Integra Ls/vtec Or 93 Rx-7
electric_
05-10-2003, 10:33 AM
Right now i have a 2000 integra with a ls/vtec with 100 miles that gets about 230 at the wheels.......someone who lives around here is selling a 93 rx-7 with 44000 miles and all the maintenance records..... I was wondering what to do? Which would be better the ls/vtec is awesome it can rev to 9500 and still get power but ive always wanted an rx-7 but i dont know much about them just wondering if anyone could give me some insight on my decision.......... OR is there a way to swap a 13b into an integra if so how much thanks...
Steel
05-11-2003, 03:42 AM
If you arent afraid of a little work, being a dick when it comes to maintentnce schedules, and the occasionaly blown engine (aobut evvery 80k) then get the Rex. 255hp stock, and it goes up from there. Dont bother with a 13b in an integra. First the engine doesnt belong in that car, second the 13b is a RWD engine, and ill rape myself with a sandpaper covered rod if you find a FWD tranny that mates with the 13b AND find mounts to mount the 13b transversley along with everyhtin assosiated with it...
Learn aobut rx-7's before you buy one tho. Awesome car's if you know what's coming to you. Shitty car's if you expect them to put out power and last while you ignore them.
Learn aobut rx-7's before you buy one tho. Awesome car's if you know what's coming to you. Shitty car's if you expect them to put out power and last while you ignore them.
KrNxRaCer00
05-11-2003, 04:29 AM
Originally posted by Steel
If you arent afraid of a little work, being a dick when it comes to maintentnce schedules, and the occasionaly blown engine (aobut evvery 80k) then get the Rex. 255hp stock, and it goes up from there. Dont bother with a 13b in an integra. First the engine doesnt belong in that car, second the 13b is a RWD engine, and ill rape myself with a sandpaper covered rod if you find a FWD tranny that mates with the 13b AND find mounts to mount the 13b transversley along with everyhtin assosiated with it...
Learn aobut rx-7's before you buy one tho. Awesome car's if you know what's coming to you. Shitty car's if you expect them to put out power and last while you ignore them.
word :o . couldn't have said it any better.
If you arent afraid of a little work, being a dick when it comes to maintentnce schedules, and the occasionaly blown engine (aobut evvery 80k) then get the Rex. 255hp stock, and it goes up from there. Dont bother with a 13b in an integra. First the engine doesnt belong in that car, second the 13b is a RWD engine, and ill rape myself with a sandpaper covered rod if you find a FWD tranny that mates with the 13b AND find mounts to mount the 13b transversley along with everyhtin assosiated with it...
Learn aobut rx-7's before you buy one tho. Awesome car's if you know what's coming to you. Shitty car's if you expect them to put out power and last while you ignore them.
word :o . couldn't have said it any better.
dayna240sx
05-12-2003, 10:26 PM
the rx-7 will easily rev to 9500 with power...
TurboFC3s
05-30-2003, 08:01 AM
an integra is a punk ride, no offense, a 3rd gen is just straight PIMP!!!
the 3rd gen motors only go out at 60-80,000miles with the original motor, once it,s rebuilt it's usually smooth driving from there.
oh yeah then ur turbos go out.
the 3rd gen motors only go out at 60-80,000miles with the original motor, once it,s rebuilt it's usually smooth driving from there.
oh yeah then ur turbos go out.
turbo2nr
05-30-2003, 11:08 AM
please dont buy that rx-7 plz..
it will be another car wasted.. let it go to some one that knows what theyt are doin.. stick to you honda. turbo it if u wish but leave the rx-7 alone..
omg
13b in a integra...:confused:
makes me soo pissed......
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it will be another car wasted.. let it go to some one that knows what theyt are doin.. stick to you honda. turbo it if u wish but leave the rx-7 alone..
omg
13b in a integra...:confused:
makes me soo pissed......
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electric_
05-31-2003, 01:38 AM
alright mr eclipse gsx i my car will eat yours for dinner AND its ALL MOTOR
TaLoN ESi DOHC
06-05-2003, 03:13 PM
Originally posted by electric_
alright mr eclipse gsx i my car will eat yours for dinner AND its ALL MOTOR
230 you say?
well my car will eat your car a new one! and its ALL MOTOR
315 to the wheels.....
DSM BABY! BTW dont fuck with the GSX , they will eat your car alive STOCK!
yah they got 210 stock , but in a 1/4 that 210 will smoke your 230 , think can launch at like 5,500 RPMs leaving you WAY back from the get go.....
alright mr eclipse gsx i my car will eat yours for dinner AND its ALL MOTOR
230 you say?
well my car will eat your car a new one! and its ALL MOTOR
315 to the wheels.....
DSM BABY! BTW dont fuck with the GSX , they will eat your car alive STOCK!
yah they got 210 stock , but in a 1/4 that 210 will smoke your 230 , think can launch at like 5,500 RPMs leaving you WAY back from the get go.....
electric_
06-06-2003, 02:54 AM
im gonna have to call bs on a 315 whp talon fricken knock off eclipse......if not u must have a pretty damn good builder and have lots of money for race gas..... cuz there is no way you have a 315 whp 4 banger runnin on 93 octane...... and my car was 230 before bolt ons at the wheels prob around 245 now..... but still id like to see that 315 whp all motor talon IF it exists BTW what do you run your 1/4 mile in?
electric_
06-06-2003, 03:00 AM
and they arent even 210 to the whwwels stock with the turbo.... thats at the fly fool get ur facts straight
turbo2nr
06-09-2003, 10:58 AM
well if i had a car i would day lets go but seriously if you are going to get arx-7 do the research b4 buying the car itz not the simplist car to maintain especially if you mod it.. rex's got serious cooling probs.. and the seal go fast if you race alot..
btw.. dont mess wid gsx they are the illest sleeper when i get the gsx and i spend 4g into that car ill be doing mid 12's if not low 12's and i will be makin 320hp@wheels..
but i hope you do what you think is right
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btw.. dont mess wid gsx they are the illest sleeper when i get the gsx and i spend 4g into that car ill be doing mid 12's if not low 12's and i will be makin 320hp@wheels..
but i hope you do what you think is right
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h3ystrok3r
07-20-2003, 10:00 PM
If i were u i would turbo ur ls/vtech. everyone i know who has one has and they are very pleased with it.
but i only say this becaue i am a honda guy.
i also have a question every time some wants to buy an rex everyone says it recruires alot of maintenance. what kind? is it even worth it to put up with? i wouls think so becasue everyone ahs them.
but i only say this becaue i am a honda guy.
i also have a question every time some wants to buy an rex everyone says it recruires alot of maintenance. what kind? is it even worth it to put up with? i wouls think so becasue everyone ahs them.
illest7
07-21-2003, 07:14 PM
Originally posted by Steel
ill rape myself with a sandpaper covered rod if you find a FWD tranny that mates with the 13b AND find mounts to mount the 13b transversley along with everyhtin assosiated with it...
Hmmm... well, I sell an adaptor to use a volkswagen transaxle with a 13b so start raping. Also, its easy to mount a rwd engine in a fwd car or vice versa. I've done it myself with an rx7
ill rape myself with a sandpaper covered rod if you find a FWD tranny that mates with the 13b AND find mounts to mount the 13b transversley along with everyhtin assosiated with it...
Hmmm... well, I sell an adaptor to use a volkswagen transaxle with a 13b so start raping. Also, its easy to mount a rwd engine in a fwd car or vice versa. I've done it myself with an rx7
Steel
07-22-2003, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by illest7
Hmmm... well, I sell an adaptor to use a volkswagen transaxle with a 13b so start raping. Also, its easy to mount a rwd engine in a fwd car or vice versa. I've done it myself with an rx7
:thefinger
Hmmm... well, I sell an adaptor to use a volkswagen transaxle with a 13b so start raping. Also, its easy to mount a rwd engine in a fwd car or vice versa. I've done it myself with an rx7
:thefinger
dayna240sx
07-23-2003, 01:27 PM
Originally posted by illest7
Hmmm... well, I sell an adaptor to use a volkswagen transaxle with a 13b so start raping. Also, its easy to mount a rwd engine in a fwd car or vice versa. I've done it myself with an rx7
Awhile back i found an adaptor to mate a rotary to a Chevy powerglide..
follow my logic....
--The adaptor will allow a rotary to mate with a powerglide
--All engines that will bolt to a power glide will also bolt to a turbo hydramatic
--All engines that will bolt to a turbo hydramatic will also bolt to transverse tranmissions in cars such as: Caviliers, sunfire, celebrity, fiero's, citations...
THEREFORE:
There is a way to mate the rotary into a front engine car...
The problem, is::::
IF mounted into a Chevy chassis, the spark plugs will be in front, and the intake will be in the back... no problem, get a lower profile DCOE weber setup right... Okay great..
you would have to custom fab your exhuast, no big deal, buy the flange from mazdatrix, and go almost straight back (atleast 20" before siamese) actually would be a straighter run than in the rx-7's...
if you used a 2nd gen engine you can reverse the water neck to it faces towards the radiator...
and you would have to plum something for the waterpump at the bottom, to get to the bottom of the radiator... the heater hose would have to snake around from the heatercore to the now front of the engine... the coolant loop can be retained just from the rear side housing to the back of the water pump.
And you would need to mount the front mount oil cooler, and have custom lines made.
Okay, i guess it wouldn't be much of a problem...
If you went turbo 13B, it would be a little tight for the turbo against the firewall, but it would prolly fit.. the downpipe would be weird... but i guess not really different than a downpipe on a turbo DSM.
At this point before i measure, i would say the 13BT-rew with complete twin turbo would not fit...
maybe i should go pick up an old 5mt Citation from a junk yard... I am sure i could find a clutch disk that would work with the splining on the input shaft and with whatever flywheel/pressure plate i would use...
Hmmm... well, I sell an adaptor to use a volkswagen transaxle with a 13b so start raping. Also, its easy to mount a rwd engine in a fwd car or vice versa. I've done it myself with an rx7
Awhile back i found an adaptor to mate a rotary to a Chevy powerglide..
follow my logic....
--The adaptor will allow a rotary to mate with a powerglide
--All engines that will bolt to a power glide will also bolt to a turbo hydramatic
--All engines that will bolt to a turbo hydramatic will also bolt to transverse tranmissions in cars such as: Caviliers, sunfire, celebrity, fiero's, citations...
THEREFORE:
There is a way to mate the rotary into a front engine car...
The problem, is::::
IF mounted into a Chevy chassis, the spark plugs will be in front, and the intake will be in the back... no problem, get a lower profile DCOE weber setup right... Okay great..
you would have to custom fab your exhuast, no big deal, buy the flange from mazdatrix, and go almost straight back (atleast 20" before siamese) actually would be a straighter run than in the rx-7's...
if you used a 2nd gen engine you can reverse the water neck to it faces towards the radiator...
and you would have to plum something for the waterpump at the bottom, to get to the bottom of the radiator... the heater hose would have to snake around from the heatercore to the now front of the engine... the coolant loop can be retained just from the rear side housing to the back of the water pump.
And you would need to mount the front mount oil cooler, and have custom lines made.
Okay, i guess it wouldn't be much of a problem...
If you went turbo 13B, it would be a little tight for the turbo against the firewall, but it would prolly fit.. the downpipe would be weird... but i guess not really different than a downpipe on a turbo DSM.
At this point before i measure, i would say the 13BT-rew with complete twin turbo would not fit...
maybe i should go pick up an old 5mt Citation from a junk yard... I am sure i could find a clutch disk that would work with the splining on the input shaft and with whatever flywheel/pressure plate i would use...
Barwick
08-02-2003, 11:44 PM
Originally posted by Steel
If you arent afraid of a little work, being a dick when it comes to maintentnce schedules, and the occasionaly blown engine (aobut evvery 80k) then get the Rex. 255hp stock, and it goes up from there. Dont bother with a 13b in an integra. First the engine doesnt belong in that car, second the 13b is a RWD engine, and ill rape myself with a sandpaper covered rod if you find a FWD tranny that mates with the 13b AND find mounts to mount the 13b transversley along with everyhtin assosiated with it...
Learn aobut rx-7's before you buy one tho. Awesome car's if you know what's coming to you. Shitty car's if you expect them to put out power and last while you ignore them.
The motors don't just "go out" at 80k. If you aren't an idiot, they last 100k+
On the other hand, if you don't change your oil, change your fluids, do hammer the car when it's cold, don't let it cool down before shutting it off, etc.. then it does blow up at 80.
If you arent afraid of a little work, being a dick when it comes to maintentnce schedules, and the occasionaly blown engine (aobut evvery 80k) then get the Rex. 255hp stock, and it goes up from there. Dont bother with a 13b in an integra. First the engine doesnt belong in that car, second the 13b is a RWD engine, and ill rape myself with a sandpaper covered rod if you find a FWD tranny that mates with the 13b AND find mounts to mount the 13b transversley along with everyhtin assosiated with it...
Learn aobut rx-7's before you buy one tho. Awesome car's if you know what's coming to you. Shitty car's if you expect them to put out power and last while you ignore them.
The motors don't just "go out" at 80k. If you aren't an idiot, they last 100k+
On the other hand, if you don't change your oil, change your fluids, do hammer the car when it's cold, don't let it cool down before shutting it off, etc.. then it does blow up at 80.
Cyprus106
08-06-2003, 04:03 PM
those talons are pretty quick. not 300 hp quick but if you get a AWD talon turbo they're slick lil cars.
94tegRS
08-08-2003, 03:06 PM
I saw a daily driven hatch, full interior, wiht a turbo LSVTEC hit 11.4 he had slicks on then though. and he weighed about 500 pounds less than a teg.
but someone should post all the preventative measures you need to do to keep a rotary running for a long time and post it and keep it at the top.
but someone should post all the preventative measures you need to do to keep a rotary running for a long time and post it and keep it at the top.
Entreri33
08-09-2003, 11:28 PM
Originally posted by turbo2nr
well if i had a car i would day lets go but seriously if you are going to get arx-7 do the research b4 buying the car itz not the simplist car to maintain especially if you mod it.. rex's got serious cooling probs.. and the seal go fast if you race alot..
btw.. dont mess wid gsx they are the illest sleeper when i get the gsx and i spend 4g into that car ill be doing mid 12's if not low 12's and i will be makin 320hp@wheels..
but i hope you do what you think is right
1
maintenance isnt any more difficult than on any other car just plan on changing the plugs and wires about every 5k and keep a close eye on the oil level. If you get a 3rd gen (93 or newer) then you need to take the vaccume nightmare into concideration but there are fixes to change that down to 2 or 3 vaccume lines. And unlike Honda and Mitsu products 320rwhp is very easy and reliable in a RX7 I have friends driving 400rwhp RX7's as daily drivers. www.rx7.com Rocky can give you names and more info.
I would go with the rex but do your home work www.rx7club.com is an excellent source of info and friends.
well if i had a car i would day lets go but seriously if you are going to get arx-7 do the research b4 buying the car itz not the simplist car to maintain especially if you mod it.. rex's got serious cooling probs.. and the seal go fast if you race alot..
btw.. dont mess wid gsx they are the illest sleeper when i get the gsx and i spend 4g into that car ill be doing mid 12's if not low 12's and i will be makin 320hp@wheels..
but i hope you do what you think is right
1
maintenance isnt any more difficult than on any other car just plan on changing the plugs and wires about every 5k and keep a close eye on the oil level. If you get a 3rd gen (93 or newer) then you need to take the vaccume nightmare into concideration but there are fixes to change that down to 2 or 3 vaccume lines. And unlike Honda and Mitsu products 320rwhp is very easy and reliable in a RX7 I have friends driving 400rwhp RX7's as daily drivers. www.rx7.com Rocky can give you names and more info.
I would go with the rex but do your home work www.rx7club.com is an excellent source of info and friends.
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