Hp with Turbo
450HPviper
05-12-2003, 11:48 AM
I'm going to put a turbo on my 1.9 real soon. I just wanted to know how much hp I will have?
jeffescortlx
05-12-2003, 02:27 PM
Depends on how much boost you will ran and your C/R
450HPviper
05-12-2003, 06:22 PM
I want to run 5psi until I get a couple more parts. Then maybe 10 to 12 psi.
jeffescortlx
05-12-2003, 11:26 PM
If you plan on running stock piston (9:1) , 10 is a bit too much.
I suggest to not run any boost with out a IC.
What is your parts list so far?
If you could run 10 psi it would add about 100 hp
I suggest to not run any boost with out a IC.
What is your parts list so far?
If you could run 10 psi it would add about 100 hp
450HPviper
05-13-2003, 11:08 AM
I just bidded on a turbo manifold, but don't know if it is mine yet. Today after school, I'm going to the junkyard to get a intercooler off a probe. In a couple of weeks, I will order a turbo.
If you could run 10 psi it would add about 100 hp
I checked out this turbo power calulater on the net and it said it would add 50 HP at 5psi and 80 HP at 10psi.
If you could run 10 psi it would add about 100 hp
I checked out this turbo power calulater on the net and it said it would add 50 HP at 5psi and 80 HP at 10psi.
450HPviper
05-13-2003, 12:38 PM
Which Turbo do I need to get? T25 or T3? Is a T3 to big? I fear that it will take to long to kick in because of its size and it would give me less HP then a T25.
How do you connect an oil line to the turbo? Do you connect a line to the oil pan?????
How should I run my pipes? Any pics? Do you think I can use a intercooler off a 2.2 turbo probe?????
Steve.
How do you connect an oil line to the turbo? Do you connect a line to the oil pan?????
How should I run my pipes? Any pics? Do you think I can use a intercooler off a 2.2 turbo probe?????
Steve.
jeffescortlx
05-13-2003, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by 450HPviper
Which Turbo do I need to get? T25 or T3? Is a T3 to big? I fear that it will take to long to kick in because of its size and it would give me less HP then a T25.
How do you connect an oil line to the turbo? Do you connect a line to the oil pan?????
How should I run my pipes? Any pics? Do you think I can use a intercooler off a 2.2 turbo probe?????
Steve.
The turbo depends on what mani your gonna use, if your gonna use a EXP than you have to use a IHI. If your gonna use a RS mani than a T3 will fit, (I think).
Probe IC is fine.
You will need a oil distrbution block from the oil pressure sensor, for oil feed. And a return in the oil pan or PCV tube.
Which Turbo do I need to get? T25 or T3? Is a T3 to big? I fear that it will take to long to kick in because of its size and it would give me less HP then a T25.
How do you connect an oil line to the turbo? Do you connect a line to the oil pan?????
How should I run my pipes? Any pics? Do you think I can use a intercooler off a 2.2 turbo probe?????
Steve.
The turbo depends on what mani your gonna use, if your gonna use a EXP than you have to use a IHI. If your gonna use a RS mani than a T3 will fit, (I think).
Probe IC is fine.
You will need a oil distrbution block from the oil pressure sensor, for oil feed. And a return in the oil pan or PCV tube.
RACETRACER
05-13-2003, 01:55 PM
Originally posted by 450HPviper
Which Turbo do I need to get? T25 or T3? Is a T3 to big? I fear that it will take to long to kick in because of its size and it would give me less HP then a T25.
How do you connect an oil line to the turbo? Do you connect a line to the oil pan?????
How should I run my pipes? Any pics? Do you think I can use a intercooler off a 2.2 turbo probe?????
Steve.
T-3 indicates only the housing type...and flange.
turbo "size" depends on it's intended airflow ,the maximum amount of exaust gas forced thru the inducer or turbine on a normal 4 cyl. should be equal to or more than the rated airflow of the turbocharger's inducer,if you have less than equal flow vs. rating you get what is known as "turbo lag",basicaly this means "too big" of a turbo .
the time it takes for the exaust flow to reach enough volume and pressure to spin the inducer,is know as spool time
the amount of pressure (psi) a turbo is capable of is limmited by the materials used in the construction of the turbo , rated airflow and the maximum volume of airflow your engine can "breath"
Example if someone has a turbo that can make 28 psi,it is partialy due to the velocity of the exaust gas,rather than the volume,faster velocity make the turbo spin faster wich in turn makes the compressor spin faster,hence making more psi.
long story short........If I where you I would be looking for a Garett t-3 hybrid AR.48 /AR.54(hot,cold) oil only cooling,no ball bearing
hybrid ,refers to a turbo that has a AR rating that the manufacturer never intended,usualy accomplished by building a turbo from the parts of two or more turbos of the same brand and model
later
racetracer :smoker:
Which Turbo do I need to get? T25 or T3? Is a T3 to big? I fear that it will take to long to kick in because of its size and it would give me less HP then a T25.
How do you connect an oil line to the turbo? Do you connect a line to the oil pan?????
How should I run my pipes? Any pics? Do you think I can use a intercooler off a 2.2 turbo probe?????
Steve.
T-3 indicates only the housing type...and flange.
turbo "size" depends on it's intended airflow ,the maximum amount of exaust gas forced thru the inducer or turbine on a normal 4 cyl. should be equal to or more than the rated airflow of the turbocharger's inducer,if you have less than equal flow vs. rating you get what is known as "turbo lag",basicaly this means "too big" of a turbo .
the time it takes for the exaust flow to reach enough volume and pressure to spin the inducer,is know as spool time
the amount of pressure (psi) a turbo is capable of is limmited by the materials used in the construction of the turbo , rated airflow and the maximum volume of airflow your engine can "breath"
Example if someone has a turbo that can make 28 psi,it is partialy due to the velocity of the exaust gas,rather than the volume,faster velocity make the turbo spin faster wich in turn makes the compressor spin faster,hence making more psi.
long story short........If I where you I would be looking for a Garett t-3 hybrid AR.48 /AR.54(hot,cold) oil only cooling,no ball bearing
hybrid ,refers to a turbo that has a AR rating that the manufacturer never intended,usualy accomplished by building a turbo from the parts of two or more turbos of the same brand and model
later
racetracer :smoker:
RACETRACER
05-13-2003, 08:47 PM
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jeffescortlx
05-13-2003, 09:03 PM
kewl :D Too bad I have a EXP manifold :(
This would be great if some one had a RS mani.
This would be great if some one had a RS mani.
Scott 02
05-13-2003, 11:04 PM
I'm going to have to show 450HPviper that turbo.
Scott 02
05-14-2003, 09:43 PM
Talked to 450HPviper today, we are definatly up to doing this serious mod. :)
450HPviper
05-15-2003, 07:38 AM
This needs to happen! But I first need a manifold. Anybody know where I can find one. $ don't really matter.
jeffescortlx
05-15-2003, 11:18 AM
ebay and online used parts places, older Junk Yard's
Remember: 84-85 1.6 EXP and GT
and Escort RS From UK for the larger turbos.
Remember: 84-85 1.6 EXP and GT
and Escort RS From UK for the larger turbos.
450HPviper
05-15-2003, 11:27 AM
ebay and online used parts places, older Junk Yard's
Thanks, by the way, is it possible to not use a turbo manifold????? Just Asking.
Thanks, by the way, is it possible to not use a turbo manifold????? Just Asking.
450HPviper
05-15-2003, 12:41 PM
Found one from CA online, but they want $85 for it. Plus shipping. I think I might just keep looking.
jeffescortlx
05-15-2003, 12:54 PM
Originally posted by 450HPviper
Thanks, by the way, is it possible to not use a turbo manifold????? Just Asking.
Yes, but.....
It's difficult to weld a stock manifold.
The turbo must be above the oil pan high enuf to allow the oil return to drain.
Stock Turbo manifolds have differnt carictoristic's over N/A mani's.
By the time your done grinding and cuting to try to get the turbo to clear the block and radiator, you'll wish you would of started with a premade turbo mani.
And customs can be pretty spendy, around $400
Exspect to pay any where from $30-100 bucks for a used stock one.
RS's go for more.
EXP's are hard to find.
Thanks, by the way, is it possible to not use a turbo manifold????? Just Asking.
Yes, but.....
It's difficult to weld a stock manifold.
The turbo must be above the oil pan high enuf to allow the oil return to drain.
Stock Turbo manifolds have differnt carictoristic's over N/A mani's.
By the time your done grinding and cuting to try to get the turbo to clear the block and radiator, you'll wish you would of started with a premade turbo mani.
And customs can be pretty spendy, around $400
Exspect to pay any where from $30-100 bucks for a used stock one.
RS's go for more.
EXP's are hard to find.
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