97 maxima vs moded neon

hey ya'll last night i was witness to a race where a moded neon kept up with a moded 97 auto maxima, what gives? the guy with the maxima had full intake, full exhaust systems the neon had intake,exhaust and?? does anyone know what that neon had to be that fast? the neon was also a 5 speed

Turbo? For a bare Neon engine, to stay up with a V6 Max with intake and exhaust... that would be my bet... or he really lightend his car.

neon could have had ingnition work, chip, jus crap like that could have helped. or maybe he had a lil nitrous hidding somewhere in there

if it was nitros he'd have to have hit it at the right moment for no one to notice him pull up... cause he would have had to be behind at some point to be able to use NOS and not pass him.

i think the lightened thing like u said might be right, ive talked to a few ppl with neons and they were running times i thought they were bsin bout too, but they had really lightened up and done basic mods

Maybe he had an sc system and a upgraded shifter.

should have heard blow off valve for SC, so wouldnta been more obvious

the he must have had something good on that car.

maybe its cause auto max's suck ass ;)

No you suck... I love my Max even if it is an Auto...

Auto maxxies are good as well as stick ones. Just some people prefer comfort (auto wasnt my choice to get) But stock auto maxxies do better on 1/4 mile than stock stick maxxies. Difference is .02 or .03 seconds. Thats if the driver knows how to work that tranny. No big deal tho.

Originally posted by DiS
Auto maxxies are good as well as stick ones. Just some people prefer comfort (auto wasnt my choice to get) But stock auto maxxies do better on 1/4 mile than stock stick maxxies. Difference is .02 or .03 seconds. Thats if the driver knows how to work that tranny. No big deal tho.

You said that stock auto maxes do better in the 1/4 than stock sticks. That was a misprint right?

Originally posted by DiS
Auto maxxies are good as well as stick ones. Just some people prefer comfort (auto wasnt my choice to get) But stock auto maxxies do better on 1/4 mile than stock stick maxxies. Difference is .02 or .03 seconds. Thats if the driver knows how to work that tranny. No big deal tho.

Not true. Auto Maximas are notoriously slower than the 5-spd version. With a VB Mod, the discrepancy then becomes a few tenths of a second. Your discrepancies are hundredths of a second. Anyone in any car can run it a few times and get that kind of difference.

Do your homework killer. Autos are inherently slower provided the person in the 5-spd knows how to operate his car. I know, I have one too.

Originally posted by MaxPayne


Not true. Auto Maximas are notoriously slower than the 5-spd version. With a VB Mod, the discrepancy then becomes a few tenths of a second. Your discrepancies are hundredths of a second. Anyone in any car can run it a few times and get that kind of difference.

Do your homework killer. Autos are inherently slower provided the person in the 5-spd knows how to operate his car. I know, I have one too.

5-speeds will blow autos off the track. Even if a person knows how to manually shift their auto, its still the notoriously crappy Maxima 4-speed.:rolleyes:




As for this post........ if that Neon is not supercharged, a stock Maxima 5-speed could probably beat it. What were the times of these cars?(if it was at a strip)

I don't think it was at a strip.:)


I remember reading about a naturally aspirated Neon that ran 12's. There is alot of parts for them. I don't doubt that a heavily modified Neon can beat a max.

One of the DOHC ones with all the bolt-ons, cams and high-comp pistons would be pretty nasty. Albeit gay, but nasty.

Hehe. I know that stick is much better, Im not arguing. Just telling what heard. Its time for some ass beating of the person who told me. What can I say... Im naive:rolleyes:

i love my car to death. yes, it is an auto, but unfortunately it is very slow off the line. I'd rather take a neon on a highway race rather than a strip race =o) i've seen it where ricers zip by me on the higher and think they have won the battle. when i strap on my seatbelt and burn him, i like to roll down the window and wave good bye to the 4 banger.


ok...i got a little off track. my point is that my auto is only slow off the line.

When I first got my car, all I had was a a popcharger and I raced a '99 Neon R/T that had catback, gutted cat, cam gears, headers, plug wires and CAI. I took him off the line, but didnt catch up until around 70MPH, never did pass him. And yes, I know how to shift. That thing was fucking quick.

Originally posted by KinKyGoOsE
When I first got my car, all I had was a a popcharger and I raced a '99 Neon R/T that had catback, gutted cat, cam gears, headers, plug wires and CAI. I took him off the line, but didnt catch up until around 70MPH, never did pass him. And yes, I know how to shift. That thing was fucking quick.

Yeah, it would take all that crap to get that POS that fast.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :D

yeah well he won't race me unless i pull my bottle but i think he sc because he won't let me look under the hood and he has 7 or 8 gauges one is a boost gauge but he told me its not connected, now as for the automagic hate on this thread you guys are crazy a 5-speed max is faster than an auto max unless you upgrade your tranny like me, i got a bulletproof tranny and can out shift a 5 speed max

Originally posted by daveauth21
a 5-speed max is faster than an auto max unless you upgrade your tranny like me, i got a bulletproof tranny and can out shift a 5 speed max

i'm sure there are some drivers that can outshift your tranny, especially with a short-throw

Originally posted by FarbsMaxima
maybe its cause auto max's suck ass ;)

Yeah, some people thing a Auto Max is god :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Bluebird from the
I don't think it was at a strip.:)


I remember reading about a naturally aspirated Neon that ran 12's. There is alot of parts for them. I don't doubt that a heavily modified Neon can beat a max.

One of the DOHC ones with all the bolt-ons, cams and high-comp pistons would be pretty nasty. Albeit gay, but nasty.

12's?:confused: cars that run 12's have 400 hp and hit 60 in about 4.5 seconds. how can a 2 liter possibly be pushed to 400 hp, especially a neon 2 liter. S2000 (highest specific output for NA car) has 120 hp per liter, is RWD, and hits 60 in like 5 -5.5 seconds. i don't believe it, not without juice or boost

Originally posted by thrasher


12's?:confused: cars that run 12's have 400 hp and hit 60 in about 4.5 seconds. how can a 2 liter possibly be pushed to 400 hp, especially a neon 2 liter. S2000 (highest specific output for NA car) has 120 hp per liter, is RWD, and hits 60 in like 5 -5.5 seconds. i don't believe it, not without juice or boost

This car was a fully sponsored drag-only car. It had no interior whatsoever, plastic windows, slicks, etc. Probably bored and stroked as well. So he probably only needed something like 280whp (at the most) to move such a light car down the track.

There's a video floating around of the new Neon SRT running 12's with only 4 mods. It has a little over 300whp and full interior.

All you need to make the SRT-4 do that is a powerful turbo chip, new high power catbacks and the turbos ecu recalibrated.

I raced a modded Neonn with a new 2.0 engine swap. I believe he had intake headers and exhaust and a few othger things. I have an automatic and only have a K&N. He got me off the line but I ended up walking him down, plus, I have the windows down and overdrive on. Overall, I had him at the end. If a max is modded, the Max will beat a modded Neon.

Have any of you guys ever raced a srt-4????I havent but I hear those litle fuckers are quick.
:eek:

i haven't even seen one in person yet other than the NY auto show at the jacob javits center last year. If i saw one i'd try to race it, but i wouldn't really expect to win.

here's my experience with the whole 5 speed vs auto thing. i have a 96 se auto (190 horse) and my friend has a 91 5 speed (160 horse). off the line he was almost immediately half a car length ahead of me. he continued to pull on me up to about 30 mph. once he hit 2nd gear i started to get back, and once i topped 2nd (80 mph) i was a car length ahead of him. also, hes an incredibly good driver so it didnt have anything to do with that. its just that having a clutch gave him a much better jump.