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Double WIP - Fujimi 430 Scuderia and Revell 458 Italia


ales
03-08-2011, 04:02 PM
Hi, all

Thought I'd share what I've been working on since yesterday. It's a double build because both will be painted the same colour (pearl white), both will have special decals and, well, I thought it'd be fun. I'm also putting myself on a rather strict deadline at least for one of the kits so if I have to choose I'll be focusing on the Scuderia more, mostly because I know the kit, it has fewer parts and it will be closer to box stock.

Anyway, here's what I started with

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_01.jpg

In addition to the kits in boxes you see a couple of sticker sets for both of them and a bag with parts from the Scuderia kit that I ordered from HLJ in order to have better brakes for the 458.

Let's start with what I've done with the 458 so far. First of all, I decided I wanted to cut out the plastic mesh near the tail lights.

Before:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_02.jpg

After (the other side is also done now):

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_03.jpg

The main point is that I don't want to lose the mesh detail under layers of primer and paint and clear, and at the moment I'm thinking of reusing the removed plastic parts. It doesn't look too tidy at the moment but it's nothing that cannot be fixed with some filler.

I also added the panel line that should be there but isn't OOB

No panel line

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_04.jpg

Soon-to-be panel line

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_05.jpg

Panel line

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_06.jpg

In reality I think I'll just remove the area that is supposed to be a mesh and will actually put a mesh in there. But no need to rush things, eh?

I've also drilled out the turn signals, they will be, as they usually are with me, replaced with painted stretched clear sprue.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_07.jpg

You can also see that I've glued in the door sills and the ducts in the front bumper (that's going to be a PITA to blend in...) and used the sprue from the kit to add some length to the front of the door sills - it seems that's necessary for every recent Ferrari kit from Fujimi.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_11.jpg

I also could not help but play with the Scuderia wheels

Painted Model Master magnesium with their sealer...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_09.jpg

... and detailed with chrome paint from a Tamiya marker and the fantastic Hobby Design emblem stickers. Also shod in some Pirellis :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_10.jpg

Can't wait to finish work tomorrow to get back to these. :grinyes:

Thanks for looking,
Alex

rx7king
03-09-2011, 10:40 AM
double build sweet! Cant wait to see what you have planned. What is the purpose of the deadline? Upcoming model show?

rallymaster
03-09-2011, 01:02 PM
One thread to closely follow !! :)

firun
03-09-2011, 01:58 PM
Forza Ales! Good start!

quadzero
03-09-2011, 06:14 PM
Very interesting project. I like your way of thinking of cutting out the mesh in order to avoid losing detail there from layers of paint. Even thou you might use real mesh later, I think thats a good tip.

auw12
03-10-2011, 10:20 PM
Special decal? Any hint? You made me curious mate~ That Model Master magnesium is SIMPLY AMAZING!!! I wish I could find any decent alternative in our market. Great start Alex~

ales
03-20-2011, 04:16 PM
Hey guys

Was hoping to post a lot more progress by now but it doesn't seem to be happening - lack of time, including weekends.

Anyway, thanks for the comments, and to answer some of them:

What is the purpose of the deadline? Upcoming model show?

The deadline was yesterday - missed it, predictably. It's not a model show, unfortunately, but something silly yet important for me - yesterday was exactly 10 years since I'd joined Automotiveforums. I was hoping to mark it somehow but I'm true to form :D So I'll work on both models more or less equally now.

Even thou you might use real mesh later, I think thats a good tip.

I think I might be forced to, we'll see.

Special decal? Any hint? You made me curious mate~ That Model Master magnesium is SIMPLY AMAZING!!! I wish I could find any decent alternative in our market. Great start Alex~

Nope, Tang, I'd like to keep the decals to myself for now :redface: I can say that one is a little more serious than the other but that's all I'll divulge.

The MM magnesium works well for the wheels, doesn't it? On the other hand, I wish I had access to the stuff you can buy in your local shops.

Might as well post some progress - I've been spending as much time as I could on these but don't have much to show for it. Haven't done much to the Italia, on the 430 I used Tamiya gunmetal clearcoated with 2K clear to simulate CF. Since it's the shine and not the pattern that is visible on this car I prefer to do it this way.

Underside - the diffusor was painted X10, the rest is waiting for the SGB and detailing

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_12.jpg

Finished the door panels (Tamiya gunmetal, neutral grey and german grey). The mesh pocket is sort of dry-brushed with XF1 and it looks OK in person.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_13.jpg

Finished the seats. Again, clearcoated X10, neutral grey. At first I thought to leave them grey but they looked too plain so I painted the middle parts of the cushion and the seatback flat black (well over an hour to mask, 20 seconds to paint, 2 minutes to remove the masking tape...)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_14.jpg

The dashboard is also almost finished. The paint is german grey with the accents hand-painted with X10 and then detailed with SGB. PITA.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_15.jpg

Some other "CF" pieces.

Mirrors - box stock except the sensor

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_16.jpg

Headlights - used the CM metal transfer for the LED strip (I seriously love how these turned out)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_17.jpg

Front spoiler, rear window brace and shifter paddles

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_18.jpg

Thanks,
Alex

countach79
03-21-2011, 05:44 AM
awesome!!!!

cjsbosox
03-21-2011, 10:35 AM
AHA I too have a Scuderia to build! So I will follow this. Nice work so far.

ales
03-28-2011, 04:05 PM
Hey guys,

I finally got enough done to warrant an update - all of which involves the 430 Scuderia

First the large engine compartment. Drilled out most of the imitations of fasteners

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_19.jpg

And used top studio rivets to replace them

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_20.jpg

Finished - painted Tamiya gunmetal (clearcoated), Humbrol SGB, Tamiya Neutral Grey and finally Model Master magnesium metallizer + sealer.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_21.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_22.jpg

Also finished the "engine" - didn't do anything to it except I used an AcuStion PE part for the top of the oil cap

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_23.jpg

Over to the interior. The steering column is done with the obligatory lock barrel/keyhole. The VIN number area is painted aluminium with a tiny "Ferrari" decal, the rest is gibberish done with a marker.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_24.jpg

The interior tub was painted SGB, then masked off

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_25.jpg

Painted neutral grey, masked off again

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_26.jpg

Painted German grey

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_27.jpg

Masked off again ...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_28.jpg

Painted Tamiya gunmetal and clearcoated. Then somewhat assembled and detailed, and here's the result.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_29.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_30.jpg

Still need to add the mesh for the pockets, then it will be finished.

The last thing to show is the completed floorpan.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_31.jpg

Hope you like it, and thanks again for looking.

Alex

Ferrari TR
03-28-2011, 08:05 PM
Nice work on the interior. I'm doing the same on my 360 right now.

CifeNet
03-29-2011, 02:01 AM
Sweet build you got going here! Love the gunmatel color and detail oriented parts! Good job!

ales
09-13-2011, 04:10 PM
Hey all! For various reasons (mostly unpleasant) I haven't been able to devote much attention to these kits for months, but I do think I might as well post a little update.

Let's start with the underside of the 458. This is what comes in the box. Fujimi one is much much better.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_32.jpg

I thought of correcting it but it's just not the effort and I don't have good pictures of the underside anyway. I did add the panel line that separates the diffusor from the rest of the undertray.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_33.jpg

Here's what it looks like now and I still haven't decided if I want to give the diffusor the same treatment as I did with the 430.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_34.jpg

Finished valve covers, nothing fancy. The 458 ones are huge!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_35.jpg

On to suspension. These are the brakes that come in the Revell 458 kit

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_36.jpg

You can see how much longer the Revell hubs and brakes are compared to the Fujimi 430 Scuderia kit parts that I'm going to use here

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_37.jpg

So I've decided to sacrifice accuracy for ease of building and cut off the pins

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_38.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_39.jpg

And I'm going to use the Revell hub/Fujimi hub/Fujimi brake disc sandwich. It works rather well on all four corners and will make ride height adjustment very easy.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_40.jpg

Mocked up

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_41.jpg

The body. I was really unhappy with the shape and size of the headlight washers that Revell give us

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_42.jpg

So I filled them and made this little template out of thin plastic

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_43.jpg

Then used it like this on the body. Flipped it for use on the other side.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_44.jpg

Here's the result.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_45.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_46.jpg

And here's where I am with the bodies now - the final coat of primer needs a bit of sanding before paint. I've added the panel lines before the last coat of primer, and if you look closely at the body of the 458 you'll see that I've also filled the depressions used for the rear view mirrors and (not really visible) extended the panel lines under the doors to the front wheel openning.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_47.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_48.jpg

Anyway, thanks for looking and I hope to post more sooner rather than later.

rx7king
09-13-2011, 06:56 PM
nice update! suspension adjustment is interesting

da_ashman
09-13-2011, 08:25 PM
Nice work, Cant wait to see both in pearl white!! If your planning on using Ferrari Bicano Fuji pearl white, i can asure you its a great colour & will look fantastic!!!

MidMazar
09-14-2011, 12:17 AM
I really enjoy your wips, will be glued to this one. Good luck.
I need more motivation to get back to building, lately ice been
A collector. :banghead:

ales
09-14-2011, 02:40 PM
Thanks, guys. The colour will indeed by Bianco Fuji :)

Some more pictures, still old progress, though.

Painted 458 bits and pieces
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_49.jpg

458 suspension parts, Revell and Fujimi, the top row is the front suspension, the bottom one is the rear one. Everything not needed, including the parking brake calipers, was removed from the Fujimi hub parts.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_50.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_52.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_51.jpg

430S rolling chassis
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_53.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_54.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_55.jpg

Brake calipers for both models were detailed with the little bleed valves and the decals were printed for me in Germany.

Cheers,
Alex

countach79
09-14-2011, 09:19 PM
coming along nicely

auw12
09-18-2011, 03:22 PM
I missed a lot on this one!:banghead::banghead::banghead: Brilliant works as always Alex! Your paint works are really on the top! I have about the same plan on bashing the two 458 kits together for equal accurateness and details, you've inspired me a lot. For me the major problem of the revell 458 was the narrow headlight and the thickness of the nose, but modifying this involved the clear parts so I'd simply go for the fujimi body and took the interior and engine of the revell. Looking forward to the color scheme taking shape, it'll be great on bianco fuji, will it be bicolor? Good luck on both!

ales
09-18-2011, 04:15 PM
Hey Tang!

Good plan you've got there, can't wait to see it.

Funny you should bring this thread up. I spent all day today painting and clearcoating the bodies and I have to say that Bianco Fuji is without a doubt the hardest colour I've ever worked with, by some margin. The pearl layer is so transluscent that whatever you have underneath (white basecoat or just white primer like in my case) has to be absolutely perfect. The pearl layer hides absolutely nothing, so I'll have to live with a couple of specs of dust there. When done, however, it looks amazing, Ferrari really knew what they were doing when they "borrowed" this colour from the Maserati palette.

It's dark outside so I'm not sure how much the pictures will show you. The roof on the 458 isn't painted, the rest of the bodies (as well as other 458 parts that are still drying) have been painted and clearcoated with PPG automotive products.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_56.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_57.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_58.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/ales12911/Double_build_1/DB1_59.jpg

Not sure when I'll find time to continue with this, hopefully soon...

da_ashman
09-18-2011, 08:17 PM
I spent all day today painting and clearcoating the bodies and I have to say that Bianco Fuji is without a doubt the hardest colour I've ever worked with, by some margin. The pearl layer is so transluscent that whatever you have underneath (white basecoat or just white primer like in my case) has to be absolutely perfect. The pearl layer hides absolutely nothing, so I'll have to live with a couple of specs of dust there. When done, however, it looks amazing

Despite the difficultly Both look Amazing!! I Love this colour, Ive only seen it on my No17 FXX & the lines of the FXX dont show off the colour as well as the 458 body! Cant wait to see more & outdoor pics!

tonioseven
09-22-2011, 05:54 AM
How in the world did I miss THIS thread!! Beautiful work from you as always! :sunglasse

auw12
09-22-2011, 11:46 AM
That bianco fuji is simply awesome~ can't wait to see some mock-up of the 458 with painted wheels~

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