Why don't very many of you....

Detail the engines of your models.

Don't get me wrong, I have seen a bunch of excellent models and some not so good models, but still a good effort. The only thing I don't see a lot of is fully wired and plumbed engines. Can someone please share with me why not?
-Tim

I've been wanting to detail my engines, but I currently lack a pin vise which would make things easier. I'll probably only detail muscle cars though, since most come with very nice engine detail.

not me! detailing engines is my favorite part :)

I dont have the tools, but on this next model im working on has a Hemi so I might wire it. :)

I rarely do, I don't have time to build fully detailed models for the most part, I had rather have more built than less built but detailed. Many of my models don't have engines anyway. :)

hey crismag post up the full size pics of the engines in your signature.

here you go :)

AND

First off WELCOME to AF sr20ser!

I have never detailed engines because to me (just my personal opinion) the wires and such aren't very realistic. Though I often like weathered models, I usually prefer them to be neat, clean and tidy. Not saying that a great wiring job can't look nice....just that I can't/won't put forth the effort to do it.

Once again.... WELCOME :wave:

-Rick

crismag - That is INSANE! How in the hell can you do that!?!?! You have a steadier hand than I! Great work!!

Sometimes you just cannot find the correct reference for the engine bay.
What will you guys do you can't find the ref? Just use your educated guess?

even this i don't think is too bad

well for my first try

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/283615Image09.jpg

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/467694Image17.jpg


-racemyss

What I think is that many people either do not have the time to do so much details to the engine or do not have the skills to scratch build all the parts in the engine compartment.

Originally posted by Veyron
I rarely do, I don't have time to build fully detailed models for the most part, I had rather have more built than less built but detailed. Many of my models don't have engines anyway. :) Same here!:)

what Veyron said.:smoker:

My current project will have a wired and plumbed engine including a NOS fogger system

I haven't built for quite a while, but a trip to Radio Shack for a selection of different coloured cabling is on the cards as soon as I get to taht point with my current model... and as soon as I get around to it.... ;)

I intend to take the opposite approach to Veyron - I'd rather take my time with each model and have some good, clean detail on a few cars rather than having more cars than I've got space to display them. This might be engine wiring and detail in cars with engines, and suspension detail in some too.

sr20ser simple answer from me it's simply not what i am into in this hobby and not what i am looking to do when and if i do build a model with an engine. i love building models the way i do and i will leave the fully wired engines to those who do love doing that. i will just admire their work :)

Heck most of the time i don't even do any undercarriage detail painting. i focus on the body, interior, rims, tail lights, marker lights, head lights, and other things like the visable brakes, shocks, exhaust systems.

Originally posted by Veyron
I rarely do, I don't have time to build fully detailed models for the most part, I had rather have more built than less built but detailed. Many of my models don't have engines anyway. :)
Ditto.
On most of the V8's a build i'll add a few extra wires for plugs etc, but thats about it

Originally posted by sr20ser
Detail the engines of your models.

Don't get me wrong, I have seen a bunch of excellent models and some not so good models, but still a good effort. The only thing I don't see a lot of is fully wired and plumbed engines. Can someone please share with me why not?
-Tim

i am also new to this site,i always detail my engines
use flocking,and sometimes make body alterations
i dont really like building box stock,
check out the ones i have on this site

I also detail all my engines as accurately as possible.

My 356 engine, which has a dual ignition, so twice as many wires to do!
Also has an accurately modeled throttle linkage, fuel and oil lines, hell the pistons are even in the block!

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/593815enginedone.jpg

What it looked like at the start.

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/9402651engine.jpg

3/4 view

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/667573rightside.jpg

And a side view.

http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/226915sideview.jpg

You just have not been on here long enough to see some of the AMAZING detail jobs that pop up from time to time.

Originally posted by Mean_B16
You just have not been on here long enough to see some of the AMAZING detail jobs that pop up from time to time.

Don't joke.....

I don't detail my engines because my models don't have them, nearly all the models of the subject I like to build are curbside.....not that I mind.
The next one I build with an engine though will get detailed, I already have all my reference material gathered, just got to get as far as the model.

Ray

Every time I see that Carerra engine it just makes me shudder. I know personally how small those parts are! I went as far as wiring the distributors, but never went any further because it was just not worth it for me. Your model engine is so detailed it was MY reference!

Also I don't have the ability (at this time) to superdetail the engine on my 356. Plus, it's just so damn hidden in the rear of the car that it'd be a wasted effort unless I left it out on a stand or something.

Plus I think some are like me and just prefer to spend the time on their favorite parts of the cars. Working on real cars and in modeling, I prefer to spend my time on cosmetics, particularly interiors. It is, after all, where a person spends most of his/her time with their car. Unless they own a Volkswagen, then it's the engine bay. :)

Sean

It just takes too loooooooong, and it's too tiresome. :D

Tamiya FD
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/737638eng-fd.JPG

Revell/Monogram Mustang GT
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/259071eng-mstg.JPG

If it's for a contest, or at a client's request, or if the engine bay looks really bare, I'll throw in linkages and wires and tubing and all sorts of groovy things.

But honestly, for a shelf model that I just want to build because I like the car and had a stellar idea for it, I detail as I see fit. It's not that critical to me. And it's even less critical to me on other people's models.

What I dislike, though, is big tangles of wires put in to make an engine compartment look fancy but that don't go anywhere accurately. A good solid clean build with an original idea and a pleasing asthetic is more impressive than a rat's nest of wires underhood.

I'm a big fan of proper wiring done in engines. I've just got back into making models, and I'm working away on a F40, F50 and Enzo, all of which have opening rear cowells, so all my effort won't be wasted :). This afternoon I'm going to go out and look for some wires to detail the engines on all three.

On one hand I wish more of the the kits I build (rallycars) had engines in them, so the superdetailed path could be taken. Alternately it takes me long enough to detail all the other areas on a curbside kit so I'd get even less finished if an engine was included.

Been tinkering with some Rallycar engine transplants of late. Don't hold your breath for progress though!

Well I still haven't found a cheap type of cable to use as wiring. :p

I haven't done a fully wired engine yet, but if I can't find good reference pics, then it's better to leave it unwired than to have an inaccurate wired mess (IMO).

Also I'll put the same amount of time in as the model manufacturer did..for example if it's a simple 3 piece engine and not much else I won't do much...but if it's an Enthusiast Series kit with a kickass engine, adding the wiring and such won't seem like such a big deal to enhance the appeal of the engine.

I still don't have the skill in detailing engines, but I'm more toward body kits:hehehe: :hehehe:

I don't detail my engines because I have no idea where the wires run to and where they run from. Do you all have to buy the wires from a hobby store? Or are they something that I might have lying around the house?

you can make wires simply by heating up left over sprue. take a piece about an inch long and heat it in the middle. and as it heats and starts to melt you pull on the ends and it will string out... you can then use that as wire and paint it whatever color you like.

I love detailing a engine !!!!!!!

http://www.thesaint111.keepfree.de/TamiyaFerrariEnzo/Progress/Motorff.JPG

Originally posted by Thesaint111
I love detailing a engine !!!!!!!

http://www.thesaint111.keepfree.de/TamiyaFerrariEnzo/Progress/Motorff.JPG

man, that is sweet.

how did you get your exhaust so shiny? I airbrushed it with alclad II chrome after I airbrushed it with gloss black enamel

wow , nice

Originally posted by SupercarFreak


man, that is sweet.

how did you get your exhaust so shiny? I airbrushed it with alclad II chrome after I airbrushed it with gloss black enamel


i did the same !!!!!!!!!

If it ain't got an engine, you're just a painter!!
http://www.automotiveforums.com/scalemodeling/murco1965/Camaroengine.jpg
:finger:

If it ain't got an engine, you're just a painter!!
What's wrong with just being a painter?
http://files.automotiveforums.com/uploads/987587littletim.jpg
:flipa:

Originally posted by Max Power

What's wrong with just being a painter?

A painter is not a modeler... A modeler is someone capable of replicating EVERY detail of a car, not just a paint job.

Originally posted by Murco
A painter is not a modeler... A modeler is someone capable of replicating EVERY detail of a car, not just a paint job. By your definition, there are no modelers in this forum. Who is your favorite modeler, then?

Originally posted by jay@af
By your definition, there are no modelers in this forum. Who is your favorite modeler, then?

My definition would be every VISIBLE detail.

While a nice paint job helps, it's not the be all and end all of modeling like some people judging at contests think.;)

Originally posted by lumpulus


My definition would be every VISIBLE detail.

While a nice paint job helps, it's not the be all and end all of modeling like some people judging at contests think.;)

There may be many factors involved - skill, time, patience, different way of looking at cars. I can imagine that younger people are simply not interested in putting in hours of detailing work.

I maximize my enjoyment in this hobby by building as many cars that I'd like to build at the detail/finish level that satisfy myself. While nice engine detail impresses me, I never wanted to do it myself. I'd rather spend time detailing body, wheels, undercarriage, etc.

I don't think anybody should feel like they're an underachiever if they don't put engine detail. I'm sure that most people can produce a very nice model if they spend months in building it and years in refining detailing skills.

I don't have any small material to make detail on engin.. I would love to do this, but I can't find those stuff here

I just put them on my shelf when i'm done. I build them for myself, and myself only.
I'm not a contest builder. I'm a box stock builder.

Originally posted by jay@af
By your definition, there are no modelers in this forum. Who is your favorite modeler, then?
This guy is my favorite builder....
Pierre Scerri (http://www.fineartmodels.com/scerri.htm)
I don't mean to flame anyone over being a painter, if that is what makes you happy...GREAT!!
I prefer a challenge, even if it's self-imposed. I like figuring out how to use regular junk like insulin needles and "Scunci" hair-bands to trick-out an engine and make it look completely authentic (the Camaro engine pic has both of these items in it, can you spot them?)... Imagination is what makes one a great builder, not money, machinery, tools or model kit choices....

I don't mean to flame anyone over being a painter, if that is what makes you happy...GREAT!! I prefer a challenge..
That is indeed what makes me happy. I guess then that you have mastered painting (at least when it comes to car modelling), but man, I'm still struggling with it. I posted because it seemed to me that you were implying that painting skill is somehow inferior to modelling skill, which I don't think is the case. They are simply different. Of course, car models do not require the type of painting I showed. Don't get me wrong, I think engine detailing is very cool, I just don't have the skills to do that yet.