Rear Seal
sportsnut
10-31-2010, 10:15 PM
2004 Gmc 2500HD having trouble with rear axe wheel seal leaks. I have been thighting the spindle nut to 52 ft lb. But hub still moves side to side and up and down is this normal. Tried new hub and bearings and races. Want am i doing wrong.
inafogg
10-31-2010, 10:42 PM
2wh or 4wh !!! what is the problem grease on brakes??
did you replace inner seal??
did you replace inner seal??
sportsnut
10-31-2010, 10:51 PM
4 wheel drive, new seal not sure on spindle nut torgue. no grease on brakes. The hub is to loose and moves up & down need proper tougue.
inafogg
10-31-2010, 11:21 PM
is race in straight???
you can tighten it up tight!! spin/rotate drum while tightening
to seat every thing, then back off and retorque
you can tighten it up tight!! spin/rotate drum while tightening
to seat every thing, then back off and retorque
sportsnut
10-31-2010, 11:35 PM
I did turn the hub ccw while tighting the spindle nut. I was told to torque the spindle nut to 52 ft lbs then back of spindle nut then tighten with fingers only is this right. Our do you do it the old way without a torgue wrench and just go till it gets tight then back it off a 1/4 turn. the races where straight seal went in easy and same with the snap ring.
inafogg
11-01-2010, 01:00 PM
go ahead tighten it up as much as you can(usually by hand)
that should remove play then back off & adjust
what is the problem drum wont seat or seal is leaking
if seal is leaking are we talking gear/axle oil???
not sure what your trying to fix sounds like 2 problems
a leak & excessive drum play???
mike
that should remove play then back off & adjust
what is the problem drum wont seat or seal is leaking
if seal is leaking are we talking gear/axle oil???
not sure what your trying to fix sounds like 2 problems
a leak & excessive drum play???
mike
sportsnut
11-01-2010, 05:50 PM
Hi Mike
The Problem is that I am trying to tight my Hub to the axe! It seems to have to much play when I tighten to 52 Ft lbs which I beliveve is the rights spec for the spindle nut but I am not sure? Do you have the right spec for this. PS I have discs not drums and it is the axe seal on the spindle that leaks
The Problem is that I am trying to tight my Hub to the axe! It seems to have to much play when I tighten to 52 Ft lbs which I beliveve is the rights spec for the spindle nut but I am not sure? Do you have the right spec for this. PS I have discs not drums and it is the axe seal on the spindle that leaks
inafogg
11-01-2010, 08:31 PM
maybe this will help??
To install:
Place the outer bearing into the hub. The larger outside diameter of the bearing should face the outer end of the hub. Drive the bearing into the hub using a washer that will cover both the inner and outer races of the bearing. Place a socket on top of this washer, then drive the bearing into place with a series of light taps. If available, an arbor press should be used for this job.
Drive the bearing past the snapring groove, and install the snapring. Then, turning the hub assembly over, drive the bearing back against the snapring. Protect the bearing by placing a washer on top of it. You can use the thrust washer that fits between the bearing and the adjusting nut for the job.
Place the inner bearing into the hub. The thick edge should be toward the shoulder in the hub. Press the bearing into the hub until it seats against the shoulder, using a washer and socket as outlined earlier. Make certain that the bearing is not cocked and that it is fully seated on the shoulder.
Pack the cavity between the oil seal lips with wheel bearing grease, and position it in the hub bore. Carefully press it into place on top of the inner bearing.
Pack the wheel bearings with grease, and lightly coat the inside diameter of the hub bearing contact surface and the outside diameter of the axle housing tube.
Make sure that the inner bearing, oil seal, axle housing oil deflector, and outer bearing are properly positioned. Install the hub and drum assembly on the axle housing, being careful so as not to damage the oil seal or dislocate other internal components.
Install the thrust washer so that the tang on the inside diameter of the washer is in the keyway on the axle housing.
Install the adjusting nut. Tighten to 50 ft. lbs. (68 Nm) while rotating the hub. Back off the nut 1 / 4 turn and retighten to 35 ft. lbs. (47 Nm) on models with the 11 inch ring gear and 13 ft. lbs. (17 Nm) on models with the 10 1 / 2 inch ring gear.
Install the tanged retainer against the inner adjusting nut. Align the adjusting nut so that the short tang of the retainer will engage the nearest slot on the adjusting nut.
Install the outer locknut and tighten to 65 ft. lbs. (88 Nm). Bend the long tang of the retainer into the slot of the outer nut. This method of adjustment should provide 0.001-0.010 in. (0.0254-0.254mm) end-play.
Place a new gasket over the axle shaft and position the axle shaft in the housing so that the shaft splines enter the differential side gear. Position the gasket so that the holes are in alignment, and install the flange-to-hub attaching bolts. Tighten to 115 ft. lbs. (156 Nm) on models with the 10 1 / 2 inch ring gear and tighten the axle cap bolts on models with the 11 inch ring gear to 15 ft. lbs. (20 Nm)
To install:
Place the outer bearing into the hub. The larger outside diameter of the bearing should face the outer end of the hub. Drive the bearing into the hub using a washer that will cover both the inner and outer races of the bearing. Place a socket on top of this washer, then drive the bearing into place with a series of light taps. If available, an arbor press should be used for this job.
Drive the bearing past the snapring groove, and install the snapring. Then, turning the hub assembly over, drive the bearing back against the snapring. Protect the bearing by placing a washer on top of it. You can use the thrust washer that fits between the bearing and the adjusting nut for the job.
Place the inner bearing into the hub. The thick edge should be toward the shoulder in the hub. Press the bearing into the hub until it seats against the shoulder, using a washer and socket as outlined earlier. Make certain that the bearing is not cocked and that it is fully seated on the shoulder.
Pack the cavity between the oil seal lips with wheel bearing grease, and position it in the hub bore. Carefully press it into place on top of the inner bearing.
Pack the wheel bearings with grease, and lightly coat the inside diameter of the hub bearing contact surface and the outside diameter of the axle housing tube.
Make sure that the inner bearing, oil seal, axle housing oil deflector, and outer bearing are properly positioned. Install the hub and drum assembly on the axle housing, being careful so as not to damage the oil seal or dislocate other internal components.
Install the thrust washer so that the tang on the inside diameter of the washer is in the keyway on the axle housing.
Install the adjusting nut. Tighten to 50 ft. lbs. (68 Nm) while rotating the hub. Back off the nut 1 / 4 turn and retighten to 35 ft. lbs. (47 Nm) on models with the 11 inch ring gear and 13 ft. lbs. (17 Nm) on models with the 10 1 / 2 inch ring gear.
Install the tanged retainer against the inner adjusting nut. Align the adjusting nut so that the short tang of the retainer will engage the nearest slot on the adjusting nut.
Install the outer locknut and tighten to 65 ft. lbs. (88 Nm). Bend the long tang of the retainer into the slot of the outer nut. This method of adjustment should provide 0.001-0.010 in. (0.0254-0.254mm) end-play.
Place a new gasket over the axle shaft and position the axle shaft in the housing so that the shaft splines enter the differential side gear. Position the gasket so that the holes are in alignment, and install the flange-to-hub attaching bolts. Tighten to 115 ft. lbs. (156 Nm) on models with the 10 1 / 2 inch ring gear and tighten the axle cap bolts on models with the 11 inch ring gear to 15 ft. lbs. (20 Nm)
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