Confounding title problem with NJ used car dealer
ms1024
05-26-2010, 01:31 PM
I am considering purchasing a used car from a used car dealer who is not in possession of the vehicle or title (yet). I'm concerned with being able to acquire legal ownership of the vehicle, but I don't see how that's possible.
Here's the situation:
1) Dealer A owns the vehicle and purchased it wholesale at closed-bid from an auto dealership (the car was a trade-in).
2) Dealer B (whom I'm working with and would be paying) is advertising the car for sale, but is not in possession of a title or the vehicle. Dealer B knows Dealer A personally and Dealer A has agreed to sell the car to Dealer B.
My concern is without a title in my hand, there's no other way upon paying to prove my ownership of the vehicle. Dealer B is saying when I pay him for the vehicle, he will then pay Dealer A and "reassign" the title to me (of course I would want to do this in the presence of Dealer A and B). Is this even possible? I'm in NJ and can't find any information on the MVC site about this.
I'm certain this is a scam, but I'm not sure. What other ways can transaction be legit?
Here's the situation:
1) Dealer A owns the vehicle and purchased it wholesale at closed-bid from an auto dealership (the car was a trade-in).
2) Dealer B (whom I'm working with and would be paying) is advertising the car for sale, but is not in possession of a title or the vehicle. Dealer B knows Dealer A personally and Dealer A has agreed to sell the car to Dealer B.
My concern is without a title in my hand, there's no other way upon paying to prove my ownership of the vehicle. Dealer B is saying when I pay him for the vehicle, he will then pay Dealer A and "reassign" the title to me (of course I would want to do this in the presence of Dealer A and B). Is this even possible? I'm in NJ and can't find any information on the MVC site about this.
I'm certain this is a scam, but I'm not sure. What other ways can transaction be legit?
Ray paulsen
05-26-2010, 10:49 PM
I don't see a problem here, it's a common internal transfer, unless your dealing with non registered dealers.
I can't make further comments unless you provide the names of these dealerships for me to check for authentication.
I can't make further comments unless you provide the names of these dealerships for me to check for authentication.
ms1024
05-27-2010, 06:57 AM
I don't see a problem here, it's a common internal transfer, unless your dealing with non registered dealers.
I can't make further comments unless you provide the names of these dealerships for me to check for authentication.
Dealer B is registered, but one of my concerns is I know nothing about dealer A. If I knew, I'd be able to check, but when buying a used car doesn't the bill of sale need to be from the *real* owner? Anything else seems to defy common sense.
I can't make further comments unless you provide the names of these dealerships for me to check for authentication.
Dealer B is registered, but one of my concerns is I know nothing about dealer A. If I knew, I'd be able to check, but when buying a used car doesn't the bill of sale need to be from the *real* owner? Anything else seems to defy common sense.
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