Definitive Car Location list

We need a list detailing the current whereabouts of all of the more interesting models such as the XPs and the GTRs. To start i have included a list of where i am led to believe the models are but i'm sure we'll soon be able to get an accurate list.

XP1 - in the ground at woking (R.I.P)
XP2 - do BMW own the former crash test car? in the BMW museum?
XP3 - a complete write-off? was it rebuilt?
XP4 - no idea
XP5 - at the factory, on display (must be worth millions)

01R - at the factory, under wraps?

please continue this list.

XP4 is in the hands of someone in Fremont, CA. It was originally sold to someone related to the late Bruce McLaren.

To my knowledge, XP2 was never completed and was crushed following the crash testing. There is a silver road car in the BMW Zentrum museum, but I have no idea which car that would be. They also have a short tail and a long tail GTR displayed there as well, each wearing the FINA/BMW Motorsport livery, but off the top of my head I don't know exactly which cars those are.

There is a thread in this forum with locations on other cars - search for "Location of McLarens in the US" or something like that.

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Originally posted by Peloton25
XP4 is in the hands of someone in Fremont, CA. It was originally sold to someone related to the late Bruce McLaren.

To my knowledge, XP2 was never completed and was crushed following the crash testing. There is a silver road car in the BMW Zentrum museum, but I have no idea which car that would be. They also have a short tail and a long tail GTR displayed there as well, each wearing the FINA/BMW Motorsport livery, but off the top of my head I don't know exactly which cars those are.

There is a thread in this forum with locations on other cars - search for "Location of McLarens in the US" or something like that.

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THERE ARE 3 AT THE ZENTRUM!!!!!!! IM GOING THERE THIS SUMMER!!! YAY!



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heres my list:

007R - For sale @ Oakfields, UK
010R - Owned by Nick Mayson in the UK
011R - Located in Stockholm
017R - Possible at the BMW Zentrum
019R - Currently for sale @ Symbolics in California
024R - For sale @ Taylor and Crawley in London, UK
027R - SAME AS ABOVE
007 - Ownedby the owner of Turner Motorsport, in their showroom in Massachussets, US
014 - Possibly the yellow car that was for sale @ Taylor and Crawley, possibly on its way to the US. Shaevit's car (dunno who he is, could be previous owner)
015 - Jay Lennos car
022 - Wyclef Jeans car
024 - Clarks car (dunno who he is), Located in California
037 - Dan Kennedys Car
042 - Carl Beals car, located in Texas, US
045 - Owned by Laurence Strohl, IN US or Canada
XPLM - At McLaren Museum (Woking?)
055 - One of Ralph Laurens cars
061 - rowan atkinsons car
064 - Larry Ellisons Car, California, US
58F1GT - In Japan
074 - Other Ralph Lauren Car
068 - 2nd Turner Motorsport car, possibly in US
067 - Elon Musk's Car
059 - Burgandy McLaren "LM" that was for sale in Germany, SOLD, current whereabouts unknown.
069 - The fox valley motorsports car, in some container somewhere
072 - Black F1 that was a blackhawk museum with LM kit, based in Texas, US
073 - Somewhere in Europe, Possibly the Netherlands


thats all i have a location for

Originally posted by TcarR
We need a list detailing the current whereabouts of all of the more interesting models such as the XPs and the GTRs. To start i have included a list of where i am led to believe the models are but i'm sure we'll soon be able to get an accurate list.

XP1 - in the ground at woking (R.I.P)
XP2 - do BMW own the former crash test car? in the BMW museum?
XP3 - a complete write-off? was it rebuilt?
XP4 - no idea
XP5 - at the factory, on display (must be worth millions)

01R - at the factory, under wraps?

please continue this list.

here is XP3, looks pretty bad.....

can you tell me the adress of the one in MA in the turner motor sport showroom with it?:D

The owner of #007 doesn't own Turner Motorsports - he's just associated with them. I'll let 'drewwtms' handle the rest of the details.

mini_magic - disregard what I said about 3 McLarens at Zentrum. Zentrum is the museum in SC near the BMW factory. I actually meant BMW's Mobile Tradition Museum which is located in Germany. I was in a rush when I typed that- sorry. The Mobile Tradition museum includes 3 floors of BMW racing history - if you're passionate about BMWs and are ever in Germany, you should make it a point to attend. Unfortunately, cameras are not allowed in the museum.

Occasionally, the PTG Racing F1 GTR '#17R' is displayed at the Zentrum Museum so you may get lucky and see that car when you go.

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#007 is NOT owned by Turner Motorsport - never was. A friend/customer/serious car guy owns the car. He does drive a BMW 325i Touring Car with us. 007 is NOT in the TMS showroom anymore. It was here for winter storage but the owner picked it up a few weeks ago.

That may have been the car/owner from the other thread about a McLaren on Route 9 in Massachusetts. That is something that I can see him doing - he is a very cool guy.

#068's whereabouts is unknown to me at this time. I will post more information if it becomes available. And it is NOT owned by Turner Motorsport.

Now before all of you go lining up along Route 9 for rides, he is in Mosport, Canada this weekend and Lime Rock, CT the following weekend. If any of you are close to Conneticut you might enjoy the Lime Rock race weekend. Lots of cars (including McLaren), friendly atmosphere from fans and teams, and excellent racing. Saturday night is a big party and Sunday (no racing) there is a car show.

BMW North America owns the 017R McLaren GTR. PTG is the caretaker. They keep several significant BMW racecars in storage and for promotional events. Any BMW-sponsored event usually has a cool racecar or two in attendance and PTG's people are there as well.


-Drew Ingram
Turner Motorsport Sales

Thanks for the clarification on that stuff Drew. Any news on the LM we spoke about before?

<-- ...sad that I can't get to Lime Rock :(

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ER

Sorry, nothing new. Those pictures that you have are pretty old so I'm not sure what the story is behind it.

Originally posted by drewwtms
#007 is NOT owned by Turner Motorsport - never was. A friend/customer/serious car guy owns the car. He does drive a BMW 325i Touring Car with us. 007 is NOT in the TMS showroom anymore. It was here for winter storage but the owner picked it up a few weeks ago.

That may have been the car/owner from the other thread about a McLaren on Route 9 in Massachusetts. That is something that I can see him doing - he is a very cool guy.

#068's whereabouts is unknown to me at this time. I will post more information if it becomes available. And it is NOT owned by Turner Motorsport.

Now before all of you go lining up along Route 9 for rides, he is in Mosport, Canada this weekend and Lime Rock, CT the following weekend. If any of you are close to Conneticut you might enjoy the Lime Rock race weekend. Lots of cars (including McLaren), friendly atmosphere from fans and teams, and excellent racing. Saturday night is a big party and Sunday (no racing) there is a car show.

BMW North America owns the 017R McLaren GTR. PTG is the caretaker. They keep several significant BMW racecars in storage and for promotional events. Any BMW-sponsored event usually has a cool racecar or two in attendance and PTG's people are there as well.


-Drew Ingram
Turner Motorsport Sales



what are the dates of the lime rock park race day?

Originally posted by mini magic




what are the dates of the lime rock park race day?


The race is on Monday, May 26. There is racing througout the weekend. Except for Sunday which is an import car day. Look for lots of cool cars including a few New Minis. And maybe a McLaren?

Originally posted by drewwtms



The race is on Monday, May 26. There is racing througout the weekend. Except for Sunday which is an import car day. Look for lots of cool cars including a few New Minis. And maybe a McLaren?


thanks unfortunatly, i am going to CT over the weekend so i can't but thanks anyway

007, 068, and an LM are owned by Frank Selldorf, a .commer in MA. Blue Sky and other companies. I understand the LM is here under S&D, how that is possible must make for an interesting story.
068 was approved a couple of months ago under S&D after it had been withdrawn first my the original owner, Alfredo Brenner, and then withdrawn by Frank.

He owns two cars, not three. You still up to your old tricks, gerd?

-Faisal.

For the record, I have seen other information to support Seldorff's ownership of the three cars as well. Drew from Turner was trying to find out what the status was on the LM for a long time for me.

What I would be most curious about is how #068 got through S&D since it wouldn't meet the EPA OBD-II standards for post 1996 cars ??? :confused:

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There is one at the TAG McLaren showroom here in London. In Silver but not sure what the chassis No. is. The showroom is opposite Hyde Park just up the road from the Royal Albert Hall.

does anybody know anything of one or more mclarens in holland or mayB belgium?

maarten

Originally posted by maartenvanthek
does anybody know anything of one or more mclarens in holland or mayB belgium?

maarten

the second picture of this thread http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=1786&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

was a car registred in belgium by Bernd Pischetsrieder (ex-boss of BMW).

I don't know if the car is still in Belgium.

i knew that, but i didn't thought about it at the time of writing. stupid of me. anybody knows whether the car has been repaired and where it is now?

rgrds

maarten

A friend of a friend owns an F1 GTR, although I cannot remember his name. If this is XP4, then that means it is in the UK with him. He has also ordered a Zonda C12s and has just had his shoes fitted. :smile: Thata the way to live. (p.s He has also invested in a £90 million pound yacht!!!)

Originally posted by jsb88
A friend of a friend owns an F1 GTR, although I cannot remember his name. If this is XP4, then that means it is in the UK with him. He has also ordered a Zonda C12s and has just had his shoes fitted. :smile: Thata the way to live. (p.s He has also invested in a £90 million pound yacht!!!)

Can you elaborate on the F1 GTR owned by the friend of a friend?? Do you happen to know the year, the chassis number, the livery/ies that it raced under? Also, what color is it currently and can you get us some pictures?

Also, XP4 (the 4th road car prototype) now lives in the USA in Northern California - this is fact - so your comment about it being in the UK is a bit confusing.

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I was just told it was a GTR in Britain. I will find out more information!! I thought it might be an xp, but I shall have to get this confirmed!

Well, if it's a GTR then it can't also be an XP.

This friend of a friend isn't Nick Mason - the Pink Floyd drummer - is it? He owns the first '96-spec GTR, #10R and lives in England.

Anyway - find out what color it is first - that will be the best clue to help me identify it.

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It is a GTR, I am not hot on Mclarens, so it might not be an Xp :smile: I do not think it is Nick Mason, and I think he has had something to do with insurance. I think it is a black one, but I will check with my friend next itme I see him.

Originally posted by jsb88
It is a GTR, I am not hot on Mclarens, so it might not be an Xp :smile: I do not think it is Nick Mason, and I think he has had something to do with insurance. I think it is a black one, but I will check with my friend next itme I see him.


its either an xp or a gtr, not the same unless chasiss number 001r has found its way out of the factory or the guy as someone said is nick mason. if you have a color it helps, btw nick masons is red

I remember when Hugh Grant was on Jay Leno he was talking about not owning a masculine sports car. He said he's friends were bugging him so he went out and bought the most expensive sports car ever built. I'm guessing since he's british he's referring to the F1. Did anyone else see the show? Can anyone verify this with a serial?

No, he was referring to his purchase of an Aston Martin Vanquish.

jsb, could it be one of the black lm's..... does anybody have any photo's of those cars, i've never ever seen photo's of a black LM.

I haven't seen a black LM either - they're like a unicorn... :D

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yup, can anybody post pics of a black lm
let's start another thread

Originally posted by maartenvanthek
jsb, could it be one of the black lm's..... does anybody have any photo's of those cars, i've never ever seen photo's of a black LM.

there are no black lm's. trust me, the poster is wrong and so are a few sites...they were all finished in historic orange

THERE ARE 3 AT THE ZENTRUM!!!!!!! IM GOING THERE THIS SUMMER!!! YAY!



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heres my list:

007R - For sale @ Oakfields, UK
010R - Owned by Nick Mayson in the UK
011R - Located in Stockholm
017R - Possible at the BMW Zentrum
019R - Currently for sale @ Symbolics in California
024R - For sale @ Taylor and Crawley in London, UK
027R - SAME AS ABOVE
007 - Ownedby the owner of Turner Motorsport, in their showroom in Massachussets, US
014 - Possibly the yellow car that was for sale @ Taylor and Crawley, possibly on its way to the US. Shaevit's car (dunno who he is, could be previous owner)
015 - Jay Lennos car
022 - Wyclef Jeans car
024 - Clarks car (dunno who he is), Located in California
037 - Dan Kennedys Car
042 - Carl Beals car, located in Texas, US
045 - Owned by Laurence Strohl, IN US or Canada
XPLM - At McLaren Museum (Woking?)
055 - One of Ralph Laurens cars
061 - rowan atkinsons car
064 - Larry Ellisons Car, California, US
58F1GT - In Japan
074 - Other Ralph Lauren Car
068 - 2nd Turner Motorsport car, possibly in US
067 - Elon Musk's Car
059 - Burgandy McLaren "LM" that was for sale in Germany, SOLD, current whereabouts unknown.
069 - The fox valley motorsports car, in some container somewhere
072 - Black F1 that was a blackhawk museum with LM kit, based in Texas, US
073 - Somewhere in Europe, Possibly the Netherlands


thats all i have a location for


you say about the XPLM being in the mclaren museum, is the museum open to the public? if so can you send me more information as i live near woking and would love to go there. thanks

The owner of Turner Motorsport, Will Turner, does not own a McLaren F1.

PTG maintains a GTR for BMW

Greg A

Well here's my contribution:

#003 is in hands of a japanese collector. Car is black, black leather interior. Dashboard is sort of mauve color.

I saw pics of the car in a japanese minichamps book. That's also the book where i got the picture of the Tag Heuer watch that customers received on buying the f1.

Then surprise surprise but there is also a brandnew F1 in belgium. Owner bought it new and did not drove it 1km. since then. A friend of mine saw the car in real. I never believed him, but now i know it is the truth

Are you sure? this car was shown in japan when mclaren were promoting the F1 but last time i heard, it was owned by Ron Dennis.

Do you have any additional info on the car in Belgium? Pics...? :D

hi, i have seen two mclarens over the last month or so within 15 miles of the factory at woking, one was red and the other (which i saw twice) was blue and they were both normal road models. any of you guys know anything eles about then?

Well here's my contribution:

#003 is in hands of a japanese collector. Car is black, black leather interior. Dashboard is sort of mauve color.

I saw pics of the car in a japanese minichamps book. That's also the book where i got the picture of the Tag Heuer watch that customers received on buying the f1.

There is a car that has been photographed in Japan that looks like #003. I wonder, did the Minichamps book specifically identify the chassis number, and if so, did it include any pictures you might be able to share?

Also a photo of that watch would be greatly appreciated. You can stick it in this thread here (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=316889) if you don't mind sharing.

Then surprise surprise but there is also a brandnew F1 in belgium. Owner bought it new and did not drove it 1km. since then. A friend of mine saw the car in real. I never believed him, but now i know it is the truth

I have heard about this car. Its apparently blue, but I don't have any other details. Someone I know has a friend who saw the car. It must be the same person reporting this info. Hopefully he can find out more about the car and share some photographs with us.

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Hello,

incredible ! A F1 in Belgium ? Just tell me where the car was seen please ?

Ciao
Phil

PS : #073 is not in Netherlands hi hi what a joke !

There is a car that has been photographed in Japan that looks like #003. I wonder, did the Minichamps book specifically identify the chassis number, and if so, did it include any pictures you might be able to share?

Also a photo of that watch would be greatly appreciated. You can stick it in this thread here (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=316889) if you don't mind sharing.



I have heard about this car. Its apparently blue, but I don't have any other details. Someone I know has a friend who saw the car. It must be the same person reporting this info. Hopefully he can find out more about the car and share some photographs with us.

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ER


There is even a picture of the chassisnumber in the book. I will scan it later today, i already posted a picture in that thread. Take a look.

You are correct on the blue one. I saw it in real. In his garage. But he did not want to tell the chassisnumber of the car. Also doors were closed. Also his real name is a big mistery.

07R - Larry Kinch. sold one of his companies to halliburton and is now sucking up black gold out of the north sea.

the car in Belgium...is it blue? HDF? if so, it's the one that was auctioned off and supposedly went to france.

The owner of Turner Motorsport, Will Turner, does not own a McLaren F1.

PTG maintains a GTR for BMW

Greg A

He knows this now. This was before Frank came on the boards.

Actually look at post #13 on this thread and they clear it up.

surely you guys know about gary?

owns an f1 without hdf.

You mean the blue car with the dark wheels and high mirrors? Chassis #040?

Yes, we're quite familiar. Do a search for "pistonheads" on this forum and you'll find at least one or two threads in regards to his posts over there, along with several photos and some videos of his car.

Not everyone's favorite F1, but I happen to like it since it is so unique.

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07R - Larry Kinch. sold one of his companies to halliburton and is now sucking up black gold out of the north sea.

the car in Belgium...is it blue? HDF? if so, it's the one that was auctioned off and supposedly went to france.


I know Larry, and have driven at Knockhill in 07R. Photo's will follow. That's the car that he had resprayed in Papaya and is currently on sale at Oakfield's for 750,000 GBP.