EVO vs STi......

Which one to buy? 2004 WRX STI or 2003 Mitsubishi EVO.

Based upon the current magazines reviews (Road & Track, Car & Driver, Automobile, etc.), they like the EVO more than the STi. I believe the STi accelerates faster in a straight line but perhaps loses out to the EVO in the handling department.

Any opinions are welcome. Thanks.

Dealers are killing the Evo with their stupid mark-ups, but there is a waiting list for the STi, so it depends on which you would rather do, pay the money for an Evo, or wait for an STi.

Personally, I think you will be better off with the Impreza, I like the Lancer, but if I had to choose it would be the Impreza.....can't explain all the reasons right now, but after driving both I think you will understand.

well finally now the evo is out and the sti is almost out and quite a few magazines have got the chance to drive then both in their final version and compare them

the consesus seem to be that the evo even though is has more power its got an edge on handling - at least ona dry track while the sti has more power which is delivered very smoothly but this only gave it a negliglible advantage in drag runs

the final conclusion of all the articles was that the sti is more practical since is more tame so its better for everyday driving but the evo has an edge as a more pure sport drive.

what are your thoughs on this....please do not bring other cars in this comparison...its straight sti vs evo.

don't say this comparison was done before because they had other cars into the mix. i just want to see a starght comparison between those two.

hey all, ill do a quick introduction before i get started. i dont want to sound partial since i work for mitsubishi (bloomington plant -eclpse, galant, endeavor). i dont own one of the cars we make and dont plan to, not that i think theyre junk or anything, theyre just not for me.

now comes along the EVO- finally. i will buy this car, but not right now. the dealers here in central Il. have marked them up $5000 (not as bad as some places) but as of today only 2 have sold in this area and the dealers are dropping the markup since the cars arent moving. when this happens ill get to use my discount and get one for $26000! i just gotta be patient.

i crawled all under and around this thing, and this car is for real. no bs, everything on it serves a purpose. ok, the on the fly headlamp aiming might be a frill.

now, i love subarus and have drooled all over the wrx since it debute. now that ive examined the EVO, i might be jumping ship.

how does it stack up to the STI?
271hp vs 300hp- well have to wait and see how well the scooby puts it power to the ground. the wrx doesnt do it very well at all, it loses 60hp between the crank and the wheels. the EVO loses 30 by the time it hits the ground (240 wheel hp).

the sub site lists its weight as identical to the EVO- industry translation- the STI is heavier and theyre trying to figure out what to do about it.

the EVO comes with standard recaro seat (which are super sweet btw) STI doesnt mention anything.

subaru has a 2 gallon larger fuel tank.

evo, enkei 17x8 wheels- sti, bbs 17x7.5

evo is taller, longer and wider. but sits lower.

sub has .8cu ft larger trunk

sub has side air bags

evo has hieght adjustable headlamps

evo has rear wiper

evo has standard fog lamps (opiton on sti)

sunroof available for evo, none for sti

evo has 4 cupholder, sti has two (who cares?)

sti has rear heat ducts, not avail on evo

cd player standard on evo, option on sti

warranty is basically the same, exept for the rust warranty is still basically the same- a play on words that mean nothing.

ill go see thi STI before i purchase but from what ive seen so far my $ is going to the EVO. it looks much better (just an opinion) and car for car i like the EVO better, so far.

one gripe for both of them.... at $30000 why cant we get a boost guage standard?

i'm undecided...

they're pretty equal overall... but i think i like the STi...

but i've seen the evo in person, and it's gorgeous...

i guess i'd go for the exclusive, and go for the STi...

If I'm not mistaken the New 2.5L STi is going to eat the Evo 8.

I'm pretty sure claimed HP is ~300 with equal torque, plus it's got a lot of interesting little things that if they're executed properly will help give it an edge.

eat is not the correct word.

in 1/4 and 0-60 times it's quicker, but what about on a road course.

the evo is quicker in the slalom... check out www.autoweek.com they did a couple articles on them... they're closer than you think

http://www.autoweek.com/search/search_display.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat_code=reviews&content_code=02698840&Search_Type=STD&Search_ID=1235617&record=1

that's the wrx sti article...

the evo article is close to the same place...


edit: right here...

http://autoweek.com/search/search_display.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat_code=reviews&content_code=08885460&Search_Type=STD&Search_ID=1235622&record=2

Originally posted by flylwsi
i'm undecided...

they're pretty equal overall... but i think i like the STi...

but i've seen the evo in person, and it's gorgeous...

i guess i'd go for the exclusive, and go for the STi...

from what i her the evo will be produced in less numbers so i say it will be the more exclusive one- if that is what you meant.

Originally posted by CAptynCrunch
If I'm not mistaken the New 2.5L STi is going to eat the Evo 8.

I'm pretty sure claimed HP is ~300 with equal torque, plus it's got a lot of interesting little things that if they're executed properly will help give it an edge.

well as far as test went they are neck in neck both in 1/4 mile and in 0-60. i believe the sti is about .1 faster on average which means nothing.

also on normal road courses the evo its better. there was no test on gravel courses or even wet ones - maybe the lack of fancy ayc will hurt the evo - guess will see soon.

so as flylwisi said eat is way off the mark

It took Motortrend 4.5 seconds to 60 MPH and 13 seconds through the 1/4 mile in the EVO. The STI did it in 4.7 and 13.3. The EVO also beat the STI in the Slalom by a few MPH. So from what I've read the EVO is the better performer.

Originally posted by 92teggsr
It took Motortrend 4.5 seconds to 60 MPH and 13 seconds through the 1/4 mile in the EVO. The STI did it in 4.7 and 13.3. The EVO also beat the STI in the Slalom by a few MPH. So from what I've read the EVO is the better performer.

yes i saw that article its almost hard to belive that they managed a 4.5 i wonder if they got a factory freak or are those corrected numbers?

I have never been a fan of the WRX, it was never that good looking, and it never really performed that well. While the STi is a better looking car than the WRX of old, I don't see why I should pay $35,000 for the STi when I can get the same 1/4 mile performance and better road holding from the less expensive and better looking EVO. I am sorry but it seems that the STi just fell flat on its face. I’ve heard all these Subie fanboys crying about how the STi will murder everything. There was so much hype and this is how it turns out. Give me the EVO any day of the week over the STi.

It seems the EVO is more practical. It has a smaller engine, performs equal in the 1/4 mile, performs better on the track, looks better, and costs less. Also, it manages to have an airbag in the Momo wheel, how cool is that?

Looks to me like the 4G63 is back on top.

Tiff Nedell did a comparision on the two cars. You can find the video on Kazaa... he went with the Impreza (although it was the STi...).

car and driver chose the evo too, but the sti looks better and a sti wagon would be the cats ass it also would be the olny wagon id buy

what the heck just happened i can see that the two treads merged but i was the thread starter now is some other guy:confused:

When will the mark up on the Evo be gone? Is there a set or estimated date, or is it just based upon initial demand?

Originally posted by GT-R4life
When will the mark up on the Evo be gone? Is there a set or estimated date, or is it just based upon initial demand?
actaully the mark up is non exitant here in utah. and from what i hear it shoud be gone in no time everywere.

the USM VIII is really just an Evo V in different clothes- but still a great car noetheless. But I'd still go for the Subaru STi- especially with the TT 2.5

a sti wagon would be the cats ass it also would be the olny wagon id buy


It's an IMPREZA [this is the 'BISHI section, STi-lovers can go jump :p] and the only wagon I'd have is the Skyline :cool:

the USM VIII is really just an Evo V in different clothes-

i'm pretty sure it's an evo 8.

the 8 is a mid year change on the 7, which is a styling change that happened worldwide.

the 7 is still a step up from the 6, so the 8 would be a few steps up from the 5.

unless you've got a different reason for the statement...

and yeah, i don't like that they merged 2 threads...
confusing

Originally posted by Japmetal
It's an IMPREZA [this is the 'BISHI section, STi-lovers can go jump :p] and the only wagon I'd have is the Skyline :cool:
a. This is not the Mitsubishi section; all opinions are valid.
b. Skyline != wagon.

Originally posted by flylwsi


i'm pretty sure it's an evo 8.

the 8 is a mid year change on the 7, which is a styling change that happened worldwide.

the 7 is still a step up from the 6, so the 8 would be a few steps up from the 5.

unless you've got a different reason for the statement...

and yeah, i don't like that they merged 2 threads...
confusing

The US 8 differs from the ROW Evo 8- because it lacks one of the major changes Mitsubishi made- the Active Yaw Control Rear diff does not make it to the US model, the Chassis electronics are dumbed down and the engine is slightly less powerful- this was all done to keep the costs down

This comparison has been done a million times over all communities representing both of these cars, and elsewhere.

I would choose the Evo 8 - better chassis - proven on tests, and is easier to modify because of a large aftermarket > same engine unit being used since the first Evo. But I hate the Evo 8 looks :o :( :mad: In fact, I hate the Evo 8 looks so much so that the car doesn't deserve the name Evo ;) :o

I still prefer STI ... the sound of boxer engine with turbo back system so lovely ... :D

Yo Hamann, did you get your E Class?

This is a very difficult choice btw lads.

The STI is a rally car for the average joe, it would kill the EVO in the dirt due to having more power and a better awd system. The EVO handles like a dream, on the track it will take the STI, besides great handling the fact that the EVO is lighter helps it get a jump off the line. They are both great cars and it all comes down to personal opinion.

Originally posted by dolla_bill0913
The STI is a rally car for the average joe, it would kill the EVO in the dirt due to having more power and a better awd system. The EVO handles like a dream, on the track it will take the STI, besides great handling the fact that the EVO is lighter helps it get a jump off the line. They are both great cars and it all comes down to personal opinion.

well one of the magasines had a former rally driver test them and he had again better times with the evo. He kept complaining that the STI's AYC was a bit impeding him actually.

Even though I love the STI, I would go with the EVO. First, the EVO looks better(opinion - it's all a matter of your preferance). Second, they are probably about the same speed - the AWD STi soaks up a lot of ponies compared to the EVO. And the EVO handles better, hands down. And you can't beat the factory spoiler, wheels, and air dam that the evo has - it just looks sweet.

Based on looks, I choose the WRX STi. I just love the looks of the new Imprezas. The hood scoop on the STi is a little big and ugly, but it is necessary to feed that intercooler that sits on top of the engine. Don't get me wrong, I like the looks of the EVO also. Both cars have big ugly wings which are surprisingly somewhat functional. I would have to go with the STi on interior too. The EVO's just looks like crap IMHO. The EVO did outperform the STi in most tests, but I choose the STi on looks and its still impressive performance.

thanks for bringing up the interior....how much harder wou've been to make it a bit nicer....just ask for a grand more and give us a better dash....that is my main complaint with the evo....a 30K car should have better interior....:mad:

DUDE! STi!!!! cummon!!! :eek:

Originally posted by RoXiE
DUDE! STi!!!! cummon!!! :eek:
if you would take the time to look at the performances of each car instead of just numbers you would not say that.

Originally posted by Neutrino
thanks for bringing up the interior....how much harder wou've been to make it a bit nicer....just ask for a grand more and give us a better dash....that is my main complaint with the evo....a 30K car should have better interior....:mad:

Exactly. Who wants the performance of a $30 grand EVO with the interior of a base Lancer...

Originally posted by SuPeRcAr_MaN


Exactly. Who wants the performance of a $30 grand EVO with the interior of a base Lancer...

i have yet to see the iterior of the STI....is it that much better?

Originally posted by Neutrino


i have yet to see the iterior of the STI....is it that much better?

The STi has an awesome interior- but little aside from the seats, gearknob and steering wheel are any different from the WRX