some question on Porsche 917K
Rtuned
08-26-2010, 04:18 AM
I would like to know something on the 'Hippy' 917K, I saw the 'godfather' Hippy 917K WIP thread and got some info from there, and also try searching the 917archive.com, but no chance...:disappoin
1. I got the studio 27 grade up part for Fujimi 917K, But ...after checking on the Fujimi instruction sheet and ST27 grade up sheet, something confused me.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Rtuned/917k.jpg
Which is true? Fujimi kit instruction or ST27? I search the web (maybe not deep enough), I can't find anything on the brake disc picture.
2. Is there any tow hook on the front bonnet?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Rtuned/917Hippycar1a.jpg
The picture show there is.
3. Is the engine cover same color as the body color? As this is green, same as the body too.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Rtuned/917Hippycar1e.jpg
I can't find any picture that related to 'Hippy' early and 'Hippy' late version, only could find 'Gulf' and Kurzheck version.
Hope some one have closed up photo link or pictures that can help me on this before I start me WIP, cheers.:)
1. I got the studio 27 grade up part for Fujimi 917K, But ...after checking on the Fujimi instruction sheet and ST27 grade up sheet, something confused me.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Rtuned/917k.jpg
Which is true? Fujimi kit instruction or ST27? I search the web (maybe not deep enough), I can't find anything on the brake disc picture.
2. Is there any tow hook on the front bonnet?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Rtuned/917Hippycar1a.jpg
The picture show there is.
3. Is the engine cover same color as the body color? As this is green, same as the body too.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v73/Rtuned/917Hippycar1e.jpg
I can't find any picture that related to 'Hippy' early and 'Hippy' late version, only could find 'Gulf' and Kurzheck version.
Hope some one have closed up photo link or pictures that can help me on this before I start me WIP, cheers.:)
lotus123
08-26-2010, 06:55 AM
1. Those light grey "blocks" are actually air boxes for cooling (connected to the duct pipe from the smaller side intakes on the nose of the car). You can cut them off with a razor saw from the edge of the disk and put them back (painted light gloss grey) after you've attached the etch disk faces. Bear in mind that early 917s used plain steel disks - drilled disks came in later 1970.
This particular car is a rebuilt 917. I think you can trace it's ancestry on http://www.porsche917.com.ar/index_i.htm. The original "blue hippy" car was a langhek (longtail) - the short tail hippy car was yellow (I saw it racing at Kyalami in the 1970s driven by Kurt Ahrens).
2. Tow hook - it seems to vary (see picture).
3. Here's a couple of pictures I took of this car when it raced here a couple of years ago. I guess it answers the question!
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t57/grahamr_photo/F430/917.jpg
Good luck with it - it's a great looking car!
This particular car is a rebuilt 917. I think you can trace it's ancestry on http://www.porsche917.com.ar/index_i.htm. The original "blue hippy" car was a langhek (longtail) - the short tail hippy car was yellow (I saw it racing at Kyalami in the 1970s driven by Kurt Ahrens).
2. Tow hook - it seems to vary (see picture).
3. Here's a couple of pictures I took of this car when it raced here a couple of years ago. I guess it answers the question!
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t57/grahamr_photo/F430/917.jpg
Good luck with it - it's a great looking car!
F1Tommy
08-26-2010, 08:45 AM
1. Those light grey "blocks" are actually air boxes for cooling (connected to the duct pipe from the smaller side intakes on the nose of the car). You can cut them off with a razor saw from the edge of the disk and put them back (painted light gloss grey) after you've attached the etch disk faces. Bear in mind that early 917s used plain steel disks - drilled disks came in later 1970.
This particular car is a rebuilt 917. I think you can trace it's ancestry on http://www.porsche917.com.ar/index_i.htm. The original "blue hippy" car was a langhek (longtail) - the short tail hippy car was yellow (I saw it racing at Kyalami in the 1970s driven by Kurt Ahrens).
2. Tow hook - it seems to vary (see picture).
3. Here's a couple of pictures I took of this car when it raced here a couple of years ago. I guess it answers the question!
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t57/grahamr_photo/F430/917.jpg
Good luck with it - it's a great looking car!
This chassis ran in both yellow and Purple during 1970, both with Martini sponsorship. It started Purple and ran several races until being painted yellow. It did several races in Europe in yellow before being run down in South Africa. This was a rented 917K by the AAR team.
This particular car is a rebuilt 917. I think you can trace it's ancestry on http://www.porsche917.com.ar/index_i.htm. The original "blue hippy" car was a langhek (longtail) - the short tail hippy car was yellow (I saw it racing at Kyalami in the 1970s driven by Kurt Ahrens).
2. Tow hook - it seems to vary (see picture).
3. Here's a couple of pictures I took of this car when it raced here a couple of years ago. I guess it answers the question!
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t57/grahamr_photo/F430/917.jpg
Good luck with it - it's a great looking car!
This chassis ran in both yellow and Purple during 1970, both with Martini sponsorship. It started Purple and ran several races until being painted yellow. It did several races in Europe in yellow before being run down in South Africa. This was a rented 917K by the AAR team.
ScaleCentral
08-26-2010, 11:54 AM
The original Porsche 917K's did not have a tow hook. This is a current FIA regulation so pretty much anywhere it races in historics it must have a hook. The original engines were not painted. Everything was either bare metal or fiberglass. Paint would add weight and interfere with cooling.
As for the brakes, Tom is right. They later used drilled brakes in late 1970. They started have cracking and failure on their brakes. Any track that would have had a large amount of low speed turns would require that they use the cooling ducts.
Nic
As for the brakes, Tom is right. They later used drilled brakes in late 1970. They started have cracking and failure on their brakes. Any track that would have had a large amount of low speed turns would require that they use the cooling ducts.
Nic
Rtuned
08-26-2010, 01:28 PM
Thanks guys...:smile:Now I can start on the build soon. I think I won't be using those grade up disc on the blue hippy. Maybe on the yellow hippy.:icon16:
One last question - The blue Hippy color, I saw the thread and I remember 'Rally Raider' said the closes color would be Tamiya TS-57 Blue Violet (original Raybrig blue-purple). From picture, it seems like more cobalt blue to me. Anyone have a better idea on that color?:tongue:
Thanks again for the answers...
One last question - The blue Hippy color, I saw the thread and I remember 'Rally Raider' said the closes color would be Tamiya TS-57 Blue Violet (original Raybrig blue-purple). From picture, it seems like more cobalt blue to me. Anyone have a better idea on that color?:tongue:
Thanks again for the answers...
ScaleCentral
08-26-2010, 05:10 PM
Thanks guys...:smile:Now I can start on the build soon. I think I won't be using those grade up disc on the blue hippy. Maybe on the yellow hippy.:icon16:
One last question - The blue Hippy color, I saw the thread and I remember 'Rally Raider' said the closes color would be Tamiya TS-57 Blue Violet (original Raybrig blue-purple). From picture, it seems like more cobalt blue to me. Anyone have a better idea on that color?:tongue:
Thanks again for the answers...
That blue has been a debate for as long as that car has been around. It's called 'burple" because it is somewhere between blue and purple. I lean more towards blue but not cobalt blue. I believe the TS-57 is too purplish. If you lived in the states, you could get Model Car World as they have a good color choice for it. I'm not sure about overseas, but the thing that matters the most is that you are happy with the color yourself. Don't just use a color because someone else said that was right. If it looks right to you and you're happy, use it.
Nic
One last question - The blue Hippy color, I saw the thread and I remember 'Rally Raider' said the closes color would be Tamiya TS-57 Blue Violet (original Raybrig blue-purple). From picture, it seems like more cobalt blue to me. Anyone have a better idea on that color?:tongue:
Thanks again for the answers...
That blue has been a debate for as long as that car has been around. It's called 'burple" because it is somewhere between blue and purple. I lean more towards blue but not cobalt blue. I believe the TS-57 is too purplish. If you lived in the states, you could get Model Car World as they have a good color choice for it. I'm not sure about overseas, but the thing that matters the most is that you are happy with the color yourself. Don't just use a color because someone else said that was right. If it looks right to you and you're happy, use it.
Nic
jaykay640
08-27-2010, 03:16 AM
Drilled brake discs weren't used before 1971 in races, so on the shorttail Hippies they would be wrong. The Purple on the shorttail is darker/more purple than on the LeMans longtail which has been the centre of the "burple debate" because that car didn't survive in its original form and no paint chip or code has been saved.
Rtuned
08-27-2010, 07:21 AM
That blue has been a debate for as long as that car has been around. It's called 'burple" because it is somewhere between blue and purple. I lean more towards blue but not cobalt blue. I believe the TS-57 is too purplish. If you lived in the states, you could get Model Car World as they have a good color choice for it. I'm not sure about overseas, but the thing that matters the most is that you are happy with the color yourself. Don't just use a color because someone else said that was right. If it looks right to you and you're happy, use it.
Nic
I search on the web and found this,
http://www.art-paints.com/Paints/Airbrush/House-of-Kolor/Solid/Burple/Burple.html
But I got doubt of seeing that 'Burple' color was almost blue in color.:eek7:
Nic
I search on the web and found this,
http://www.art-paints.com/Paints/Airbrush/House-of-Kolor/Solid/Burple/Burple.html
But I got doubt of seeing that 'Burple' color was almost blue in color.:eek7:
ScaleCentral
08-27-2010, 08:24 PM
There is a possibility that it may be a Renault color. I remember hearing/reading somewhere that the longtail was based off a Renault color.
Nic
Nic
rollover
08-28-2010, 03:50 PM
Fisher calls for Renault 421 Blue from MCW Automotive Finishes. Hiroboy also shows a Burple for the 917 on his sight.
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