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mopar96
12-27-2010, 06:06 PM
PEOPLE, PLEASE REMEMBER TO GREASE THE PINS SO WHEN ITS TIME TO REPLACE THE PADS WE DONT HAVE TO GO TO EXTREME MEASURES TO DO A 30 MINUTE JOB. ALSO MAKE SURE WHEN YOU SERVICE THE BRAKES THAT THE FLUID IS GOOD, THIS SUCKER HAD BLACK FLUID AND THE CALIPERS NEED REPLACING.... OH WELL PAY ME NOW OR PAY ME MORE LATER..:banghead:

j cAT
12-27-2010, 07:17 PM
PEOPLE, PLEASE REMEMBER TO GREASE THE PINS SO WHEN ITS TIME TO REPLACE THE PADS WE DONT HAVE TO GO TO EXTREME MEASURES TO DO A 30 MINUTE JOB. ALSO MAKE SURE WHEN YOU SERVICE THE BRAKES THAT THE FLUID IS GOOD, THIS SUCKER HAD BLACK FLUID AND THE CALIPERS NEED REPLACING.... OH WELL PAY ME NOW OR PAY ME MORE LATER..:banghead:


when you get a vehicle like this I would replace the calipers ...

most shops do this, even if good to get the profit up !

youR post is correct if you want to get a good amount of brake life..

what I have noticed is repair shops with a simple pad replacement push back the caliper pistons , then install pads , and bleed the brakes ....

this is a very bad habit !!!!!

firSt thing to do is , open bleed screw, then push back THE calIPER pistons ....

NOW THAT BAD FLUID GOES INTO THE BUCKET NOT THE abs MODULE...

mopar96
12-29-2010, 08:53 AM
This car had fluid to the very top of the master cylinder, never seen that before so someone added it at some time due to maybe a lite coming on, also I never had to open the bleeder screw to push back pistons, I just push back and sometimes will take cap off mc then once done replace it, I informed this cat that his rotors were grooved like guiter strings and calipers were just about done, well guess what he said just put on the pads.....ok buddy but its ur ass and money.....never again.

j cAT
12-29-2010, 09:24 AM
This car had fluid to the very top of the master cylinder, never seen that before so someone added it at some time due to maybe a lite coming on, also I never had to open the bleeder screw to push back pistons, I just push back and sometimes will take cap off mc then once done replace it, I informed this cat that his rotors were grooved like guiter strings and calipers were just about done, well guess what he said just put on the pads.....ok buddy but its ur ass and money.....never again.


most vehicle owners have brakes serviced when the vehicle won't stop. sometimes the light comes on and then the brakes are serviced.

that usually means rotors and pads/shoes...could also be caliper if over 7yrs old in the rust belt.

adding fluid to the master res. this is done by the lube jockies, they top off every thing..

so the other reason to open the bleed screws when pushing the caliper/brake cylinders would be to prevent brake fluid from overflowing the res..

the ABS getting contaminated fluid however is why I do, what I do !

the brake fluid gets damaged by the heat .........in the calipers..

mopar96
12-29-2010, 12:17 PM
By the looks of it maybe ur right about the jockies doing the fluids. But the brake fluid will be contaminated going to abs anyway right even though u open bleeder screw?? What's the diff if u take cap off or open screw??? Again I never had to do either until I noticed the dam mc was full to the brim.. ya calipers are going to but he don't wanna pay now...

j cAT
12-29-2010, 12:54 PM
By the looks of it maybe ur right about the jockies doing the fluids. But the brake fluid will be contaminated going to abs anyway right even though u open bleeder screw?? What's the diff if u take cap off or open screw??? Again I never had to do either until I noticed the dam mc was full to the brim.. ya calipers are going to but he don't wanna pay now...


the fluid in the brake res. normally does not get contaiminated, the calipers and brake cylinders do indeed get very hot, also lots of mositure at road level..not to say some idiot filling the res. uses fluid with mositure in it or oils , then does not properly seat the cover/cap..

with ABS vehicles it is very important not to push old brake fluid into the system ...

If you have an abs scanner that can bleed GM or other manufacturers abs modules then this may not be necessary ...I don't own one . tooo expensive..

with the current economic situation , many don't have money for worn brake pads...but they must in order to stop ...thats why you get a vehicle owner not wanting the rotors/calipers replaced even if the pad failure caused severe damage to these parts...I have seen cal pistions worn quite severely ..pad totally gone..pads put in ONLY until next payday !

mopar96
12-29-2010, 01:04 PM
Ok so correct me if I'm wrong. When doing brakes on a vehicle with abs I should open the bleeder screw and while its open compress the piston back in in order to get new pads to fit in the caliper then retighten screw and refill the mc with new fluid??? Also ya it was a wait til next payday kinda situation here, something I call a hood truck...lol thanks

mopar96
12-29-2010, 01:06 PM
Also does this theory apply to newer vehicles with abs, miles like 45k

j cAT
12-29-2010, 08:27 PM
Also does this theory apply to newer vehicles with abs, miles like 45k

dont matter how old really. If the owner is hard on the brakes and at 20,ooo the pads are worn down to zero ya think the fluid got a little hot?

maybe he drove this vehicle in 2ft deep water for a few days also.

CALIPER piston brake fluid is n/g !

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