Turbo ..... Wannabe?
ricecube77
11-07-2001, 01:13 AM
Have about $3500 with me. I want power, :) But i also want something that won't break down in 60,000 miles or so, even with baby caring.
Was thinking.. what would i need for a turbo on a SR20DE?
Or, if i buy a DET, any ideas on the price for one of these, spare parts prices etc?
I've been readin up on turbo installs and turbo theory (Mike K. is crazy smart)...... Now im all interested :) Was thinking of running 230 or so HP...... is that to the wheel or crank though? T25 turbo with 8psi should do it i've read :0..
HELP IM CLUELESS!
-Phil
Was thinking.. what would i need for a turbo on a SR20DE?
Or, if i buy a DET, any ideas on the price for one of these, spare parts prices etc?
I've been readin up on turbo installs and turbo theory (Mike K. is crazy smart)...... Now im all interested :) Was thinking of running 230 or so HP...... is that to the wheel or crank though? T25 turbo with 8psi should do it i've read :0..
HELP IM CLUELESS!
-Phil
P10DET
11-07-2001, 06:43 AM
Originally posted by ricecube77
Have about $3500 with me. I want power, :) But i also want something that won't break down in 60,000 miles or so, even with baby caring.
Was thinking.. what would i need for a turbo on a SR20DE?
Or, if i buy a DET, any ideas on the price for one of these, spare parts prices etc?
I've been readin up on turbo installs and turbo theory (Mike K. is crazy smart)...... Now im all interested :) Was thinking of running 230 or so HP...... is that to the wheel or crank though? T25 turbo with 8psi should do it i've read :0..
HELP IM CLUELESS!
-Phil
Nah, you're not clueless. You just feel like it. But you've done some homework, and that is better than a lot of folks. You've just come to a stopping point.
OK, here's my recommendation if you want to go turbo. The installation is more than we can do for a geekout, so you are going to end up having to pay someone to do it. At least I've found a shop that will probably be good for this.
DET vs adding a turbo is a toss-up. It's probably more complex to add a turbo since you have to drill and tap the block. Adding a turbo will likely be a little less expensive though and T25s can be had relatively cheaply.
I still think using a DET is the better way to go, but I don't think you have enough budget to get one and pay someone else to isntall it.
BTW, go out and get a will drawn up. Put me down as inheriting your car, because your parents will kill you. :p
Have about $3500 with me. I want power, :) But i also want something that won't break down in 60,000 miles or so, even with baby caring.
Was thinking.. what would i need for a turbo on a SR20DE?
Or, if i buy a DET, any ideas on the price for one of these, spare parts prices etc?
I've been readin up on turbo installs and turbo theory (Mike K. is crazy smart)...... Now im all interested :) Was thinking of running 230 or so HP...... is that to the wheel or crank though? T25 turbo with 8psi should do it i've read :0..
HELP IM CLUELESS!
-Phil
Nah, you're not clueless. You just feel like it. But you've done some homework, and that is better than a lot of folks. You've just come to a stopping point.
OK, here's my recommendation if you want to go turbo. The installation is more than we can do for a geekout, so you are going to end up having to pay someone to do it. At least I've found a shop that will probably be good for this.
DET vs adding a turbo is a toss-up. It's probably more complex to add a turbo since you have to drill and tap the block. Adding a turbo will likely be a little less expensive though and T25s can be had relatively cheaply.
I still think using a DET is the better way to go, but I don't think you have enough budget to get one and pay someone else to isntall it.
BTW, go out and get a will drawn up. Put me down as inheriting your car, because your parents will kill you. :p
NismoPC
11-07-2001, 06:44 AM
Pick up the Nov'01 Issue of Sport Compact. Our own George Roffe goes through an entire SR20DE to SR20DET swap into a P10. It is of great interest if you are looking into this type of swap.
Mrcoilover
11-07-2001, 11:54 AM
Congradulations on being in SSC P10DET. You must be proud. I will be picking one up to see how good you did on the write-up. he he .
ricecube77
11-07-2001, 03:20 PM
Funny that u mention the parents thing...
In all actuality, i think they would support me on this, haha.
If i end up being able to get a turbo for this car, im going to keep it.
See..... my parents want to buy me a car for graduation.. im getting into U-T Austin with a 100% free ride, WOOHA. So, instead of me making them pay for college, they buy me a car.
So, its come down to....
Subaru WRX, Honda s2000, or being able to spend big bucks for big bang on my G20. If i end up getting a totally new car, Most likely gonna try to sell it for around 7-8 k or so... depending.
I'd think my parents would save arouund 12k with me getting a DET instead of a new car ;p
Don't know....
How much are NEW DET's (Where would i get one.. Luke?)
And how much are used DET's around ..... say.... a reliable 30k miles ;p
Then, compare a t3/t04 hybrid turbo...... and sticking that in my car. I'd compare the prices, but none of the se-r project cars list prices.... Although i do agree the T25 is too small revving at 250000RPM.
If anyone can get me an approximate price for a t3/t04 hybrid install vs DET install, would be appreciated. :)
*Geo, whats the shop that your talking about? And... if i manage to get a DET, ,can i just swap it with a DE straight up, or do i have to replace this and that and junk.....?
Geebus..... I've lost my mind.
-Phil
In all actuality, i think they would support me on this, haha.
If i end up being able to get a turbo for this car, im going to keep it.
See..... my parents want to buy me a car for graduation.. im getting into U-T Austin with a 100% free ride, WOOHA. So, instead of me making them pay for college, they buy me a car.
So, its come down to....
Subaru WRX, Honda s2000, or being able to spend big bucks for big bang on my G20. If i end up getting a totally new car, Most likely gonna try to sell it for around 7-8 k or so... depending.
I'd think my parents would save arouund 12k with me getting a DET instead of a new car ;p
Don't know....
How much are NEW DET's (Where would i get one.. Luke?)
And how much are used DET's around ..... say.... a reliable 30k miles ;p
Then, compare a t3/t04 hybrid turbo...... and sticking that in my car. I'd compare the prices, but none of the se-r project cars list prices.... Although i do agree the T25 is too small revving at 250000RPM.
If anyone can get me an approximate price for a t3/t04 hybrid install vs DET install, would be appreciated. :)
*Geo, whats the shop that your talking about? And... if i manage to get a DET, ,can i just swap it with a DE straight up, or do i have to replace this and that and junk.....?
Geebus..... I've lost my mind.
-Phil
P10DET
11-07-2001, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by ricecube77
Funny that u mention the parents thing...
In all actuality, i think they would support me on this, haha.
If i end up being able to get a turbo for this car, im going to keep it.
See..... my parents want to buy me a car for graduation.. im getting into U-T Austin with a 100% free ride, WOOHA. So, instead of me making them pay for college, they buy me a car.
Whoa dude! Full ride? Way to go!
Originally posted by ricecube77
So, its come down to....
Subaru WRX, Honda s2000, or being able to spend big bucks for big bang on my G20.
A well prepared turbo G20 will kick the WRX's ass on all but wet and otherwise slick surfaces.
Both of those are cool cars though.
Originally posted by ricecube77
How much are NEW DET's (Where would i get one.. Luke?)
I doubt you could buy a new AWD DET these days. A factory remanufactured one (just as good) would probably run $10k or more. Basically, you could buy a core engine and have someone build you a killer tubo engine from top to bottom for less.
Originally posted by ricecube77
And how much are used DET's around ..... say.... a reliable 30k miles ;p
Anywhere from $1,300-$1,700.
Originally posted by ricecube77
Then, compare a t3/t04 hybrid turbo...... and sticking that in my car.
From mid $3k to however much you have, can borrow, or otherwise get your hands on.
Originally posted by ricecube77
*Geo, whats the shop that your talking about? And... if i manage to get a DET, ,can i just swap it with a DE straight up, or do i have to replace this and that and junk.....?
It's Scott's or Scotty's or something like that. I have to find my Houston SCCA newsletter. That's how I found them. They are just north of the Katy Freeway and just west of the Beltway. I'll find it for you.
Funny that u mention the parents thing...
In all actuality, i think they would support me on this, haha.
If i end up being able to get a turbo for this car, im going to keep it.
See..... my parents want to buy me a car for graduation.. im getting into U-T Austin with a 100% free ride, WOOHA. So, instead of me making them pay for college, they buy me a car.
Whoa dude! Full ride? Way to go!
Originally posted by ricecube77
So, its come down to....
Subaru WRX, Honda s2000, or being able to spend big bucks for big bang on my G20.
A well prepared turbo G20 will kick the WRX's ass on all but wet and otherwise slick surfaces.
Both of those are cool cars though.
Originally posted by ricecube77
How much are NEW DET's (Where would i get one.. Luke?)
I doubt you could buy a new AWD DET these days. A factory remanufactured one (just as good) would probably run $10k or more. Basically, you could buy a core engine and have someone build you a killer tubo engine from top to bottom for less.
Originally posted by ricecube77
And how much are used DET's around ..... say.... a reliable 30k miles ;p
Anywhere from $1,300-$1,700.
Originally posted by ricecube77
Then, compare a t3/t04 hybrid turbo...... and sticking that in my car.
From mid $3k to however much you have, can borrow, or otherwise get your hands on.
Originally posted by ricecube77
*Geo, whats the shop that your talking about? And... if i manage to get a DET, ,can i just swap it with a DE straight up, or do i have to replace this and that and junk.....?
It's Scott's or Scotty's or something like that. I have to find my Houston SCCA newsletter. That's how I found them. They are just north of the Katy Freeway and just west of the Beltway. I'll find it for you.
pche059
11-07-2001, 09:07 PM
Oh you lucky bastard
:D
sounds like there is going to be another FAST Primera out there :)
:D
sounds like there is going to be another FAST Primera out there :)
ricecube77
11-07-2001, 11:52 PM
DET it is.
Now..... finding out if i get into UT. Muahah!
So.... if im correct.....
I'll need about 2500 total to get a DET into my badboy silver G20?
Does a DET click in directly to replace the DE? (with the stock top mount intercooler) ?
If i want to move it in front of the radiator.. i guess i'll have to fabricate my own piping like yours eh?
-Phil
P.S. Thanks for the help everyone...... :)..
Primera? Boo, i consider US "Primeras" simply as "G"s... :) I'm not into the euro theme, ha ha j/k :)
Now..... finding out if i get into UT. Muahah!
So.... if im correct.....
I'll need about 2500 total to get a DET into my badboy silver G20?
Does a DET click in directly to replace the DE? (with the stock top mount intercooler) ?
If i want to move it in front of the radiator.. i guess i'll have to fabricate my own piping like yours eh?
-Phil
P.S. Thanks for the help everyone...... :)..
Primera? Boo, i consider US "Primeras" simply as "G"s... :) I'm not into the euro theme, ha ha j/k :)
ricecube77
11-08-2001, 01:26 AM
After talking to luke...
if i want it done right.....
gotta get new pulleys hoses belts etc etc etc.....
Looking more toward... 4k with me doing install, haha.
How much did scotty's charge ya for swap? Or did u do the majority of it yourself George?
-Phil
if i want it done right.....
gotta get new pulleys hoses belts etc etc etc.....
Looking more toward... 4k with me doing install, haha.
How much did scotty's charge ya for swap? Or did u do the majority of it yourself George?
-Phil
P10DET
11-08-2001, 06:42 AM
Originally posted by ricecube77
After talking to luke...
if i want it done right.....
gotta get new pulleys hoses belts etc etc etc.....
Looking more toward... 4k with me doing install, haha.
Yep.
Originally posted by ricecube77
How much did scotty's charge ya for swap? Or did u do the majority of it yourself George?
What? :rolleyes:
I did everything myself.
After talking to luke...
if i want it done right.....
gotta get new pulleys hoses belts etc etc etc.....
Looking more toward... 4k with me doing install, haha.
Yep.
Originally posted by ricecube77
How much did scotty's charge ya for swap? Or did u do the majority of it yourself George?
What? :rolleyes:
I did everything myself.
ricecube77
11-08-2001, 07:56 AM
Now to find some sap that wants a project. .... hee hee j/k.
Ugh.
Life's a b*tch aint it?
Ugh.
Life's a b*tch aint it?
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