Getting Nasty with the zc

Originally posted by 91civicDXdude


Q. How many idiots does it take to belive torque is 'better' than horsepower?

A. obviously a lot.

How many times does it have to be said. HORSEPOWER IS TORQUE. HORSPOWER IS A PRODUCT OF TORQUE AND RPM.

If any 'real racer knows' that HP is just for ego, then any real racer is stupid.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

look it up.

OMG - I've only been saying this for fucking years on these boards!!! :D :D :D Nice to see someone else who actually knows theory as well as bullshi... ummmm... "practice"

BTW - I'm happy my car is stock, it has no "performance" mods on it and hasn't missed a beat in 3 years and 243,000kms.

And yeah - I'm tired of the mag-racers and "gunna" builders around here (as in "I'm gunna do this to my car")

Show us the process, show us the result, but geez - don't tell us where it's going to give yourself kudos and not expect the BS flag to be raised - unless you're Emil - 'cause he caught me out on that stoopid 4th gear/200km/h thing :D :D :D

Originally posted by Setanta


LOL Melt, you want to re-think that statement????

3rd Gen AT's are lighter which is why one of the guys in Australia is running one with a stock B16A in it and pulling 13s. They also have torsion suspension instead of double wishbones which makes them nicer to set up. 2nd gen Civics can have a ZC shoehorned in and are lighter still than the 3rd Gen AT (but lack wheelbase to make for stability on the 1/4) and of course the 1st gens are the lightest of the lot at 600kilos for the SBC/EB1 in '73/'74. I've seen full house bored/stroked mugen engines in these suckers pulling 150bhp, not to mention City Turbo Fi engines with the boost wound up and EN1 12 valves and D15Bs bolted in and worked for the track.

Anyway, just thought I'd be pedantic ;)

actually thats true ... I forget about the older gens sometimes

Understandable, the second gen was a dog, even in JDM "S" spec and the 3rd not much better except for the JDM Si.

I still love the first gens though, they really are the defining Civic and a hell of a lot of fun to drive too if properly sorted :)

Walt and Setanta are right. There are so many people on this board that simply are full of shit. I'm gonna go b16..... im going turbo..... here are my plans for my car once i get 15 grand.

well i said i was going turbo a while back..and what did i do..went turbo....said im going DOHC TURBO..and i had dohc turbo....then got rrid of that set up..now im going NA drag...and guess what....im going NA drag...woopdiee

Congratulations - pity there arent more people like you :D

Originally posted by Dark Syde Racer
well i said i was going turbo a while back..and what did i do..went turbo....said im going DOHC TURBO..and i had dohc turbo....then got rrid of that set up..now im going NA drag...and guess what....im going NA drag...woopdiee

I'm still lost on your carb setup and the custom hood you were getting made while you were posting that BS.. :rolleyes:

custom hood is done...been on my car..matter fact i have been through 3 hoods so far...right after i got done with the 1st one i was hit by a saturn and that hood was toast (saturn t-boned a legend..flipped and landed on my car...car was totaled i bought it back...and kept going)...the hood i have on now is simular to the supra hood on FATF....my intake is getting ram air (this hood is not 100% finished) the car setup was finished but we experienced problems with the ecu and such..throwing codes left and right and the car ran very poor....

Originally posted by Dark Syde Racer
right after i got done with the 1st one i was hit by a saturn and that hood was toast (saturn t-boned a legend..flipped and landed on my car...car was totaled


dude u said it wasnt finished then(hood), we were all asking for pics, then u went on ahead an took pics of ur moms car around the same time

- :confused: if you run carbs why would u need an ecu?? :confused:
what is it controlling?

idk if anyone know me, but im doing a ls swap in my civic.

but since no one has ever seen a pic of my 4th gen, i guess i dont have one. and since no one has ever seen my ls motor, i guess id ont have a ls motor either right ? do all u guys question me like u question him about what i got and if im telling the truth ? if u believe me then u must believe him, if u dont believe him then u dont believe me.
like i said in my toher post, only like half believe him, dont fully until u get proof

i dont believe you civickiller, lets see some pics! :D

i dont got any pics, i dotn own a digital camera. but im taking a few pics of my swap and my car with a regular camera and im gonna have them put it on a cd so i can post it up. but im not done with the swap yet so i havent taken all the pics needed. but i didnt take a pic of the motor being dropped in, i wasnt thinking. but i will have pics soon

civickiller, i believe you that you are getting your swap done, i have no reason not to. but the dark syde fag has tried to pull some bullshit on this forum and some people like myself and others are just fed up with all the bs. we dont belive him because he has bullshitted before. and he knows it. and if he was a man he would admit to it and all would be forgoten. but he is a stubborn little prick so fuck him. but you seem like an honest person so yes i do believe whether you have pics or not.

walt you seem to be the only prick on here..thought you were done with this post..yet you keep comming back..hmmm.......funny thing is....i threw an offer out that i would be in FL in Aug. of this yr...and would love to hand you your ass with my "poor mans ZC as you put it".....yet you didnt reply...afraid much or just like to run your mouth...i already have the plans made i got 5 diff. people filming from diff. angles..they are willing to travel anywhere in FL to see this..because they have seen my past cars (10 sec starion, 11 sec TSI talon and a few other beasts..) so they want to do a road trip.......that offer is up to you....ya know........but ya i posted the turbo pix..those wernt good enough...so im taking more pix this weekend......maybe ill take a pic of my new cams (stage 3 top fuels).......well enuf sitting around here beating a dead horse (walt) so im off 2 race..have a nice night...and think about that offer

Originally posted by Dark Syde Racer
...so im taking more pix this weekend......maybe ill take a pic of my new cams (stage 3 top fuels

fuc the cams i wanna see the pics of the 'custom hood'
5 camera angles huh<<< its stuff like that that makes u sound so full of it, if u got people jockin ur ride so much, i think u should call a magazine, i mean damn a fast ass ZC with all the custom stuff u have done.

Originally posted by Dark Syde Racer
walt you seem to be the only prick on here..thought you were done with this post..yet you keep comming back..hmmm.......funny thing is....i threw an offer out that i would be in FL in Aug. of this yr...and would love to hand you your ass with my "poor mans ZC as you put it".....yet you didnt reply...afraid much or just like to run your mouth...i already have the plans made i got 5 diff. people filming from diff. angles..they are willing to travel anywhere in FL to see this..because they have seen my past cars (10 sec starion, 11 sec TSI talon and a few other beasts..) so they want to do a road trip.......that offer is up to you....ya know........but ya i posted the turbo pix..those wernt good enough...so im taking more pix this weekend......maybe ill take a pic of my new cams (stage 3 top fuels).......well enuf sitting around here beating a dead horse (walt) so im off 2 race..have a nice night...and think about that offer

road trip your fag ass down along with your friends, ill tell you what lets do team vs team. my friends against your friends. it will be a jolly good time. but if your going to wait till august then i might have a little something extra under the hood, but dont worry i am selling my motor to my friend if all goes well. he has the same car as me. but maybe i will still have the b16 in aug. but the bottom line is bring it. so you can keep talking your shit, do what you got to do. get all of your friends together with your 5 different camera from different angles.

only time there is 5 different camera from 5 different angles is in porno flicks..... you and all your buddies doing something we dont know about?? huh? lol:finger:

whenever your ready. i will also see if cybernations will make a roadtrips, wait you know them right. lol i bet you didnt know that his brother has a shop right here in tampa. and i guess who did my setup. hmmmmm. i ask him to ask his brother if he knows of you. i will find out tomrrow so we will see who the bullshitter is.

someone is about to get owned.....

"Can... you... feel... the love tonight" :devil:

IBTL - or at least, before some Nazi admin from another forum arrives and kills this thread :devil: :devil: :devil:

this is good stuff

Originally posted by Setanta
IBTL - or at least, before some Nazi admin from another forum arrives and kills this thread :devil: :devil: :devil:

http://www.illusiverides.com/forum/html/emoticons/werd.gif they always gotta be ruinin all our fun http://www.illusiverides.com/forum/html/emoticons/madfawk.gif

Originally posted by Setanta
"Can... you... feel... the love tonight" :devil:

IBTL - or at least, before some Nazi admin from another forum arrives and kills this thread :devil: :devil: :devil:

actually...i decided to let it go on until it turns into an outright flame war. i've been locking stuff trying to contain a fire. the fire only grew bigger. it's time the fire is allowed some room in order to burn it's self out.

for all of those pulling out the BS flag....better do it now or forever hold your peace. you outright flame someone and it will be removed.

all we wanna knoe is if he is bullshittin or not, as soon as he can come through if some pics its all good :D
... I cannot stand people that bullshit, there whole world is one big lie and they think that nobody notices, all im askin for is proof then i will shut the hell up about this :smoka: , if no proof then he should shut the hell up. right?

Originally posted by LadyNRedSi


actually...i decided to let it go on until it turns into an outright flame war. i've been locking stuff trying to contain a fire. the fire only grew bigger. it's time the fire is allowed some room in order to burn it's self out.

for all of those pulling out the BS flag....better do it now or forever hold your peace. you outright flame someone and it will be removed.

Proof that Ami isn't the Nazi admin from hell that some of the whiners have claimed she is in the past :D :D :D

Whatever happened to this battle? Any pics or your car dark? Wheres the pics you promised?

OMG THIS THREAD IS STILL ONGOING, CAN'T U GIRLS JUST LET IT REST FOR ONCE

IF NOT GET DARK SYDE TO BORROW OR BUY A CAMERA, HE MUST KNOW SOMEONE WITH A DIGITAL CAMERA OR A SCANNER AT LEAST TO UPLOAD PICS THEN THIS SHIT CAN STOP AT LAST :rolleyes:

ya take it at all 5 angles,:rolleyes: nah but for real ya just take the pics so u can shut us all up

Originally posted by H4Bangin
for real ya just take the pics so u can shut us all up

pretty much

Dang, I just read all 6 pages. This shit is funny. Nice hatch Walt, I like the color. Is it the PPG Imola orange mica paint? As for Dark Syde Racer step away from the F&F dvd and please don't go watch 2F2F.

God just get over it.... If its BS or real doesnt matter if he is BSing it wont make the world stop turning. And by the way you both sound like little kids talking about how fast they can run. NUU UHH I CAN RUN FASTER THAN YOU BILLY!!!!! Ohh and how bout this. MEET HALF WAY AND GOTO THE TRACK WHOEVER WINS, WINS BUT BOTH OF YOU PLEASE SHUT THE HELL UP AND TAKE IT TO IM OR PM.


Thanks....not to sound like a wanna be mod or anything. This thread reminds me of that ever so shitty place called honda-tech.com

yeah well my dad can beat up both dark syde's dad and walts' dad so there

Originally posted by Dark Syde Racer
walt you seem to be the only prick on here..

no, he is not the only "Prick" on here, i also think you are more full of shit than all the other bullshitters on this forum combined...



"hello, my name is Audi and i am your new non-friendly neighborhood Prick"

BRO SORRY BUT IF YOU GOT A b16 with type r internals and only run 13.9 LMFAO ....you either A got screwed on your motor. B you cant drive for crap C. BOTH D. you just need to shut your mouth before a zc embarasses your ass.....because if i ran a zc with bottle and turned a 13.8 with bald streets hahahha...your shit aint nothin to brag about.....hmm lets see you spent...what 1600 give or take for the motor and tranny....another what...600 or more for the internals and aonther 800 or so on install...grand total estimate 3600 bux....for what 13.9 LOL...you coulda got a zc...for 500 with tranny and drops right in and wires right up...spent 1000 on a turbo kit and boom there are 13s right there...and you still got what 2100 bux to spend on internals management bottle if you wanted (to help with the turbo lag)...and there ya go..you got a low 13 high 12 second car..........BIGGER ISNT ALWAYS BETTER.....especially when the zc and b16 have about the same torque...and any real racer knows..HP is for ego..torque is what pulls your ass down the 1320.......(b16 the torqueless wonder)..........

walt you seem to be the only prick on here..

First of all, I am also a prick and will tell you that you are an idiot, any ZC with all that shit into it would beat a B16 w/only type R internals. Now, If Walt had the "hook-ups" you had and put all that money into his B16, he would own your sorry ass. He paid for a better platform, you wanted to be cheap and build an engine that I hope will blow soon after your done with it. I would also like to see your CarDomain.com account URL to see some more proof of your setup, you could have grabbed those pics off of any cardomain members site. I'd like to give you a :finger: for making me read your 7 pages of bullshit, learn to provide better proof of your projects and give us something to believe, especially after you pulled that retarded "carb' setup story that you never seemed to show/prove to us. How did you manage to get pics of your car up so well before with your black widow body kit, primered and ready to paint (im sure that was your car, right?)?? You had no problem showing us pics of your wigger ass posing like a West-Side fag.

But ya, I'm done, and no I don't own a 4th gen, ive been looking for the past 8 months and nothing good as come by, so I'm thinking of sticking with Nissan, and get a 1993 240SX SE Coupe and see how that goes.

Slammed89Civic, how do you like your car? Which would you prefer between it and a 4thgen Civic hatch?

u guys are fuckin tight i love a good entertaining argument



Hey Audi, is that you in your sig. glowsticking?

Originally posted by Santas90Si
God just get over it.... If its BS or real doesnt matter if he is BSing it wont make the world stop turning. And by the way you both sound like little kids talking about how fast they can run. NUU UHH I CAN RUN FASTER THAN YOU BILLY!!!!! Ohh and how bout this. MEET HALF WAY AND GOTO THE TRACK WHOEVER WINS, WINS BUT BOTH OF YOU PLEASE SHUT THE HELL UP AND TAKE IT TO IM OR PM.


Thanks....not to sound like a wanna be mod or anything. This thread reminds me of that ever so shitty place called honda-tech.com

first things first :flipa: if you have noticed neither of us have posted in like 3 days and you come off with a comment like that?? i think you need to get off your pedastool and stop thinking that your someones parents.

besides, if jesus heard you talking like that, he would bitch slap your ass.

Well this thread stayed on topic and didnt contain any flaming :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:



Behaviour like this makes me wonder about buying another 4g