New Paint Job... I think im fucked..
DCastillo
11-05-2001, 05:02 AM
I just got my car painted like 2 weeks ago. It rained about 5 days ago. I washed my car today. There are these waterspots all over the car, and they wont come off... they look pretty permanent and they are scaring the shit out of me. My theory is that the waterspots from the rain stayed on there for too long and messed up the pain. Someone please tell me im wrong and that I can fix this problem :( :( :(
Derek Castillo
Derek Castillo
MachDAD
11-05-2001, 06:31 AM
I wouldn`t have thought you had shagged your rides paint. What paint did you use and was it a base colour ie: Red, Blue etc. I had same problem on an old Rover which was base red. Looked great every time I polished it but when it rained I got spots that stained. The only thing I could suggest is some decent polish. I use Mer on all my cars. Fantastic product. It will put a seal on the paint so the rain runs off but you must make sure the paint has been polished before you seal. Other than that you may have some problem within the paint. I`m no paint guru but have polished a few cars in my time. :smoker2:
GtRider
11-05-2001, 06:36 AM
you probably need to get your car wet sand and then buffed.
G-Forces
11-05-2001, 07:21 AM
Try a clay bar first. Mothers and Meguirers makes some decent products. Make sure you read ALL instrustions first. Then you'll need to apply a nice coat of wax/polish. It should be OK after that.
kenchan
11-05-2001, 12:39 PM
you might wanna wait another week or so before using any polish to let the car dry.
you can try claybar, but you will have to wax it...which might not be a good idea since your paint is still not completely cured. not sure, anyone with detailer's exp. explain.
i painted the lip spoiler the other day... rained, but no spots. just did a quik detailer wipe down.
you can try claybar, but you will have to wax it...which might not be a good idea since your paint is still not completely cured. not sure, anyone with detailer's exp. explain.
i painted the lip spoiler the other day... rained, but no spots. just did a quik detailer wipe down.
DCastillo
11-05-2001, 01:40 PM
how long does paint take to dry?? Lord my car looked so good before that bitch ass rain came along! Where can I hook up a claybar?
primera man
11-05-2001, 01:56 PM
I'd be taking it back to the painters and telling them that i'm very pissed off with it.
It should not have marked look you said.
Did they oven bake it?
Sounds like they probably never did and the paint has been to "soft"
They should give it a light buffing for no cost if they are any good.
It should not have marked look you said.
Did they oven bake it?
Sounds like they probably never did and the paint has been to "soft"
They should give it a light buffing for no cost if they are any good.
kenchan
11-05-2001, 04:30 PM
maybe they forgot to clearcoat it??! :bloated:
paint usually takes about 3-4 weeks to dry. i wouldn't wax it at least 2 months. it clouds up the paint if you wax too early. and it's a bitch to get the cloud of wax off. but again, I'm no expert.
paint usually takes about 3-4 weeks to dry. i wouldn't wax it at least 2 months. it clouds up the paint if you wax too early. and it's a bitch to get the cloud of wax off. but again, I'm no expert.
atomic-G
11-05-2001, 05:59 PM
I got a question myself, since we are on the topic of paint.
My front lip is slightly a different color than the entire car and is very shiny. I'm not going to do this now, but in the Spring .. what would be a good combo to wax and buff the car, to bring back the shine on the red paint of my car? I noticed the plastic side mirrors, the color is very faded and it seems the previous owner let the car bake in the sun, because the color is not as vibrant as it should.
How is durashine?
My front lip is slightly a different color than the entire car and is very shiny. I'm not going to do this now, but in the Spring .. what would be a good combo to wax and buff the car, to bring back the shine on the red paint of my car? I noticed the plastic side mirrors, the color is very faded and it seems the previous owner let the car bake in the sun, because the color is not as vibrant as it should.
How is durashine?
DCastillo
11-06-2001, 01:48 PM
so I should wait a couple more weeks till I wax/buff this muh-fuckah? Im really really scared!
greekman
11-06-2001, 06:39 PM
dcastillo-just like primera man said-take your car back. see what they have to say about it. maybe they fucked up and you'll get a refund/repaint/fix.
primera man
11-06-2001, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by DCastillo
so I should wait a couple more weeks till I wax/buff this muh-fuckah?
NO.....TAKE IT BACK TO THE PAINTERS !!!!!!
so I should wait a couple more weeks till I wax/buff this muh-fuckah?
NO.....TAKE IT BACK TO THE PAINTERS !!!!!!
2002G20Racer
11-06-2001, 09:22 PM
Take it back to the painters. They are the ones who messed up your car. For example, when I got fender replaced and painted the shop gave me a 10 year warrinte on their work.
FlossinPrimera
11-06-2001, 09:24 PM
Here is the deal with paint. After a car is painted you should not take it through any car wash for 8 weeks (touchless or not, doesn't matter, wash it in your driveway with Dawn dish washing soap). Do not wax your car for at least 3 months (this will give the paint time to harden, if it is waxed before it is hardend enough the paint may crack, the pain releases gases while is hardens, the wax will hold the gasses in). I know this because my mom works at a body shop and that is the offical rule from the paint manufacturer.
primera man
11-06-2001, 09:28 PM
Originally posted by FlossinPrimera
Here is the deal with paint. After a car is painted you should not take it through any car wash for 8 weeks (touchless or not, doesn't matter, wash it in your driveway with Dawn dish washing soap). Do not wax your car for at least 3 months (this will give the paint time to harden, if it is waxed before it is hardend enough the paint may crack, the pain releases gases while is hardens, the wax will hold the gasses in). I know this because my mom works at a body shop and that is the offical rule from the paint manufacturer.
I was told that if the paint was oven-baked on, you just carry on as normal with washing/waxing etc.....there is no time to wait.
Here is the deal with paint. After a car is painted you should not take it through any car wash for 8 weeks (touchless or not, doesn't matter, wash it in your driveway with Dawn dish washing soap). Do not wax your car for at least 3 months (this will give the paint time to harden, if it is waxed before it is hardend enough the paint may crack, the pain releases gases while is hardens, the wax will hold the gasses in). I know this because my mom works at a body shop and that is the offical rule from the paint manufacturer.
I was told that if the paint was oven-baked on, you just carry on as normal with washing/waxing etc.....there is no time to wait.
kenchan
11-07-2001, 02:38 AM
take it back to the painters dude. get them to fix up the paint and put some clearcoat on it.
yah, i think if you bake it, you can wax it within a day or so. make sure you take out your misc electronics out before they bake it because those will reach 85C.
yah, i think if you bake it, you can wax it within a day or so. make sure you take out your misc electronics out before they bake it because those will reach 85C.
DCastillo
11-07-2001, 02:58 AM
damn.. idont think they "baked" my car... all the electronics? all the electronic on there are stock... if aftermarket electronics is what you mean
kris
11-07-2001, 03:04 AM
Originally posted by DCastillo
damn.. idont think they "baked" my car... all the electronics? all the electronic on there are stock... if aftermarket electronics is what you mean
Correct me if I am wrong. But if they were to bake it, they would need to completly strip your car of anything but the metal.
damn.. idont think they "baked" my car... all the electronics? all the electronic on there are stock... if aftermarket electronics is what you mean
Correct me if I am wrong. But if they were to bake it, they would need to completly strip your car of anything but the metal.
primera man
11-07-2001, 03:16 AM
No they dont have to strip the car.......when i had mine done they drove it into a big shed and used powerful heat lamps that are all around the walls etc. Dont know what temp it gets do but it wont harm anything else.
They then leave the car in there for a few hours to "bake"
They then leave the car in there for a few hours to "bake"
DCastillo
11-07-2001, 01:42 PM
primera man No they dont have to strip the car.......when i had mine done they drove it into a big shed and used powerful heat lamps that are all around the walls etc. Dont know what temp it gets do but it wont harm anything else.
so what did you take out of your car primera man?
Does that include eveything in the engine bay?
so what did you take out of your car primera man?
Does that include eveything in the engine bay?
primera man
11-07-2001, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by DCastillo
so what did you take out of your car primera man?
Took Nothing out.....just drove it in Monday Morning and picked it back up about 2 weeks later.
so what did you take out of your car primera man?
Took Nothing out.....just drove it in Monday Morning and picked it back up about 2 weeks later.
JJr
11-08-2001, 09:01 PM
Did they use a clear coat? If they did they may have messed up the mixture. A painter at the shop I work at messed up a clear coat one time and seriously screwed up the parts and they had to be re-painted. Anyway if the paint was soft after you got it out of the shop you should have never taken it. Either way if you take it back to the paint shop they should fix it for free and if they don't...sue them. What ever you do, DO NOT WAX your car unless the paint has cured, it takes 6 months to cure so don't try to wax the spots out. You may want to try a polymer base polish. I'll ask our painter tommorrow about what you should do.
Swonder67
11-08-2001, 09:03 PM
Not to get off the topic, but "Primera Man", how come you got like, 76 stars?
JJr
11-08-2001, 09:08 PM
To make the paint dry they don't need to "bake" it. At longest it should take 2 days to dry completely, 2 days at the most. For a complete paint job on a car I think the it should sit in a paint booth which is heated at about 90f degrees.
primera man
11-08-2001, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by JJr
To make the paint dry they don't need to "bake" it. At longest it should take 2 days to dry completely, 2 days at the most. For a complete paint job on a car I think the it should sit in a paint booth which is heated at about 90f degrees.
The baking is only done to harden the paint up so that what is being talked about does not happen.
The stars........i lost all of them, then got one back, now got a whole heep of them !!!
To make the paint dry they don't need to "bake" it. At longest it should take 2 days to dry completely, 2 days at the most. For a complete paint job on a car I think the it should sit in a paint booth which is heated at about 90f degrees.
The baking is only done to harden the paint up so that what is being talked about does not happen.
The stars........i lost all of them, then got one back, now got a whole heep of them !!!
DCastillo
11-09-2001, 02:03 AM
well looks like im now gonna need a new paint job... someone crashed straight into my car today :( :( :( :(
fuckin road rage man....
fuckin road rage man....
primera man
11-09-2001, 02:14 AM
OH NO, The curse again :eek: :eek:
What happened man ??...you OK etc ??
What happened man ??...you OK etc ??
atomic-G
11-09-2001, 02:32 AM
Sorry to hear that Cas .. I think I'm going to stop driving all together cus of this AF curse :eek:
DCastillo
11-09-2001, 12:41 PM
whats the af curse?? god damn man, i just got my car back from the shop like 2 weeks ago.
primera man
11-10-2001, 03:18 AM
Originally posted by DCastillo
whats the af curse?? god damn man, i just got my car back from the shop like 2 weeks ago.
There has been about 10 crashes by guys that own G20's here
whats the af curse?? god damn man, i just got my car back from the shop like 2 weeks ago.
There has been about 10 crashes by guys that own G20's here
DCastillo
11-10-2001, 03:06 PM
dam,n that really fuckin sucks... luckily i ge to pay out of my pocket.. and its only a measily 2k..:( :(
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