What do you think of this guy ??...

check this guy out , he is a grade A Asshole. What do you think of him ???

I think he deserves death
"Since the U.S. Zionist Occupationist Government(ZOG) has attacked Iraq, the Arab countries should impose a oil embargo on the U.S.. They should ask that the U.N. to form a International Army which will disarm Israel of it's weapons of mass distruction, including its nuclear weapons, and return Palistine to Palistinian control from its Zionist repressors, using what ever force is necessary.
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IN MEMORY OF SADDAM AND ALL THE BRAVE IRAQIS THAT STOOD UP TO THE U.S. ZOG. NOW THE IRAQIS WILL BE SUPPRESSED BY THE JEWS THAT ARE IN CONTROL OF THE WESTERN SOCIETIES. WHOES NEXT? WHITE PEOPLE WAKE UP AND RISE UP AGAINST THIS TYRANNY. "

check the link , grade A asshole material
http://members.odinsrage.com/wwmp/. (http://members.odinsrage.com/wwmp/)

funny site and not worthy of viewing

----In 1900 one in four people in the world were Caucasians.Today only one in twelve people in the world are Caucasians.If this continues, by the end of this century Caucasian people will be in danger of extinction. The main goal of WWMP is to reverse this trend. :hehehe:

if the kkk and other white spremecy(sp) groups are aginst any other race and such....why put in memory of saddam?? he ain't white:silly2:

WTF!!!






Damn rednecks shoudn't be allowed computers:rolleyes:

Can't be bothered even looking at the link.:rolleyes: Race hate is for morons.

hehe is batshit insane !!! I dont know how people like him even encountered a computer. Noitice his name is nowhere on his site. He's a pussy too , if he really supported all that crap he says his name would be displayed proudly. I hope he get backed over by a semi and is allowed to slowly asphyxiate. DIE !!!

These guys have a huge potential to be dangerous, lads. They are crazy SOBs, but dangerous nonetheless.

I hope they never group together....

Originally posted by BigJustinZ28
check this guy out , he is a grade A Asshole. What do you think of him ???

I think he deserves death
"Since the U.S. Zionist Occupationist Government(ZOG) has attacked Iraq, the Arab countries should impose a oil embargo on the U.S.. They should ask that the U.N. to form a International Army which will disarm Israel of it's weapons of mass distruction, including its nuclear weapons, and return Palistine to Palistinian control from its Zionist repressors, using what ever force is necessary.
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IN MEMORY OF SADDAM AND ALL THE BRAVE IRAQIS THAT STOOD UP TO THE U.S. ZOG. NOW THE IRAQIS WILL BE SUPPRESSED BY THE JEWS THAT ARE IN CONTROL OF THE WESTERN SOCIETIES. WHOES NEXT? WHITE PEOPLE WAKE UP AND RISE UP AGAINST THIS TYRANNY. "

check the link , grade A asshole material
http://members.odinsrage.com/wwmp/. (http://members.odinsrage.com/wwmp/)


Yay another peice of blame the Jews claptrap

Well although the site is all whacked lmao. (gota love the music) the fact is palestine and the surrounding regions were partitioned by colonial powers without any real regards to the local people. While palestine and transjordan (which became jordan) were under the british mandate huge imigration happened of jews comign into palestine for various reasons. Hertzl wrote "The Jewish State" before The Holocaust to begin with.

Anywho Israel was under Israeli control last by Salome Alexandra between 76-66BC. What followed was roman rule with puppet israeli kings (in other words it was a roman colony no real Jewish rule). Afterwards around 390 something (i think 395), turks basically contol Israel. Then years and years pass the Jewish people do not have control over Israel. Only after the British mandate ends in 1946 do israelis get Israel after the fall of Ottoman. Prior to that there is almost no Jewish people there, during Islamic rule Jews were allowed but prior to that it was pagans and what not in that region...

Hertzl's biggest opponent in establishing an Israeli state was the ottoman empire. So the zionist party basically allies itself with britain and france (oh man and there was times when zionists tried to ally with germany.. of course.. in the end the jewish ppl were killed by germans but.. there was all sorta attempts to create an israeli state).

The balfour declaration promotes the idea of creating an israeli state without the prejudice of the civil and religious rights of the existing non-jewish people.. of course that was not followed.

"For in Palestine we do not propose even to go through the form of consulting the wishes of the present inhabitants of the country, though the American (King-Crane) commission has been going through the form of asking what they are. The four great powers are committed to Zionism and Zionism, be it right or wrong, good or bad, is rooted in age-long tradition, in present needs, in future hopes, of far profounder import than the desires and prejudices of the 700,000 Arabs who now inhabit that ancient land (quoted in Noam Chomsky, The Fateful Triangle (Boston, 1983), 90)."

I got that quote just for this heh...

The king crane commission in the US says this:

"the Zionists looked forward to a practically complete dispossession of the present non-Jewish inhabitants of Palestine"

Due to the fact that the brish get a mandate they set to create an israeli state.

“It’s not a matter of maintaining the status quo. We have to create a dynamic state, oriented towards expansion.” --Ben Gurion

not quite something positive.. expansion? ya and then what happens..

there is continuing immigration (this is all before holocaust) and the arabs get upset their land is being inhabitted all of a sudden by foreigners.. and as the passifield white paper said:

”Arabs have come to see in Jewish immigration not only a menace to their livelihood but a possible overlord of the future"

Let me remind you in 1939 the US denied entry to Jews... The holocaust .. the shoa.. began.. did the US know? Well.. no .. but who truly knows..

Then the israeli terrorist groups attack the locals.. king david hotel bombing (remember that?)

The irgun gang, the other gangs.. heh.. menachum begin who was a hawk did not want no damn peace it was all expansion. What about deir yassin?

"The Partition of Palestine is illegal. It will never be recognized .... Jerusalem was and will for ever be our capital. Eretz Israel will be restored to the people of Israel. All of it. And for Ever." (Iron Wall p. 25 &* Simha Falpan, p. 32)

A firm Iron wall believer ;/

november 29 1947 western palestine was jewish and an arab state the jews had 56% of the land...

legally the jews owned 7% of the land (purchased from arab landlords who were not even present in palestine). at that time 34% of the ppl were now jewish in palestine (after mass immigration).

the irgun gang bombs buses and other civillian places.. (december 1947 mind i remind u) but of course they are 'their own' but honestly who really sponsored their views?

Between 1947 to 1948 780,000 Palestinian are forced to emigrate from Palestine. 416 Palestinian villages are destroyed..... on april 9th 254 palestinean woman, children and elderly are massacred... (deir yassin), and yes on the 13th arabs retaliate killing 77 doctors heading to hadassah hospital. Israel then becomes independant in 1948.

What about the Yitzhak Shamir’s Stern Gang who assassinate a UN peace mediator Count Bernadotte who wanted to change the unfair partition... Saved 20,000 Jews during the holocaust.. but then fought for the rights of return for palestineans to palestine.. and boom he gets shot. The the local arabs mobilize for defense of the palestineans. jordan takes over east jerusalem and a large part of th ewest bank... what did it do? Israel now possesed 76% of the country as opposed to 56% earlier. Blabla armistice agreement takes place.. Then some other crap takes place in between both sides trying to regain or gain.. six day war starts..

Here's some interesting quotes:

The former Commander of the Air Force, General Ezer Weitzman, regarded as a hawk, stated that there was 'no threat of destruction' but that the attack on Egypt, Jordan and Syria was nevertheless justified so that Israel could 'exist according the scale, spirit, and quality she now embodies.'...Menahem Begin had the following remarks to make: 'In June 1967, we again had a choice. The Egyptian Army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.' "Noam Chomsky, "The Fateful Triangle."

“Moshe Dayan, the celebrated commander who, as Defense Minister in 1967, gave the order to conquer the Golan...[said] many of the firefights with the Syrians were deliberately provoked by Israel, and the kibbutz residents who pressed the Government to take the Golan Heights did so less for security than for the farmland...[Dayan stated] 'They didn't even try to hide their greed for the land...We would send a tractor to plow some area where it wasn't possible to do anything, in the demilitarized area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start to shoot. If they didn't shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance further, until in the end the Syrians would get annoyed and shoot. And then we would use artillery and later the air force also, and that's how it was...The Syrians, on the fourth day of the war, were not a threat to us.'" The New York Times, May 11, 1997

Up till 73 (i think i forget heh?) Israel then didnt go back to the armistice lines it stayed at what it now invaded. It was waaay beyond palestine it included all surrounding arab countries.

Now I could go on but im sure few really care lol.. I think these videos would explain a few things (wow what a contrast in the media, maybe there was no bias as there is now):

http://www.cbc.ca/news/features/mideast_history/video.html

Also Israel broke 65 UN resolutions (25 were veto'd by the US would have made 90 UN resolutions in turn lol.. geneva convention and other international law is broken too). Bah but what can the UN do? nil..

People must remind themselves, Israel came out of nowhere from an ideal through various unethical immoral and non-judaic practices... The zionists are not all jews, they include right-wing christians (people like Wingate, Palmach).. Like the fedayeen and actually palestinean terrorist organizations are considered muslim now.. the truth is they were christian, muslim and secular .. it was all palestineans defending their native land.

Today palestineans are considered terrorists and israel is defending its land.. but forgetting to mention how that land came to be :/

The israeli government which is right-wing jewish and zionist thinks they can rewrite history :/ That is very sad for the real jews and the jews who suffered under the nazis in the shoa.. the holocaust.. Seriously.. let the poor dead souls rest and stop claiming them as victims for your own evil... the right wing jews and zionists go against judaic teachings.. or make their own as they go.. sad...

http://www.cactus48.com/truth.html
http://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/
http://www.junity.org/
http://www.jfjfp.org/
http://www.nimn.org/
http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/

There are many more.... I'm afraid as in that video.. the western world still thinks the Zionists and right-wing jews are defending themselves and not occupying a native people's land..

Don't forget the last time an Israeli Prime Minister truly wished for peace he was asassinated....

Also wished to say heh.. u know.. Israel is the only real WMD equiped nation in that region.. and since the 60s... plus Israel has attacked every single neighbour in the region :) You can not evade facts lol.. There is therefore an obvious bias in the US towards the pro-israel statehood. Lots of doublestandards in other words agendas.. not good will to help stop 'regimes'.. which mind u were supported by the US when it was in US interest..

Originally posted by gigatron
Well although the site is all whacked lmao. (gota love the music) the fact is palestine and the surrounding regions were partitioned by colonial powers without any real regards to the local people. While palestine and transjordan (which became jordan) were under the british mandate huge imigration happened of jews comign into palestine for various reasons. Hertzl wrote "The Jewish State" before The Holocaust to begin with.

Anywho Israel was under Israeli control last by Salome Alexandra between 76-66BC. What followed was roman rule with puppet israeli kings (in other words it was a roman colony no real Jewish rule). Afterwards around 390 something (i think 395), turks basically contol Israel. Then years and years pass the Jewish people do not have control over Israel. Only after the British mandate ends in 1946 do israelis get Israel after the fall of Ottoman. Prior to that there is almost no Jewish people there, during Islamic rule Jews were allowed but prior to that it was pagans and what not in that region...

Hertzl's biggest opponent in establishing an Israeli state was the ottoman empire. So the zionist party basically allies itself with britain and france (oh man and there was times when zionists tried to ally with germany.. of course.. in the end the jewish ppl were killed by germans but.. there was all sorta attempts to create an israeli state).

The balfour declaration promotes the idea of creating an israeli state without the prejudice of the civil and religious rights of the existing non-jewish people.. of course that was not followed.

"For in Palestine we do not propose even to go through the form of consulting the wishes of the present inhabitants of the country, though the American (King-Crane) commission has been going through the form of asking what they are. The four great powers are committed to Zionism and Zionism, be it right or wrong, good or bad, is rooted in age-long tradition, in present needs, in future hopes, of far profounder import than the desires and prejudices of the 700,000 Arabs who now inhabit that ancient land (quoted in Noam Chomsky, The Fateful Triangle (Boston, 1983), 90)."

I got that quote just for this heh...

The king crane commission in the US says this:

"the Zionists looked forward to a practically complete dispossession of the present non-Jewish inhabitants of Palestine"

Due to the fact that the brish get a mandate they set to create an israeli state.

“It’s not a matter of maintaining the status quo. We have to create a dynamic state, oriented towards expansion.” --Ben Gurion

not quite something positive.. expansion? ya and then what happens..

there is continuing immigration (this is all before holocaust) and the arabs get upset their land is being inhabitted all of a sudden by foreigners.. and as the passifield white paper said:

”Arabs have come to see in Jewish immigration not only a menace to their livelihood but a possible overlord of the future"

Let me remind you in 1939 the US denied entry to Jews... The holocaust .. the shoa.. began.. did the US know? Well.. no .. but who truly knows..

Then the israeli terrorist groups attack the locals.. king david hotel bombing (remember that?)

The irgun gang, the other gangs.. heh.. menachum begin who was a hawk did not want no damn peace it was all expansion. What about deir yassin?

"The Partition of Palestine is illegal. It will never be recognized .... Jerusalem was and will for ever be our capital. Eretz Israel will be restored to the people of Israel. All of it. And for Ever." (Iron Wall p. 25 &* Simha Falpan, p. 32)

A firm Iron wall believer ;/

november 29 1947 western palestine was jewish and an arab state the jews had 56% of the land...

legally the jews owned 7% of the land (purchased from arab landlords who were not even present in palestine). at that time 34% of the ppl were now jewish in palestine (after mass immigration).

the irgun gang bombs buses and other civillian places.. (december 1947 mind i remind u) but of course they are 'their own' but honestly who really sponsored their views?

Between 1947 to 1948 780,000 Palestinian are forced to emigrate from Palestine. 416 Palestinian villages are destroyed..... on april 9th 254 palestinean woman, children and elderly are massacred... (deir yassin), and yes on the 13th arabs retaliate killing 77 doctors heading to hadassah hospital. Israel then becomes independant in 1948.

What about the Yitzhak Shamir’s Stern Gang who assassinate a UN peace mediator Count Bernadotte who wanted to change the unfair partition... Saved 20,000 Jews during the holocaust.. but then fought for the rights of return for palestineans to palestine.. and boom he gets shot. The the local arabs mobilize for defense of the palestineans. jordan takes over east jerusalem and a large part of th ewest bank... what did it do? Israel now possesed 76% of the country as opposed to 56% earlier. Blabla armistice agreement takes place.. Then some other crap takes place in between both sides trying to regain or gain.. six day war starts..

Here's some interesting quotes:

The former Commander of the Air Force, General Ezer Weitzman, regarded as a hawk, stated that there was 'no threat of destruction' but that the attack on Egypt, Jordan and Syria was nevertheless justified so that Israel could 'exist according the scale, spirit, and quality she now embodies.'...Menahem Begin had the following remarks to make: 'In June 1967, we again had a choice. The Egyptian Army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.' "Noam Chomsky, "The Fateful Triangle."

“Moshe Dayan, the celebrated commander who, as Defense Minister in 1967, gave the order to conquer the Golan...[said] many of the firefights with the Syrians were deliberately provoked by Israel, and the kibbutz residents who pressed the Government to take the Golan Heights did so less for security than for the farmland...[Dayan stated] 'They didn't even try to hide their greed for the land...We would send a tractor to plow some area where it wasn't possible to do anything, in the demilitarized area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start to shoot. If they didn't shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance further, until in the end the Syrians would get annoyed and shoot. And then we would use artillery and later the air force also, and that's how it was...The Syrians, on the fourth day of the war, were not a threat to us.'" The New York Times, May 11, 1997

Up till 73 (i think i forget heh?) Israel then didnt go back to the armistice lines it stayed at what it now invaded. It was waaay beyond palestine it included all surrounding arab countries.

Now I could go on but im sure few really care lol.. I think these videos would explain a few things (wow what a contrast in the media, maybe there was no bias as there is now):

http://www.cbc.ca/news/features/mideast_history/video.html

Also Israel broke 65 UN resolutions (25 were veto'd by the US would have made 90 UN resolutions in turn lol.. geneva convention and other international law is broken too). Bah but what can the UN do? nil..

People must remind themselves, Israel came out of nowhere from an ideal through various unethical immoral and non-judaic practices... The zionists are not all jews, they include right-wing christians (people like Wingate, Palmach).. Like the fedayeen and actually palestinean terrorist organizations are considered muslim now.. the truth is they were christian, muslim and secular .. it was all palestineans defending their native land.

Today palestineans are considered terrorists and israel is defending its land.. but forgetting to mention how that land came to be :/

The israeli government which is right-wing jewish and zionist thinks they can rewrite history :/ That is very sad for the real jews and the jews who suffered under the nazis in the shoa.. the holocaust.. Seriously.. let the poor dead souls rest and stop claiming them as victims for your own evil... the right wing jews and zionists go against judaic teachings.. or make their own as they go.. sad...

http://www.cactus48.com/truth.html
http://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/
http://www.junity.org/
http://www.jfjfp.org/
http://www.nimn.org/
http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/

There are many more.... I'm afraid as in that video.. the western world still thinks the Zionists and right-wing jews are defending themselves and not occupying a native people's land..

Don't forget the last time an Israeli Prime Minister truly wished for peace he was asassinated....

Its 11:39, and I cant write a big ling reply now, but if your quoting Noam Chomsky, aka biggest self-hating jew on earth, you know your gonna be pro-palestinian.

http://jewishinternetassociation.org/historynutshell/conflict.html

Watch that, tell me what you think...

LoL I think whoever made that had lapses in memories and amnesia.. gotta love the BS and exageration of animations... obviously a pro-israeli statehood non-true jewish site .. just pro-zionist in other words bs.. Gah its sad how zionists rewrite history.. Please watch those videos i think the time lapse might need a refreshing soda pop..

I just love the fact that flash doesnt show ANY mention of what israel did and it assumes israel was always there to begin with lol...

LOL Oh and hahaha notice how the 1970s the invaded space by israel is just shown as israel no real comment on that :)

Oh and pro-palestinean? Why the hell not? They are the victims here... Israel can NOT claim its defending itself when israel's continuing expansion is no different then terrorism.. tanks vs rocks.. plz.. How did israel come to be? that flash video is a damn joke.. I felt sick lol.. it like doesnt mention anything it just shows a pic of israeli invaded areas and voila.. doesnt mention a single thing of what israel did that made the neighbours angered.. just shows the now established israel as a victim..

You are forgetting the fact that REAL jews who dont rely on secular racist beliefs as put about by hertzl but who rely on the torah support the palestineans... The zionist beliefs go against the torah.. and when they do the zionists make their own set of rules..

Also under the UN mandate lol.. Israel's capital is tel aviv not jerusalem mind u.. somehow though israel presents jerusalem as its capital... sigh.. history rewriting.. double standards.. it begins to be almost funny... alas its very sad.

You may claim what you want, but real Jews are in support of palestineans because zionism is racist... and is based on false beliefs using the torah in the way it wants.. God's chosen people? Be racist to everyone else? No the Jewish Zionists.. use the torah through personal selfmotivated interpretations ... not the wider meanings.. A real Jew who believes in Yheow Alehom... one and only God, the God of Abraham, Moses and all the others... will not follow zionism because Zionism goes against the Torah and the true beliefs.. say what you want and if you consider yourself a Jew you merely consider and label yourself a Jew.. but you bypass the everlasting laws in your own interests... or wish to attain your way through non-Judaic means as was the case of the zionist movement...

Originally posted by gigatron
LoL I think whoever made that had lapses in memories and amnesia.. gotta love the BS and exageration of animations... obviously a pro-israeli statehood non-true jewish site .. just pro-zionist in other words bs.. Gah its sad how zionists rewrite history.. Please watch those videos i think the time lapse might need a refreshing soda pop..

I just love the fact that flash doesnt show ANY mention of what israel did and it assumes israel was always there to begin with lol...

LOL Oh and hahaha notice how the 1970s the invaded space by israel is just shown as israel no real comment on that :)

Oh and pro-palestinean? Why the hell not? They are the victims here... Israel can NOT claim its defending itself when israel's continuing expansion is no different then terrorism.. tanks vs rocks.. plz.. How did israel come to be? that flash video is a damn joke.. I felt sick lol.. it like doesnt mention anything it just shows a pic of israeli invaded areas and voila.. doesnt mention a single thing of what israel did that made the neighbours angered.. just shows the now established israel as a victim..

You are forgetting the fact that REAL jews who dont rely on secular racist beliefs as put about by hertzl but who rely on the torah support the palestineans... The zionist beliefs go against the torah.. and when they do the zionists make their own set of rules..

Also under the UN mandate lol.. Israel's capital is tel aviv not jerusalem mind u.. somehow though israel presents jerusalem as its capital... sigh.. history rewriting.. double standards.. it begins to be almost funny... alas its very sad.

You may claim what you want, but real Jews are in support of palestineans because zionism is racist... and is based on false beliefs using the torah in the way it wants.. God's chosen people? Be racist to everyone else? No the Jewish Zionists.. use the torah through personal selfmotivated interpretations ... not the wider meanings.. A real Jew who believes in Yheow Alehom... one and only God, the God of Abraham, Moses and all the others... will not follow zionism because Zionism goes against the Torah and the true beliefs.. say what you want and if you consider yourself a Jew you merely consider and label yourself a Jew.. but you bypass the everlasting laws in your own interests... or wish to attain your way through non-Judaic means as was the case of the zionist movement...

Excuse me....REAL JEWS..wtf are you talking about...either your qutie learned, and are a self-hating jew, or you have waayy too much time on your hands . I'm a Jew...I;m a Zionist...

Victims...what about the families of suicide bombers, or drive-by shooters, or the militants who invade KIBUTTZIM, the most left-wing institutions within Israel, and kill BABIES...

Has someone you love ever been killed or injured by a suicide bomber..or what about a rock

Part of the reason the Palestinians live in such squalor is that the PLO(specifically Arafat) is incredibly corrupt. Ever see the footage on CNN where they're driving around in 745i's and S600's? Or the militant leaders houses with Marble bathrooms?

I won't change your opinion, so this is pointless, and all we can do is hope for the best with Abu Mazen and Sharon's peace talks



Everyone loves to cheer for the underdog(your tanks vs. rocks bussiness is evidence you do).

Are suicide

and of course you will listen to your CURRENT history forgetting your past. Who gives a crap about the past right?

http://www.nkusa.org/

And what does the IDF do to begin with? Where does the mossad and IDF personal in the early days come from? What about the Zionist underground terrorist groups? Irgun-gang but one to name.. of course that's 'individuals' but who supported them? Menachem Begin he became even prime minister... I think you are forgetting or trying to erase your history. Israel was not ruled or inhabitted by Israelites/Jews (it was a minority) after the romans basically took over Israel. That's almost 2000 years... Then hertzl' came up with his ideology "The Jewish State" and a movment started... sorry you are wrong and not a true Jew if you consider non-Judaic secular movements as Judaic...

Funny.. everyone that's against zionism is somehow anti-semitic.. yet zionism isnt strictly Judaic.. Like I pointed out earlier right-wing christian fundementalists supported the creation of Israel with disregard of the already living inhabittants on that ancient land..

Did I ever say I consider secular groups jewish...

I said Im a Jew AND a Zionist...

are you a jew/raised as a jew?
If you are'nt either, I wouldnt go around saying people are'nt true Jews, buddy.
I attend synnagouge weekly, have Sabbath dinner, etc. I think I qualify as a Jew.

Oh ya, did you know Netura Karta tries to blow up Palestinian instituions, such as Schools and daycares.

As far as I'm concerned, there the Jewish equivalent to Hamas.

I find most anti-Israel/anti-Zionist people use that as a front to criticize Jews, and spew more hateful rehoric or bring back the Protocols Of Zion theories back up.

This thread has crossed the boundary from debate into a head-to-head shitfight.Such behaviour is not tolerated anywhere on AF,both of you need to take a step back and re-evaluate the purpose of your posting.If you wish to continue this squabble,do it through the PM system.It's not AF material.