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civickiller
05-04-2003, 09:50 PM
ok im trying to install my b18a, well i got the rear mount on and i got the right bracket on but its like pulling back, and the drivers side mount is off. then i notice the the tranny is hitting on the front mount, the 4th mount thats not used. which i think is way my drivers side is off, and my passenger side mount is pullinb back

so has anyone else run into this problem, or is my swap just weird

91civichatch2571
05-04-2003, 09:59 PM
Has your car ever been in an accident?

civickiller
05-04-2003, 10:19 PM
not that i know of, i mean minor stuff but nothing major. i think its ok because the mount looked good when it was on the stock dx motor. didnt look all off or anything

FourthGenHatch
05-04-2003, 10:21 PM
When I put in my engine I attached the side mounts first, then the front and rear. If you have no front it should be that much easier.

civickiller
05-04-2003, 10:26 PM
yeah but this isnt a d series drop in swap, this is a b series swap. the engine is alot bigger, well maybe not alot but yeah using my ebay generic mounts, the front of the ls is hitting that front chassis engine mount

FourthGenHatch
05-04-2003, 10:29 PM
I've never heard anyone with a B-series using a front mount unless you have an aftermarket crossmember, don't use the front mount.

civickiller
05-04-2003, 10:34 PM
im not using the front mount, like u know what the engine mount bolts to on the chassis, the chassis mount. well my ls tranny is hitting the front chassis mount which causes the engine to be off so i cant get the rest of the mounts lined up and bolted on. like because the tranny is hitting the front chassis mount, the drivers side engine mount does match up and the passenger side mount is like being pulled back

crxlvr
05-04-2003, 10:34 PM
you have to bend the rear mount area down a bit if i remember correctly, to make it sit right.

civickiller
05-04-2003, 10:39 PM
i got the rear bracket on because the previous owner like kinda cut it and made the rear bracket adjustable, if u dont know what i mean, think of hte rear bracket now make the hole width long so u could actually slide a bolt back and forth.

well with taht adjustable rear bracket i got the rear bracket on and i got the passenger side mount on, but the mount is twisted with the eninge pulling it toward the back. the drivers side doesnt mount at all.

its because of the front chassis mount, thats why im wondering if everyone else ran into this problem or this is a unique problem

mellowboy
05-05-2003, 12:44 AM
Originally posted by FourthGenHatch
I've never heard anyone with a B-series using a front mount unless you have an aftermarket crossmember, don't use the front mount.

I'm using the 4th mount on my stock crossmember:)

mellowboy
05-05-2003, 12:46 AM
Originally posted by civickiller
i got the rear bracket on because the previous owner like kinda cut it and made the rear bracket adjustable, if u dont know what i mean, think of hte rear bracket now make the hole width long so u could actually slide a bolt back and forth.

well with taht adjustable rear bracket i got the rear bracket on and i got the passenger side mount on, but the mount is twisted with the eninge pulling it toward the back. the drivers side doesnt mount at all.

its because of the front chassis mount, thats why im wondering if everyone else ran into this problem or this is a unique problem

I think you have to get it in the right angle. It was kinda hard for me to get it in right so i kept tryin different angles till it sits right. Also did u bang ur side wall where the alternator is at? U have to bang it so the alternator will clear right in.

redmanjd
05-05-2003, 05:53 AM
cut that bitch off. you have to cut the front mount and put the other mounts in in this order, back , tranny, driver.

FourthGenHatch
05-05-2003, 09:19 AM
I think hes talking about the tranny side mount and how it sticks above where the tranny would be so taking it out is a bitch. You have to put the engine in at an angle. That should work. Or try putting the engine on the ground and using the engine hoist to lift the front of the car up really high and slip the engine in from underneath.

kris
05-05-2003, 11:10 AM
Shouldnt be that hard. Sounds like something is a little messed up.

RedRacerCivic
05-05-2003, 11:25 AM
Just maneuver your motor around in the engine bay, eventually everything will line up. Even I had trouble getting all my motor mounts to line up when i dropped my d16a6 back in my car.

Jmunk
05-05-2003, 01:27 PM
Well, first off cut the front mount off. Next, there is two sets of holes for he rear mount. Mount it in the holes that are closest to the drivers side. What mount kit are you using ?

civickiller
05-05-2003, 06:35 PM
im using ebay generic mounts, tahts all i could afford. i got the rear mount on and the passenger side mount. but the passenger mount looks all off like the engine is being pulled backtoward the firewall. then i tried to put the drivers side mount on but the engine is too far back. like the engine is angled with the tranny more forward than the front of the engine, with the front of the engine more toward the firewall. and that stupid front chassis mount is stoping the front of the engine from moving forward so i can get the driver side mount on.

im just gonan cut that front mount off.

thanks for the help everyone

2000dollarZCbs
05-06-2003, 12:18 AM
all friends that i know that have b series motors in there hatchs and REx's they didnt use the front mount, in fact most of them have after market headers on their cars and they get in the way of the mount so they just chopped it off. back and sides and tranny mounts. that all you need.

mellowboy
05-06-2003, 12:22 AM
I rather have 4 mounts than 3. Thats why i'm using HCP. It reduces all that vibration and everything. Header will fit no problem.

civickiller
05-06-2003, 03:36 AM
yeah i was wondering if my header was gonna hit the front crossmember or not
anyone have a problem with this ?

TrailerParkJake
05-06-2003, 04:59 AM
what kind of header are you runnin?

Jmunk
05-06-2003, 08:15 AM
It's fine to run 3 mounts, no way in hell that 4th mount is going to keep the motor from twisting out of the other mounts. All the B swaps that i have done into CRX's i always made my own mounts, gotta love the welder.

redmanjd
05-06-2003, 11:44 AM
are you using a 91 integra side post for the drivers mount? i know on my motor i can barelly get my fingers between the manifold and the fire wall. what brand mounts i have the az racing mounts

Fishcat37
05-06-2003, 03:24 PM
We had to bash the fuck out of my front crossmember to get my dc sports 4-1 header to fit. the 4-2-1 headers i've heard clear it fine. :cool:

2000dollarZCbs
05-06-2003, 04:32 PM
dude honestly, you are over the front mount, my buddy put a B16 in his CRX and his header got in the way of the front mount so they broke it off, well then they couldnt get the back mount in either, so they just left it like that, well he drove it like that for about 6 months, and all that happened was his exhaust shook, and the motor would rock back and forth when he reved it.

civickiller
05-06-2003, 05:33 PM
its a dc 4-2-1 header.
idk if im using the integra drivers side mount, im just using what came with the motor, and the previous owner doesnt know shit about that car and what the guy used.
yeah im cutting that front mount off, so i dont got nothign to worry about.

TrailerParkJake
05-06-2003, 07:24 PM
if the drivers side mount looks all cockeyed when its attached to the motor in comparison to where it bolts up on the chasis, then you more than likely need the engine mount bracket off the 91 teg, thats what happened with my b20.
if its a 2 piece 4-2-1 header it should clear fine i had no problems with mine, other than having to cut off about 2 inches on the header and reposition the flange so it would line up with the cat

1989CivicSi
07-16-2003, 02:02 AM
put the rear mount in first, this mount will line up the side mounts

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