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Is this a prank of some sort?


andybmw7272
12-12-2010, 09:59 AM
Why are there three different users posting comments to threads that are more than a year old????

I am sure I may get some flack for posting this, but I thought it was considered rude to post replies to threads which are so old? FAQ says let sleeping posts sleep.

I hate seeing the front page taken up with all these damn replies on stuff that has not been replied to in more than a year.

:screwy:

ZoomZoomMX-5
12-12-2010, 10:08 AM
Some people are idiots...I've seen people dredge up threads that are 5 or more years old. You can always tell who is a complete moronic noob when you get a whole page full of that nonsense :banghead:

cinqster
12-12-2010, 10:23 AM
IMHO, I don't see a problem with it at all.:confused:

I thought this forum was supposed to be a centre for knowledge on our hobby - such an attitude will surely put off interested new members/posters?:nono:

BVC500
12-12-2010, 10:25 AM
Yeah, not sure i see a problem with it either. Maybe they did a search and found an old post they saw for the first time and liked.

Entau
12-12-2010, 10:31 AM
i recently saw one replied "NICE!" in the WIP thread that is older than 7 years old...which is VERY unnecessary :disappoin

ZoomZoomMX-5
12-12-2010, 10:49 AM
i recently saw one replied "NICE!" in the WIP thread that is older than 7 years old...which is VERY unnecessary :disappoin

That's the kind of dredging up that I was commenting on above. Occasionally a reply that is asking for certain information is fine, but making simplistic replies on a bunch of ancient threads is generally a vain attempt to gain post counts and reputation.

andybmw7272
12-12-2010, 11:00 AM
That's the kind of dredging up that I was commenting on above. Occasionally a reply that is asking for certain information is fine, but making simplistic replies on a bunch of ancient threads is generally a vain attempt to gain post counts and reputation.

This was my point exactly.

racer93
12-12-2010, 11:02 AM
That's the kind of dredging up that I was commenting on above. Occasionally a reply that is asking for certain information is fine, but making simplistic replies on a bunch of ancient threads is generally a vain attempt to gain post counts and reputation.


If the post is in all sincerity, go for it. However, if it's as Zoom said, to heck with 'em.

I recently saw one dredged up from 8 years ago ('02) to say "Nice build." Completely unnecessary and a waste of bandwidth.

cinqster
12-12-2010, 11:26 AM
I still disagree! I have had some great old build threads appear that I would probably never have discovered were it not for people doing this.

To me, it's like re-reading a good article in a 12 year old copy of Tamiya Model Magazine...which I do regularly, LOL! :grinyes:

klutz_100
12-12-2010, 11:35 AM
IIRC my first ever post here on AF was to do exactly that.
I dragged up an old thread to compliment the builder and got toasted for it by one of the regular users at the time - Vric, IIRC :)

Here's the thing, I was a noob. I was new to the whole forum thing and simply didn't realize a) it was an old thread and b) it is somewhat frowned upon to bring up old threads (although - AFAIK - it is not against the bylaws on AF to do that).

It had nothing to do with post count or reputation or anything like that (I didn't even know what they were :lol:). I quite simply stumbled across AF while using the web to find some help on how to build a cleaner and better model, found a great build of my subject and posted a compliment. And got flamed :D

My point is: yes, it is irritating and I am sometimes guilty myself of making a sarcastic post when that happens but I'll bet that 9 times out of 10 it is done innocently and without malice.

A polite request to refrain will probably enlighten the member about netiquette, prevent it happening again and keep the noob interested in the forum.

CrateCruncher
12-12-2010, 12:31 PM
IMHO, I don't see a problem with it at all.:confused:

I thought this forum was supposed to be a center for knowledge on our hobby - such an attitude will surely put off interested new members/posters?:nono:

:iagree:Personally, I really don't see a problem here either. I don't feel it is impolite to post to an old thread at all and I don't understand where anyone got that impression? I think it's much worse to allow all the wonderfully informative threads to languish until the photo links die unseen by a multitude of new members that could learn a great deal from them. (However, I also snicker occasionally when several veteran members follow with questions to the author of the 7 or 8 year old thread expecting a timely reply!:cwm27:)

I recently added a link to Niko's now ancient Union P4 thread in my own P4 WIP because I figured anyone that had interest in mine would enjoy his too. I linked to Kunta's ancient Kustom Katana thread to illustrate how much could be done with a forgotten Katana kit. Where's the problem?

On the other hand, I see noobs get flamed for asking simple questions that have been covered to the point of nausea. "Use the search" we say. Now people are complaining about them dredging up old threads? That doesn't sound like a consistent message to me.:confused:

Rather than discourage dredging, I think the experienced members should take more initiative in exposing the "Classics" to the newer members. Thinking off the top of my head I'd like to see a sticky thread with a table of contents in the first post which lists links to the all-time best WIPS by post#. Let's expose some of that stuff before it's gone forever.....Sorry for the rambling rant.

hirofkd
12-12-2010, 12:43 PM
People get complaints for using search; people get complains for not using search.
What gives!?:grinyes:
AF is a pretty big community, so it's hard to generalize each individual's value, whether they think old threads are useful or not. I like to keep old threads because sometimes those become useful, but (!), I don't mind Mods deciding on a certain cut-off date and closing obsolete threads. That way, such resourceful information can still be viewed by anyone, but won't take replies.

CrateCruncher
12-12-2010, 01:03 PM
I remember somebody made a gorgeous Hasegawa Testa Rossa and then created a cobblestone street out of the cardboard box and a streetlamp out of scrap sprue. What a great thread! But it's old now and we should just forget it because none of the new guys would be interested in seeing that old thing. Who did that thread? I forget.... Anybody remember who did that one?

MPWR
12-12-2010, 01:38 PM
Who did that thread? I forget.... Anybody remember who did that one?

You could try the search feature.... :naughty:

Really this is an age old issue with new members. Ideally, a new member to AF would take a bit of time to get to know the community before doing much posting- but that often isn't what happens. And it is very true that it is not prohibited from dredging up ancient threads and saying "that's cool".

It's always a bit irritating to established members when a new person disregards the rules and etiquette of a community. But fortunately, that's all it is. There are much worse things than a new person expressing genuine enthusiasm, even if in a somewhat graceless way. Very often these new members quickly become regular contributing members- even Klutz_100 became one. (And I remember when a lot of you people were new members! :p)

If ever there seems to be a real problem, the mod staff will step in to rectify things. But otherwise a bit of patience on the part of long time members can help a new person become a real part of this forum- and we all tend to benefit from that.

klutz_100
12-12-2010, 01:58 PM
Who did that thread? I forget.... Anybody remember who did that one?
Yes, that does ring a bell :D

WIP (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=914676&highlight=250tr+out+of+the+box)

COMPLETED (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=916660&highlight=250tr+out+of+the+box)

even Klutz_100 became one.
:iceslolan

keefr22
12-12-2010, 02:27 PM
Really this is an age old issue with new members.

But it's not just with new members - I've been a member of this ''community'' (though I see precious little 'community spirit in some of the other replies in this thread!!) for nearly 5 years & I just very nearly posted on the thread for the superb Mazda Le Mans car that is now at the top of the completed gallery page. It was only because I happened to notice a date of 2009 on one of the replies that I didn't bother! I find it impossible to visit every forum I'm a member of so frequently that I see every thread on them all!! So that brilliant Mazda was a completely new thread to me..... this time I couldn't think of anything new to say that hadn't already been said. If I had had something meaningful to post I would have done - if the thread was 1 year or 10 years old!!

Keef

atlas000
12-12-2010, 10:13 PM
+1 for the value in digging up the nuggets for one more look. I've seen some really nice work in the last few weeks that I probably would have missed altogether. :)

garnet_garnet
12-12-2010, 10:23 PM
i'll post my response to this topic, three years from now :smooch:

voyageur
12-20-2010, 09:48 AM
Come on guys...

As Stevenski and others mentioned before - many of us veterans have made the exact same mistake when we first came here. Heck... I made the mistake myself and got suspended for two weeks or so. I could have said "Nah... I'll go somewhere else then" but I stayed and never ever regretted it :biggrin:

So, if a new member digs up old posts and writes a comment that makes sense or includes a question not answered before >> fine.
Posting things like "Cool!" >> not so fine.
Being a member of such a diverse and skilled community >> priceless!

Just my :2cents:

brady_381need72c10
12-20-2010, 01:52 PM
bandwidth.

thats the first time i heard that here!:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

drunken monkey
12-20-2010, 02:29 PM
thats the first time i heard that here

oh the irony.

klutz_100
12-21-2010, 02:44 AM
oh the irony.

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Drift F.C
12-22-2010, 03:39 AM
The main thing I hate is when someone replies to a post from about the time of Ben Hur and another member comes on not realising the date of the original and posts a reply.

lovegt40
12-22-2010, 07:49 AM
cool ..I like it !!.......


sorry...cant resist !:icon16::icon16::nutkick:

mulsannemike
12-23-2010, 09:25 AM
IMHO, I don't see a problem with it at all.:confused:

I thought this forum was supposed to be a centre for knowledge on our hobby - such an attitude will surely put off interested new members/posters?:nono:

I agree, though unfortunately my first post to this forum was to an old post (one that had incorrect information in it) and the moderator saw fit to pull my post. Suffice to say it was a bad start and put me off.

Ultimately we're all adult enough to over look obvious inane additions to old posts, it's so hard after all...:jerking:

drunken monkey
12-24-2010, 04:44 AM
this is/was an ongoing topic of debate on AF and the rules and what is done to deal with it have changed over the years.
the general concensus is that some lea way is given but mostly it is dependent on the posting habit of the member in question.
as you might imagine, it does get quite annoying when you do a search on a user's posts and the top 100 are all "cool" or "nice job".
also, as pointed out, there is a difference between a meaningful post and one that is less so.


in the past and in particular when AF was going through a database issue because of the sheer size of the entire community, a hard line was drawn and if you were caught up in that then i hope you can understand.

Lambo003
12-27-2010, 08:51 AM
Openin' this thread is like goin' home for Christmas. . .

Inevitably, someone's gonna scream "Why are you diggin' up the past". . .:swear: . . . lol

I shall put another log on the fire . . . Wrap up in my new snuggie and watch the action. . . :evillol:

Was it wrong to bump this thread?. . . Too soon?. . .lol

rsxse240
12-28-2010, 01:40 AM
I read some of the posts in THIS thread and figured out the jist of it. What is the deal with post count anyway? Is it supposed to make you special? If it is, then I'm hear to say you are wasting time. If post count makes you special, then I am SO much more special than a majority of the people who are complaining about it.

Now on to drudging up old posts. If you are not to bring up old posts, and you aren't supposed to ask questions without first searching, what is the reason to archive the forum in the first place?

I have to agree with cinqster in that old stuff will never get revisited unless it's brought back into the light of the newer postings, which to me is a SHAME because there are LOADS of excellent builds that just rot away never to be seen again because some new kid thinks he's a keyboard master and wants to bitch about having to look over an old post from time to time.

Sorry, I'm tired, cranky and I need a smoke...g'night, y'all!

Audiguy
12-28-2010, 08:10 AM
I have heard these complaints on every forum I am on, what is the big deal? The new members are getting to know the site and the old members, so what if they post on an old thread? Jumping in their Sh** for bumping old threads will usually send them packing to another forum. If you don't search the forum, you get yelled at. If you do search the forum, you get yelled at. What's a noob to do?

MPWR
12-28-2010, 08:26 AM
If you don't search the forum, you get yelled at. If you do search the forum, you get yelled at. What's a noob to do?

Get yelled at.

Welcome to AF!!

OnThePike
12-28-2010, 08:42 AM
I have heard these complaints on every forum I am on, what is the big deal? The new members are getting to know the site and the old members, so what if they post on an old thread? Jumping in their Sh** for bumping old threads will usually send them packing to another forum. If you don't search the forum, you get yelled at. If you do search the forum, you get yelled at. What's a noob to do?

The rules on posting in old threads has been relaxed (almost eliminated, with exceptions). For quite some time now.

If you happen to come across any of those old "Sticky" posts warning against posting in old threads, please notify your community leader, or simply "report it" and I or another mod will take care of it.

Regarding the issue itself, use common sense. If something's posted for sale a year ago (or more), chances are it's sold or no longer available. Best to PM the original poster in these cases. However, should you come across a topic posted a year or more ago that could easily blend with current discussion, feel free. Use good judgment, is all.

Hope this helps.

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