which one is better? energy suspension or powerperformancemotorsports.com

hello
I am looking to replace all my front end from control arm, to idler arm, center link, bushings etc. Which one would you prefer quality and performance wise?
I have two:
ENERGY SUSPENSION or powerperformancemotorsports.com or MOOG
They both have a complete kit for front end replacement. price wise they are about the same. so that is why I am not sure which is better. anyone used any of these please comment and recommend.

Thanks
Shyne

Myself I would take a third choice and buy all Moog parts.

Myself I would take a third choice and buy all Moog parts.

thanks for the input actually i was thinking of that brand too, heard some good stuff about it. Anyone else?

I took tips from everywhere i looked and most of them sent me right back to Moog. got coil springs, sway bar end links and coil spring insulators on the way as we speak.

Good choice. You really can't go wrong with Moog.

I took tips from everywhere i looked and most of them sent me right back to Moog. got coil springs, sway bar end links and coil spring insulators on the way as we speak.

how do I know what size sway bar i have to get the right bushings? do i just measure it from anywhere? or is there a specific area?

how do I know what size sway bar i have to get the right bushings? do i just measure it from anywhere? or is there a specific area?

Just use a wrench and slide it over the bar around the center away from bends. When you find one that fits, you have found your bar diameter.
Or you could use a tape measure and just eye ball it or use a micrometer for the most accuracy.

Just use a wrench and slide it over the bar around the center away from bends. When you find one that fits, you have found your bar diameter.
Or you could use a tape measure and just eye ball it or use a micrometer for the most accuracy.
ok so i did one measurement of it and i came up with 8cm? does that sound accurate enough to you guys? anyone with CAPRICE having the same diameter? how do I know what kind of end links I have or that wouldnt matter?

ok so i did one measurement of it and i came up with 8cm

Convert that to inches and you will have your answer..

Convert that to inches and you will have your answer..

I did this measurement just by the control arm where I believe the bushings sit, is that ok? In inches it would be 3.1496063 inches

Is that reasonable?
Now if I were to order a set of bushings from the website can you tell me just quickly which one would be the correct one from the link below?
http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php?carcode=1037270&parttype=7624

let it load a few seconds please.
Thanks for the help.

I did this measurement just by the control arm where I believe the bushings sit, is that ok? In inches it would be 3.1496063 inches
Thanks for the help.

Check your math, it is probably around 7/8" - 1" for a factory sway bar


1" = 25.4mm = 2.54cm

Check your math, it is probably around 7/8" - 1" for a factory sway bar


1" = 25.4mm = 2.54cm
i will check again and get back.
thanks

They are all fine. If someone tells you one is great over the others they rely too heavily on marketing for their "information".

There are only like 2 companies making chassis parts like this right now. 2 manufacturers and probably 50 brands. You honestly think the manufacturers are making 50 different versions of each part??? Maybe 3 versions, not 50.

I would also look at RUBBER for front control arm bushings, unless you like squeeks.

They are all fine. If someone tells you one is great over the others they rely too heavily on marketing for their "information".

There are only like 2 companies making chassis parts like this right now. 2 manufacturers and probably 50 brands. You honestly think the manufacturers are making 50 different versions of each part??? Maybe 3 versions, not 50.

I would also look at RUBBER for front control arm bushings, unless you like squeeks.

Thanks for the info.
How about rubber vs polyurethane? I want to get the good stuff don;t want to go back to it in the future. I want better performance/handling.

poly squeeks that is why I said do rubber.

I never used it but enough friends put it in one car and hated it that I never had to make that mistake for myself.

Look at it this way, the original rubber is 15yo, you replace it with new rubber and it will outlast the car.

Ok Can you guys help me with this please.
I am going to buy the following parts but I don't know which ones I will need in quantity of 2 and which ones I will need just 1. If any one of you would fill it out and post a reply back it would be really nice. I want to cover both left and right side.

- Tie Rod End Adjusting Sleeve ________
- Center Link ________
- UPPER Ball Joint ________
- LOWER Ball Joint ________
- FRONT LOWER Control Arm Bushing ________
- FRONT UPPER Control Arm Bushing ________
- REAR LOWER Control Arm Bushing ________
- REAR UPPER Control Arm Bushing ________
- Idler Arm ________
- Stabilizer Bar Bushing ________
- Ball Joint Dust Boots ________
- Outer Tie Rod Dust Boots _______
- Front Sway Bar End links _______


Thanks alot guys.

Ok Can you guys help me with this please.
I am going to buy the following parts but I don't know which ones I will need in quantity of 2 and which ones I will need just 1. If any one of you would fill it out and post a reply back it would be really nice. I want to cover both left and right side.

- Tie Rod End Adjusting Sleeve ____2____
- Center Link ____1____
- UPPER Ball Joint ____2____
- LOWER Ball Joint ____2____
- FRONT LOWER Control Arm Bushing ____4____
- FRONT UPPER Control Arm Bushing _____4___
- REAR LOWER Control Arm Bushing _____4___
- REAR UPPER Control Arm Bushing _____4___
- Idler Arm ____1____
- Stabilizer Bar Bushing ____2____
- Ball Joint Dust Boots ____4____
- Outer Tie Rod Dust Boots ___2____
- Front Sway Bar End links ____2___


Thanks alot guys.


Dust boots should come with the ball joints.

Check your math, it is probably around 7/8" - 1" for a factory sway bar


1" = 25.4mm = 2.54cm
Hey

I took a 7/8 wrench but it was a little small, so what is the next size from 7/8 wrench? I believe that one would fit. I took the adjustable wrench and once I got it to fit around fine, I measured it and it came to an almost 3cm, not quite 3cm but just short of 3cm. So does that mean I should get a 1" bushing for the stabilizer bar? let me know thanks


ALSO WHAT SHOULD I GET NOW AS FAR AS BUSHINGS GO BRAND WISE???? MOOG OR ENERGY SUSPENSION? I AM CONFUSED BECAUSE THE MECHANIC I WENT TO TOLD ME TO GET POLYURETHANE ONES? AND THEN I READ IT ON FORUMS WHERE THEY SAY IT SQEEKS, MY CAR WONT BE FOR RACING OR ANYTHING IT WILL BE ONLY FOR DAILY DRIVING PLEASURE USE. PLEASE HELPPPP I HAVE SETUP A CART WITH ALL MOOG BUSHINGS SHOULD I GO WITH IT? OR ENERGY SUSPENSION.
THANKS.

Hey

I took a 7/8 wrench but it was a little small, so what is the next size from 7/8 wrench? I believe that one would fit. I took the adjustable wrench and once I got it to fit around fine, I measured it and it came to an almost 3cm, not quite 3cm but just short of 3cm. So does that mean I should get a 1" bushing for the stabilizer bar? let me know thanks


ALSO WHAT SHOULD I GET NOW AS FAR AS BUSHINGS GO BRAND WISE???? MOOG OR ENERGY SUSPENSION? I AM CONFUSED BECAUSE THE MECHANIC I WENT TO TOLD ME TO GET POLYURETHANE ONES? AND THEN I READ IT ON FORUMS WHERE THEY SAY IT SQEEKS, MY CAR WONT BE FOR RACING OR ANYTHING IT WILL BE ONLY FOR DAILY DRIVING PLEASURE USE. PLEASE HELPPPP I HAVE SETUP A CART WITH ALL MOOG BUSHINGS SHOULD I GO WITH IT? OR ENERGY SUSPENSION.
THANKS.


3cm = 1.18" so it might be a 1 1/8" diameter bar

3cm = 1.18" so it might be a 1 1/8" diameter bar
But I mentioned it not quite a 3cm, its a little short of it. Is 1 1/18 the next size in a wrench after 7/8?

. Is 1 1/18 the next size in a wrench after 7/8?

15/16 is the next wrench size, your bar is probably 1" in diameter.

15/16 is the next wrench size, your bar is probably 1" in diameter.
The guy who did my coil springs looked and said its factory heavy duty, so I am guessing it is 1" bushing. What do you think?