want to see it or not- most people tell me it plain sucks :-/

YellowMaranello
05-27-2003, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by Jimster
I'm still contemplating whether I want to see it or not- most people tell me it plain sucks :-/

It's a "wait till it comes out and rent it or see it for free" video, IMO.

giantsnyy
05-27-2003, 10:19 PM
i must be one of the only people who liked this movie...

my personal opinion is that anyone who thinks the movie sucked dont understand the plot

chris26969
05-27-2003, 10:35 PM
Oh i completely understand it . I just think it was full of useless and boring scenes .

lordvektra
05-27-2003, 11:03 PM
love it. and yeah I agree. if you dont understand the plot its boring.

jon@af
05-27-2003, 11:28 PM
I really dont see the point of this thread seeing as there is already a matrix thread but oh well. I liked the movie myself, I also think that people who dont go to see a movie because someone else said it wasnt very good are missing out because people always have a different view of things.

speediva
05-28-2003, 12:47 AM
http://maddox.xmission.com/matrix2.html

^ My sentiments EXACTLY.
















And many of you who are running around saying this movie was "sooooo deep and philosopical and blah blah blah" are really just pretending that the movie didn't suck so bad b/c you THINK you found something deep behind it. Truth is... the movie sucked, and... nevermind.

Jay!
05-28-2003, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by saturntangerine
http://maddox.xmission.com/matrix2.html

^ My sentiments EXACTLY.I agree with him, but I still liked the movie. :licker:

Sanchi
05-28-2003, 01:42 AM
Im not too sure about maddox's review... it sounds to me like he's more of a homophobe (like he said) then him not likeing the movie. Yes the fight scenes could of been alil more climactic, but that dosent mean it blew donkey balls. Im not sure what you guys were expecting... RELOADED was not advertized as the ending so why do you expect an ending?? Im not defending it you guys are free to feel the way you feel, its just BS to say it sucked and that no one should see it. LORD of the RINGS, is to be continued. No crying about it there?? Its just kinda retarded :bloated: when ppl say it was a bad movie and claim that their expectations was not the main reasoning behind it. This movie was the perfect setup for the Ending comeing November.

Everyone told me it was a whatever movie, or what not... so i saw it for myself and it was a good movie. I enjoyed all of it... exept like one scene, the unnecessary muddy pit party there wasnt even any girls on the mud just Keanu Reeves butt?!?! But all in all it was an enjoyable movie, just had to give my review on it since everyone is in such disapproval of it :licker:

speediva
05-28-2003, 02:30 AM
Sorry to go astray here from the theme of Reloaded sucking...



BUT, the reason I'm not bitching about The Lord of The Rings is because I've never forced myself to suffer ANY of the movie, let alone the fact that they want me to suffer from multiple doses of the crappy plot and other crappy related pieces.





Enough of my off-topicness. Back to youre regularly scheduled talk about Reloaded sucking. :D I pray to God that the 3rd one makes up for it.

Neutrino
05-28-2003, 02:37 AM
well i liked the movie....i really don't care how many people have to be snooty about it and complain that it was not deep enoght or whatever...it was entretaining....and that is what i expected from it...so i got my money's worth.....


i'm sorry that i don't watch all the time deep meaningful low budget foreign films......:rolleyes:

KrNxRaCer00
05-28-2003, 02:39 AM
but think of it this way. the matrix trilogy is simply a story. the beginning of the story is the 2nd best part, because u learn about who's all gonna be in it, an wut their roles are (for the most part). the middle SUCKS (compared to the rest of the book, its by far the slowest, an the weakest part...) usually, an is jus filler but it is NEEDED for the ending to make sense. then...the ending is the best part, an all comes together. the matrix reloaded was pretty good, but jus wait til the 3rd comes out, then it'll all be fine.

taranaki
05-28-2003, 04:03 AM
Summary....

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/6987501retarded.jpg

Jimster
05-28-2003, 04:18 AM
Originally posted by taranaki
Summary....

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/6987501retarded.jpg


:spit: Reminds me of the radio ad in GTA: Vice City- Rated 'R' for 'Retarded' :D

Holyterror
05-28-2003, 05:20 AM
How many times have you gone out, watched half of a movie, and thought, "man, that was a great movie!"??? I don't that happens very often. If, for some reason, you only see half of a movie, you usually leave dissatisfied. If you left because it sucked, then you end up judging it only on the part you saw, because you don't have to will to finish it. If you left because for some reason you had to, then usually you are compelled to finish it. Well, guess what? Larry and Andy Wachowski just forced everybody to leave in the middle of the movie. You see, Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions are one movie split into two films, the main reasons being time constraints and (of course) more money. There is no time gap between the two films; Revolutions picks up right where Reloaded leaves off. And yes, it is basically the same deal as Lord of The Rings, except that LOTR did not make everyone painfully aware of what was going on by putting "To be concluded" on the screen in giant print. I have to admit, though, it was very funny hearing the resounding "WHAT?!" when that came on screen. :smoker2:

I'm not going to go into hyperbole here and say that Reloaded is the best film ever. It's not. I did, however, enjoy it immensely. I'll concede that the Neo vs. Agent Smith x 100 was not the best ever. I still seem to have gotten more out of it than the rest of you, though. I also have to admit that KEANU REEVES' BUTT SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN IN THE FILM!!! They could have at least cast a stunt double or something. Maybe a CGI butt? Hell, I'd rather have Lawrence Fishburne's unmentionables flopping around in bullet time! Anyway, back on topic... I do think that most of the people who don't like it don't get it. You may think that you get it, but you don't. Let me explain. You see, the Matrix trilogy does not fit neatly into the sci-fi/action genre; it's actually closer to an anime. The first film was frequently compared with the now classic Ghost in the Shell. The fact is, the Wachowskis are HUGE fans of anime and manga. Take a look at the storyboards from the first film: they could almost stand alone as a manga! So, what does this have to do with the movie not sucking?

Simple. For westerners, like myself, anime seems to be an acquired taste. After seeing some of the requisite films (the afforementioned Ghost in the Shell, Akira, etc.), you start to get used to the style. For example, all that preachy philosophy everybody has been complaining about - it's a regular fixture in a lot of overly-ambitious Japanese films, especially anime. It's not uncommon to have an anime director trying to cram a bunch of foreign philosophical nonsense down your throat at the most unexpected and unwanted times. The thing about The Matrix is, the philosophy is not about the directors trying to make a point, but actually an integral part of the plot. In another thread, I explained how the Merovingian (the annoying French guy) and the Architect (the verbose old guy) actually gave a lot of critical information. The jury's still out on the Oracle's rambling, but most of the dialogue actually has a point to it.

As for the action sequences, this is standard anime stuff as well. The impossible camera angles are a dead giveaway. I swear I've seen Morpheus fighting the agent on top of the semi in another movie. Remember, this movie is highly stylized, and if you aren't familiar with the style (or just don't like it) then it follows that you're not going to get much out of it. I have to admit that I felt like there was not enough gunplay; i.e., there should have been at least a few shots fired in every fight scene. And there were a few times that I felt like they were just showing off. However, the big Neo/Smith fight was absolutely necessary in order to emphasize and perpetuate the conflict between the two, since it appears to be the pivotal conflict in the next movie. Anybody who got bored during the freeway scene: I don't what to say to you; you must be a higher evolved creature than I... or something.

The infamous Zion/Keanu's butt scene could loosely be considered what is called fanservice, usually my least favorite aspect of anime, and a pathetic way to grab people's attention in my opinion. Like all fanservice, it seemed totally out of place and left me wondering why the creators thought it was necessary.

In conclusion, rather than saying "it sucked", it'd be better to say, "It was a different kind of movie from we were expecting," and "It was hyped as a general sci-fi/action flick, when it was more of a niche item." But then, you can say whatever you want about it. Unlike those poor "victims of causality," we have the freedom of choice. ;) The Matrix Retarded thing is actually kind of funny (at least when I'm tired). And there is one major thing that I just realized: Neo should've smoked. As I learned from Cowboy Bebop, smoking always makes stiff characters cool. :smoker2:

Damien
05-28-2003, 09:15 AM
I totally understood the plot and it was deep if you want it to be like anything else but overall...it can wait if oyu have a big screen tv. It was fun to watch on the big screen, but the thing is the fight scenes...way too long! Also, the hits! What was with the hits sounding so soft compared to the first.

ryan_guest1985
05-28-2003, 09:23 AM
Over all the movie was a good movie, the plot was nice, letting slie nicly into the third movie. The sex scene was hot until you saw Neo's ass. The only huge problem I had was the 3D animation used in the Mr. Smith Fight it sucked, the action was good but you could totally tell it was fake, same as when he is flying. The best part in the movie is when they did the weapon fight, and then Neo ducked and the other guy got smashed with a Mass. Anyways overall good movie worth the watch if you enjoyed the first movie.

thrasher
05-28-2003, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by ryan_guest1985
Over all the movie was a good movie, the plot was nice, letting slie nicly into the third movie. The sex scene was hot until you saw Neo's ass. The only huge problem I had was the 3D animation used in the Mr. Smith Fight it sucked, the action was good but you could totally tell it was fake, same as when he is flying. The best part in the movie is when they did the weapon fight, and then Neo ducked and the other guy got smashed with a Mass. Anyways overall good movie worth the watch if you enjoyed the first movie.

i can't believe nobody else brought this up, but i thought the comic relief was absolutely retarded. reloaded removed the matrix from epic status, for me anyways. it was corny as hell...not nearly as imaginative as the first either. although i so suppose that would be hard to do. i didn't like the plot, it just got too, well, corny i guess

B16 SiRII
05-28-2003, 11:13 AM
Does anybody remember "The Empire Strikes Back"? Middle movies have a tendency to be really crappy...because it's "jus filler but it is NEEDED for the ending to make sense." (KrNxRaCer00)
It's true that the Smith/Neo fight scene was shabbly done, in terms of CG effects, yet I thought that there were enough pauses for you to rest in between parts of the scene (more Smiths running in, Neo getting the metal pole).
My biggest problem with the movie was that damn Zion "rave"...WTF?! I totally knocks the storyline out of the ballpark...who the hell needs 15 minutes of dirty people having seizures in a cave in a movie that's meant to kick ass? But that's just my opinion...

YogsVR4
05-28-2003, 11:17 AM
I thought it was a very entertaining movie. Other then the scenes in Zion that I thought they could do without, I was happy to go see it. I knew it was a two parter when I went in so I was not dissapointed there.

Wait for the 2 Fast 2 Furious for a movie that will suck ass. I bet it'll be as bad as "The Gods Must Be Crazy" which blew more chunks then the Matrix would even hated fight scenes. :bloated:

ryan_guest1985
05-28-2003, 11:52 AM
The Zion thing was pretty corny, the story line was good but boring, but the freeway scene and the weapon scene made it almost worth it. The ghosts were cool too. Like the person above said it's a filler needed information for the third movie which is going to be incredible. I think that we all had too high of expectations before we went in to the movies. that's why you all think it was really bad.

chris26969
05-28-2003, 04:12 PM
ALL IN ALL. Matrix reloaded was a movie . Yet i payed for . 9.00 dollars i might add. Well If im going to go spend money for a movie its gotta have some depth and feeling to it . I understand the "filler" thing of it Having to be there. I know. YET It gave me nothing out of the movie , it felt like the movie never started and never ended ( kind of the point) . YET if the viewer is going to pay to see a movie they gotta get something out of it , some entertainment . rather than a movie that just crapped along cuz they "needed" this section of the triology.

TheNotoriousMogg
05-28-2003, 04:13 PM
That movie was 2 1/2 hours of my life, I can never get back

:mad:

chris26969
05-28-2003, 04:15 PM
Originally posted by TheNotoriousMogg
That movie was 2 1/2 hours of my life, I can never get back

:mad:


IVE BEEN SAYING THAT ALL WEEK.

Grendel
05-28-2003, 04:29 PM
Originally posted by B16 SiRII
Does anybody remember "The Empire Strikes Back"? Middle movies have a tendency to be really crappy...because it's "jus filler but it is NEEDED for the ending to make sense." (KrNxRaCer00)


Your kidding right? Empire was the greatest of the original trillogy. Kicks the shit out of the new ones too...

Matrix Reloaded was ok...

-Grendel

YogsVR4
05-28-2003, 04:41 PM
Originally posted by chris26969


IVE BEEN SAYING THAT ALL WEEK.

You also wont get the time back from all the complaining either ;)

chris26969
05-28-2003, 04:45 PM
damn it ... haha , BTW , meaning to ask you .

How much did you pay for that 3000gt Convertible...oh so rare.

jinushaun
05-28-2003, 04:53 PM
I don't care much for 'deep' meaning or their pseudophilosphical mumbo jumbo, but just thought that both the acting and dialogue was suckier and cheesier than the first movie.

Sanchi
05-28-2003, 07:11 PM
Well we all knew it was a movie with alot of deep thought put into it, so why all the "i dont care about the story BS, but the story stucked anyways". It started just like part one started, in the middle of something. So unless you the unlucky sap that missed the first one, you shouldnt be saying it had no begginging and no ending. It had an ending, same ending as in the first. Just they put a "To Be Continued" in the end this time. So some of you are saying if they hadnt put that there the movie would of been more satisfying??(i think that makes you the retarded one). Now, if they put that there to tease you and part 3 was comeing out in 2 years then id be piss, but its comeing out in November.

Im not sure anyone wants to go see a 5 hour movie now do they. Maby me because im a huge Anima fan, so im use to sitting 5+ hours to get the entire story. Holyterror is correct on his anima theroy, i agree with him completly!! Just think of from now till november its just a breather for the finale. Ohh also EMPIRE was awsome!!! It was just a filler but it was great!! with out it there wouldnt be an ending!! Just like Reloaded, but its no Empire though :p

MattyG
05-28-2003, 09:23 PM
I thought the movie was good, but with some changes could have been sooooo much better. As it stands, it was alright, but...flawed.

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