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Nookie_Monster
05-20-2003, 01:33 PM
i got killed by a golf!
what a sleeper

it was an AWD supercharged 4.7L V-6... yes it was an engine swap. he got about 3 car lengths on me.

KrNxRaCer00
05-20-2003, 01:45 PM
4.7L v-6? i didn't kno they made those (but don't mind me, i kno jack bout bigger displacement motors)

how'd the race go down? an how'd u figure out thas wut all he had?

flylwsi
05-20-2003, 01:51 PM
sorry, but i don't believe it.

sounds like it'd be a jeep engine, which wouldn't fit easily at all in that car...

i don't believe that at all...

Nookie_Monster
05-20-2003, 02:32 PM
beleive it or not it's true. he pulled into a gas station down the road and i followed him because i was so impressed i asked if he would show me what was under the hood. that is what he said he had. he might have been bullshitting me but i know that is what he said he had. along with 3 1/2" exhaust all the way back.

YogsVR4
05-20-2003, 02:53 PM
I don't know how he could fit that under the hood, but anything is possible.

flylwsi
05-20-2003, 02:55 PM
but you didn't see it?

i think it's bs...

no way you could fit that motor into that car...

RACER D12
05-20-2003, 02:59 PM
Could have been an R32 they are AWD V6s but im not sure if they are selling them yet.

Nookie_Monster
05-20-2003, 03:36 PM
they aren't selling them yet that is what confused me when he said it was an AWD v-6.

yes i did see it. it was deffinatly a supercharged v-6 there wasn't ANY room for expansion left in there and he said he had a custom hood made to fit the engine in there.

flylwsi
05-20-2003, 04:10 PM
4.7 L v6?

who makes one that size?

that's news to me... interesting to say the least...

Self
05-20-2003, 04:23 PM
Originally posted by flylwsi
but you didn't see it?
i think it's bs...
no way you could fit that motor into that car...

Don't know about this particular motor/story, but with enough money you can fit anything anywhere. Like everything else in the automotive world, you'e only limited by your pocketbook.

And coud it have been some sort of sroked v6 that was originally smaller? I don't know eiter.

R1-rider
05-20-2003, 04:23 PM
It was probably Vtec too!!

There is no way that anybody with sense would put a bigass 4.7L engine into a small Golf, it would imbalance the front/rear weight ratio far too greatly. Not to mention all the frame welding that it would require to hold the engine, and drivetrain. Oh, and if he said it was AWD, then you know for sure he was lying. No way a 4.7L engine in the front bay could also be a AWD car, the engine would have to have been dropped lower in the frame then a FWD drivetrain layout should allow.

Now again all things are possible, but that just sound stupid, with the money he spent on doing all that he could have had a smaller engine making same amounts of power while retaining handling charachteristics.

NSX-R-SSJ20K
05-21-2003, 07:33 AM
Sounds mental

They do some crazy things with Golfs

the Usual is a Twin VR6 engine'd golf

but 4.7 liter V6 supercharged ? sounds mental
I'm slightly skeptical about the displacement but the supercharged bit sounds alrite.

mynismo
05-21-2003, 08:14 AM
Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K

They do some crazy things with Golfs

they do some crazy things to Corollas too... watch out for some beefed up ones. my one friend put a 4agze engine into a '93 (240hp) and ran a 12.4.

flylwsi
05-21-2003, 09:35 AM
the Usual is a Twin VR6 engine'd golf

that's what i was thinking...

or a twin 16v setup...

performance vw had a few of those featured (euro mag, nsx-r, i'm sure you know it)
as well as an a1 golf with a turbo vr6 in the back, not the front...

i can't think of the tuner...

DeViL
05-21-2003, 01:59 PM
What exactly is the biggest V6 out there today?

Neutrino
05-21-2003, 03:22 PM
i'm trying to think and i cannot come up with any 4.7L gas powered V6's:confused:

i know some diesels that get even bigger but no gas engines.

someone mentoned a jeep engine from what i know the biggest 6cyl they have is the 4.0 - i guess you can stroke and bore one of those.....

R1-rider
05-21-2003, 04:10 PM
Chevy has the 4.3L V6 Vortech right?

btw, Jeep 4.0 engines are inline-6s

Neutrino
05-21-2003, 05:17 PM
Originally posted by R1-rider
Chevy has the 4.3L V6 Vortech right?

btw, Jeep 4.0 engines are inline-6s

oh yeah oops those jeep engines are I6


and aren't those vortec V8's?

still far from that presumed 4.7

DeViL
05-21-2003, 08:16 PM
Yeah I guess Chevy has the biggest one then I've never heard of anything over 4.3L's. Even Honda's NSX doesn't have a bigger V6 then that, strange. Heh go S-10 :silly2: ! Too bad that engine will be obsolete when that ugly Colorado replaces the truck. Stupid Chevy and their crazy get rich quick schemes, 5-cylinder..pfft..

Layla's Keeper
05-21-2003, 08:48 PM
Well, the five is cheaper to produce since it's based on the same architecture as the WONDROUS DOHC straight-six displacing 4200cc. I love that engine. All aluminum, DOHC, four valves per cylinder, and variable valve timing. It's possibly one of the best small truck engines on the market delivering a broad 274hp and 270lb ft of torque.

And you really have to like the mid-engine Silverados and Trailblazers they built for the Baja 2000 with 5.0L, 600hp versions of this engine. Those things were STELLAR!

-The Stig-
05-22-2003, 12:04 AM
Yeah, but they only have the Variable Valve Timing on the Exhaust side.

Its not like the real deal(i.e. Vtec), still works though. They sound like Hoover vaccuum cleaners. Kinda go Wooooooooooo down the road. hahah.

flylwsi
05-22-2003, 12:03 PM
it's not like the real deal?

vtec is only on the exh cam...

what's the difference?

Variable Valve Timing on the Exhaust

that's most of what vtec stands for...

most variable valve timing setups are only on 1 cam... like the toyota vvtl-i, the focus zetec motors, etc...

in another thread, someone mentioned the straight 4.6L 6 of the tvr tuscan...

-The Stig-
05-22-2003, 05:33 PM
Hmm... well learn sumfin new each day.

I always thought it was both cams. Interesting.

Of course I dont follow Hondas as closely as I do Chevy...

Nookie_Monster
05-22-2003, 06:19 PM
well i alreaddy said that the guy might have just been bullshitting me about the displacement. but he seemed to beleive it himself pretty strongly. although he might just not know shit about cars. yeah i can't find a 4.7L V-6 either. but as i said he might have been bullshitting me about the diplacement.

Coal
05-22-2003, 09:06 PM
Never know, could have been overbored or something.

Doesn't really matter, what it comes down to is it was fast! I love sleepers!

carrrnuttt
05-23-2003, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by flylwsi
... vtec is only on the exh cam...

most variable valve timing setups are only on 1 cam... like the toyota vvtl-i, the focus zetec motors, etc...



You're right in some sense but you're mostly wrong.

On the Honda side of things, SOHC VTEC only happens on the intake lobe of the single cam. on the DOHC VTEC has the variable-valve effect on both the intake and exhaust side. This is what allows these motors to have the tuning flexibility it has. With iVTEC, Honda follows the same path. In the RSX-S, Euro Type R, JDM ITR, the K motor has the variable-valve effect again on both the intake and exhaust cams. In the USDM Civic Si, the K motor only has the variable-valve effect on the intake side.

Toyota's VVTL-i in the Celica GT-S has the variable-valve effect on both the intake and exhaust side also. The VVTL-i employed in the base Celica, the GT, only has the effect on the intake side. Same with most of Toyota's line-up with this effect, including the Corolla S, and their inline-six motors (IS300 and GS300).

As for the other manufacturers with variable-valve technology (Ferrari, Porsche, Subaru, Nissan, Ford, Mazda, etc..., etc...), when they do not use variable technology on both the intake and exhaust, they use it on the intake side (a'la Zetec). If you had to chose between better breathing and better exhaust flow, I'm sure you'd want better breathing.

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