what is this
Ghini
05-17-2003, 02:38 PM
any body know
Venger10
05-17-2003, 03:00 PM
Looks like the new Cadillac concept car. Think they called it the "V16"
Ghini
05-18-2003, 01:19 PM
is this the fist v-16 ????????
there were a few comments about the designs witth the lincoln concept and that cadillac in the road and track magazine
there were a few comments about the designs witth the lincoln concept and that cadillac in the road and track magazine
swedish
05-18-2003, 01:31 PM
It's Cadillac's "Sixteen" there's all sorts of info here (http://www.cadillac.com/cadillacjsp/info/concept/cadillac16/overview.html)
Jimster
05-20-2003, 05:25 AM
It's a POS V16 which only has the fact it has some rather nice Displacement on Demand techonology in it- not dissimlar to the technology used by Mercedes Benz.
other wise it's a 4 speed auto and wieghs twice as much as the Bugatti Veryon.
other wise it's a 4 speed auto and wieghs twice as much as the Bugatti Veryon.
Hudson
05-20-2003, 10:14 AM
Why the comparison to the Veyron? Besides both of them having V16 engines and four wheels, they have nothing in common. The Sixteen is heavier because it's larger. The Sixteen puts out (a claimed) 1,000hp, while the Bugatti needs four turbos to boost it that far. Try putting four people in a Veyron or getting 20 mpg!
The Sixteen is the best concept Cadillac has had in many, many years.
The Sixteen is the best concept Cadillac has had in many, many years.
Jimster
05-20-2003, 09:05 PM
Originally posted by Hudson
Why the comparison to the Veyron? Besides both of them having V16 engines and four wheels, they have nothing in common. The Sixteen is heavier because it's larger. The Sixteen puts out (a claimed) 1,000hp, while the Bugatti needs four turbos to boost it that far. Try putting four people in a Veyron or getting 20 mpg!
The Sixteen is the best concept Cadillac has had in many, many years.
The 16 cylinders of the Veryon take W form not V form ;)
Yes the Sixteen is good for Cadillac- or as a matter of fact any American manufacturer- but it still is no world beater in terms of tecnology or innovation
Why the comparison to the Veyron? Besides both of them having V16 engines and four wheels, they have nothing in common. The Sixteen is heavier because it's larger. The Sixteen puts out (a claimed) 1,000hp, while the Bugatti needs four turbos to boost it that far. Try putting four people in a Veyron or getting 20 mpg!
The Sixteen is the best concept Cadillac has had in many, many years.
The 16 cylinders of the Veryon take W form not V form ;)
Yes the Sixteen is good for Cadillac- or as a matter of fact any American manufacturer- but it still is no world beater in terms of tecnology or innovation
SuPeRcAr_MaN
05-20-2003, 09:24 PM
It is by far the best Cadillac concept that had the biggest impact on the car world in years. I love it. Cadillac goes back to it's powerful and luxurious roots that date back to the 30's. And how is this not technologically advanced?
Jimster
05-21-2003, 05:18 AM
Originally posted by SuPeRcAr_MaN
It is by far the best Cadillac concept that had the biggest impact on the car world in years. I love it. Cadillac goes back to it's powerful and luxurious roots that date back to the 30's. And how is this not technologically advanced?
The technology isreasonable- but not as advanced as that of Bugatti or Mercedes Benz- Aside from the DOD the car is just two LS1's stitched together with a lengthened crankshaft, it is hooked up to a 4-speed Auto (Which I hope like hell i f they decide to make it- that it never makes it to the production car)
It is by far the best Cadillac concept that had the biggest impact on the car world in years. I love it. Cadillac goes back to it's powerful and luxurious roots that date back to the 30's. And how is this not technologically advanced?
The technology isreasonable- but not as advanced as that of Bugatti or Mercedes Benz- Aside from the DOD the car is just two LS1's stitched together with a lengthened crankshaft, it is hooked up to a 4-speed Auto (Which I hope like hell i f they decide to make it- that it never makes it to the production car)
Hudson
05-21-2003, 09:54 AM
Originally posted by Jimster
The 16 cylinders of the Veryon take W form not V form ;)
A "W" engine is a "V" engine. In the case of the "W16," it's basically two V8s rotated at 15 degrees and merged (or to 15 degree V8s merged at the crank). It's still just a V16 engine.
As far as the 4-speed transmission, with the torque and horsepower that this engine (supposedly) produces, the 4-speed should be more than adequate. I'm sure the people who look at cars on paper would rather have 5-, 6-, or 7-speeds (or more) in the transmission. But if the 4-speed can be reliable with 1,000hp behind it and can still turn out 20 mpg, I don't see the problem.
The 16 cylinders of the Veryon take W form not V form ;)
A "W" engine is a "V" engine. In the case of the "W16," it's basically two V8s rotated at 15 degrees and merged (or to 15 degree V8s merged at the crank). It's still just a V16 engine.
As far as the 4-speed transmission, with the torque and horsepower that this engine (supposedly) produces, the 4-speed should be more than adequate. I'm sure the people who look at cars on paper would rather have 5-, 6-, or 7-speeds (or more) in the transmission. But if the 4-speed can be reliable with 1,000hp behind it and can still turn out 20 mpg, I don't see the problem.
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