99 Explorer electric totally gone !!??
eissac57
05-22-2010, 02:54 AM
Started up fine, went to store, came out 3 minutes later, turn key on, electric totally goes away in 0.5 seconds. Nothing,. no lights, no dinging bells, no radio, zip nada NO ELECTRIC. guy gives me a jump, starts perfect, starter sounds perfect, same as normal. Went to Auto Zone, check battery says it is fine, turn key on again, same thing 0.5 seconds electric goes away. He tries to jump it with just a battery not in a vehicle that is running, won't start. Jump it off again from a running vehicle, perfect. Auto Zone swears it is starter so buy that...
Change battery from another vehicle, same thing, no electricity at all, but jumps off fine...and stays running. Put new starter, same thing again...but jumps off just fine from a running vehicle, so we know the new starter is working.? obviously have an electrical issue ...anyone got any bright ideas ??
has been running fine, starter has not sounded or felt sluggish to me at all before this, totally out of the blue today. No clicking like I have heard before with a bad starter, but not sure about these newer "total electric" ones...HELP, YELP, HELP !!!
Change battery from another vehicle, same thing, no electricity at all, but jumps off fine...and stays running. Put new starter, same thing again...but jumps off just fine from a running vehicle, so we know the new starter is working.? obviously have an electrical issue ...anyone got any bright ideas ??
has been running fine, starter has not sounded or felt sluggish to me at all before this, totally out of the blue today. No clicking like I have heard before with a bad starter, but not sure about these newer "total electric" ones...HELP, YELP, HELP !!!
rait63
05-22-2010, 06:41 AM
It's been awhile (40 years or so) since I had a similar problem ... 60 Chevy with points, a generator, drum brakes, a 283, and three on the tree. Nothing like your SUV, but the problems might be related. Similar symptoms at least. My problem turned out to be a bad connection at one of the battery terminals.
You might want to try thoroughly cleaning the battery terminals (on the battery itself and inside the clamps) with emory cloth or something else abrasive. I doubt the problem is there because you've already changed out batteries. However, the problem may be at the other end of the battery cables ... one goes to the starter (probably not that one since you just replaced the starter); the other, to ground. I'd check and clean that connection, too.
The solution is likely not that simple ... wouldn't be with my luck ... but I'd try it before I spent any more money.
My :2cents:,
Steve
You might want to try thoroughly cleaning the battery terminals (on the battery itself and inside the clamps) with emory cloth or something else abrasive. I doubt the problem is there because you've already changed out batteries. However, the problem may be at the other end of the battery cables ... one goes to the starter (probably not that one since you just replaced the starter); the other, to ground. I'd check and clean that connection, too.
The solution is likely not that simple ... wouldn't be with my luck ... but I'd try it before I spent any more money.
My :2cents:,
Steve
shorod
05-22-2010, 07:44 AM
I agree with rait63 above, and welcome to both of you to the forum!
If you loose all things electrical, there is no way the starter would be the cause unless it becomes essentially a dead short. If that were the case the battery cables would become extremely hot and something in the wiring would start to smoke. You have a bad connection somewhere the can be overcome with sufficient voltage or current which is why the jump start from a running vehicle seems to work. Like rait63 mentioned, since you've changed out the battery the issue may not be at the battery connector end. If you confirm that, then check the other end of the cables. The ground cable will be connected to the chassis or engine block. Make sure that connection is clean and tight. Check the termination of the positive cable at the starter solenoid and the Power Distribution Box. Also make sure the fuses in the Power Distribution Box have a good solid connection and the contacts are free of corrosion.
-Rod
If you loose all things electrical, there is no way the starter would be the cause unless it becomes essentially a dead short. If that were the case the battery cables would become extremely hot and something in the wiring would start to smoke. You have a bad connection somewhere the can be overcome with sufficient voltage or current which is why the jump start from a running vehicle seems to work. Like rait63 mentioned, since you've changed out the battery the issue may not be at the battery connector end. If you confirm that, then check the other end of the cables. The ground cable will be connected to the chassis or engine block. Make sure that connection is clean and tight. Check the termination of the positive cable at the starter solenoid and the Power Distribution Box. Also make sure the fuses in the Power Distribution Box have a good solid connection and the contacts are free of corrosion.
-Rod
eissac57
05-22-2010, 10:35 AM
ok, will check all connections and get back with you guys. I'm so pissed at the Auto Zone guy, gonna call him and give him a piece of my mind. I KNEW it wasn't that starter, I shouldn't have put it on there.
shorod
05-22-2010, 02:42 PM
Keep in mind, you sometimes get what you pay for when it comes to free advice.
-Rod
-Rod
2010meric
05-28-2010, 01:41 PM
i need a pic of 99 explorer
2010meric
05-28-2010, 01:42 PM
can u help me
shorod
05-28-2010, 03:16 PM
Possibly. A picture of what, the entire vehicle, engine bay, interior? Have you tried Google Images?
-Rod
-Rod
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