WOW @ Micro sol
DavidG
05-23-2003, 02:21 PM
finally my local hobby store got some in stock today, and just came home and used it
results are am zing :D
did a couple of test, like the intake box in the enzo, and it covered everything, and the seats are amezing now
thank you guys for the advice
ps, in some places i gave it too much brush, and the decal was destroyed, you could see the image was not the same :eek:
results are am zing :D
did a couple of test, like the intake box in the enzo, and it covered everything, and the seats are amezing now
thank you guys for the advice
ps, in some places i gave it too much brush, and the decal was destroyed, you could see the image was not the same :eek:
DSM-Mark
05-23-2003, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by DavidG
ps, in some places i gave it too much brush, and the decal was destroyed, you could see the image was not the same :eek:
Microsol is very dangerous stuff if you play around with it too much. Just put it on the decal, and let it do it's own work. Don't attempt to move the decal around at all after you have applied the microsol. Just place your decal in the best possible spot (accounting for some shaping), apply the microsol, and back off. If the decal appears to get a little bubbled, don't touch it!!! Your instinct will be to smooth it out, but the decal is so soft now, if you touch it, you'll break it apart. It will dry smooth.
It's great stuff if you use it correctly. It's also very easy to use incorrectly.
ps, in some places i gave it too much brush, and the decal was destroyed, you could see the image was not the same :eek:
Microsol is very dangerous stuff if you play around with it too much. Just put it on the decal, and let it do it's own work. Don't attempt to move the decal around at all after you have applied the microsol. Just place your decal in the best possible spot (accounting for some shaping), apply the microsol, and back off. If the decal appears to get a little bubbled, don't touch it!!! Your instinct will be to smooth it out, but the decal is so soft now, if you touch it, you'll break it apart. It will dry smooth.
It's great stuff if you use it correctly. It's also very easy to use incorrectly.
ales
05-23-2003, 03:27 PM
I got some a couple of days ago and can't say that it works for me :( Is the decal supposed to wrinkle and then straighten itself out again? Didn't happen when I tried it.
Deniz
05-23-2003, 03:51 PM
I was looking at a decal sheet of a kit the other day and on the top it said "not compatible with decal setting solutions"
maybe that was your problem ales.
maybe that was your problem ales.
DavidG
05-23-2003, 03:53 PM
here is what i did, learned from reading post
put the decal in warm water and some soap, after you cut it, when is ready to put on, brush the place where you'll place the decal with microsol, then put the decal on top, and with the same brush with microsol, spread the decal, so you dont have as much wrinkles, and i didnt had any bubles, i let it dry for a little bit, and since i was testin it, on one side i brushed it again, and thats where i destroyed the decal, the other side of the intake was fine, couple of wrinkles, but way too small to notice in a finished car..
now, after tons of trying without microsol i can tell you is way way better with it, before i couldnt finish the back of the seat, i heated it :mad:
a lot better now :eek:
i dont have my digicam to take pics :mad:
i was only testing it, thats why i destroyed the carbon fiber decal, now i know how far i can take it next time :D
put the decal in warm water and some soap, after you cut it, when is ready to put on, brush the place where you'll place the decal with microsol, then put the decal on top, and with the same brush with microsol, spread the decal, so you dont have as much wrinkles, and i didnt had any bubles, i let it dry for a little bit, and since i was testin it, on one side i brushed it again, and thats where i destroyed the decal, the other side of the intake was fine, couple of wrinkles, but way too small to notice in a finished car..
now, after tons of trying without microsol i can tell you is way way better with it, before i couldnt finish the back of the seat, i heated it :mad:
a lot better now :eek:
i dont have my digicam to take pics :mad:
i was only testing it, thats why i destroyed the carbon fiber decal, now i know how far i can take it next time :D
chaos
05-23-2003, 04:09 PM
DavidG - interesting that you use MicroSol before you place the decal cos I was under the impression that there was another solution (MicroSet (?) - I think) that is applied before placing the decal. I believe its only after the decal is in place that MicroSol should be applied.
I just apply MicroSol to the placed decal and don't touch it for a looong time until it dries completely. It comes out pretty well.
I just apply MicroSol to the placed decal and don't touch it for a looong time until it dries completely. It comes out pretty well.
bvia
05-23-2003, 04:50 PM
Originally posted by ales
I got some a couple of days ago and can't say that it works for me :( Is the decal supposed to wrinkle and then straighten itself out again? Didn't happen when I tried it.
Always, always, always......always test on a scrap decal before using ANY setting solution. Some are NOT compatible (Tamiya is notorious for either working great or turning into shriveled up junk).
hth,
Bill
I got some a couple of days ago and can't say that it works for me :( Is the decal supposed to wrinkle and then straighten itself out again? Didn't happen when I tried it.
Always, always, always......always test on a scrap decal before using ANY setting solution. Some are NOT compatible (Tamiya is notorious for either working great or turning into shriveled up junk).
hth,
Bill
DSM-Mark
05-23-2003, 04:59 PM
Originally posted by chaos
DavidG - interesting that you use MicroSol before you place the decal cos I was under the impression that there was another solution (MicroSet (?) - I think) that is applied before placing the decal. I believe its only after the decal is in place that MicroSol should be applied.
I just apply MicroSol to the placed decal and don't touch it for a looong time until it dries completely. It comes out pretty well.
Exactly. The first time I used microsol I placed it on the body, then slid the decal over it, smoothed it out and placed more microsol. The problem with this is that the microsol immediately starts softening the decal, so as you're trying to place the decal, you end up breaking it apart, or getting minute wrinkles in it that turn into a big problem when you try to smooth them out.
I'm not an expert with decals, but for the last car I did, I would decal just with water, smooth out, then apply Microsol. For the most part it went well, but I did have a decal or two that silvered. In the future, I plan to use Microset first on the body, place the decal, smooth, then Microsol.
Of course, you don't really need Microsol at all, if you're just putting the decal on a smooth, flat surface.
DavidG - interesting that you use MicroSol before you place the decal cos I was under the impression that there was another solution (MicroSet (?) - I think) that is applied before placing the decal. I believe its only after the decal is in place that MicroSol should be applied.
I just apply MicroSol to the placed decal and don't touch it for a looong time until it dries completely. It comes out pretty well.
Exactly. The first time I used microsol I placed it on the body, then slid the decal over it, smoothed it out and placed more microsol. The problem with this is that the microsol immediately starts softening the decal, so as you're trying to place the decal, you end up breaking it apart, or getting minute wrinkles in it that turn into a big problem when you try to smooth them out.
I'm not an expert with decals, but for the last car I did, I would decal just with water, smooth out, then apply Microsol. For the most part it went well, but I did have a decal or two that silvered. In the future, I plan to use Microset first on the body, place the decal, smooth, then Microsol.
Of course, you don't really need Microsol at all, if you're just putting the decal on a smooth, flat surface.
Mean_B16
05-23-2003, 05:45 PM
Once you use it you NEVER look back! I don't know how I ever managed w/o it?
DavidG
05-23-2003, 05:53 PM
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i'll try the next seat without putting the microsol before the decal, and see how it comes out :D
i'll try the next seat without putting the microsol before the decal, and see how it comes out :D
Deejay27
05-23-2003, 07:21 PM
People say not to use it with "Tamiya" decals but if you dab the brush on a napkin after dipping it with MicroSol and apply a very thin coat it should be fine. Do not drown Tamiya decals with this stuff...it will destroy it.....trust me.....I learned the hard way :eek:.
daggerlee
05-23-2003, 11:03 PM
I dab Micro Set over the decal area, then put the decal on, make sure it's flat or as flat as can be, then lightly brush Micro Sol over it taking care not to move it, then leave it be.
ales
05-23-2003, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by bvia
Always, always, always......always test on a scrap decal before using ANY setting solution.
That's exactly what I did, Bill ;)
Always, always, always......always test on a scrap decal before using ANY setting solution.
That's exactly what I did, Bill ;)
primera man
05-24-2003, 07:13 AM
I have found that the stuff works really will on most decals (Tamiya etc) apart from Revell/Monagram ones....it seems to make the decals dry all white looking :mad:
Slipknot
05-24-2003, 11:38 AM
What in the hell is microsol and what is it used for?!:angryfire
DavidG
05-24-2003, 08:27 PM
microsol is a solution that soften the decal, for when you use it in irregular parts, where you can get some wrinkles :D
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