Stereo Help
1PhatCX
05-02-2003, 11:21 PM
Alright Guys, my amp arrived tonight and i started wiring it up but it got late so I stopped, also i'm stumped on where to hook the negative cable too. i tried a tail light bolt but it didnt work, i dunno if its cuz i havent wired up my remote wire yet or not, but i wanna know where u all wired ur negative (ground) from the amp to on the body, if u have a hatch it would be ALOT of help, thanx guys
also, will it run without the remote wire? cuz not even my front speakers work when i tried installing this:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
also, will it run without the remote wire? cuz not even my front speakers work when i tried installing this:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:
GTA
05-02-2003, 11:49 PM
i had it on my tail light nut for awhile, now i have it to where the rear seat bolts down.
It wont turn on until that remote wire is connected and it is told to turn on.
It wont turn on until that remote wire is connected and it is told to turn on.
Tony
05-02-2003, 11:52 PM
i just drilled a hole in the spare tire well and put a bolt through it and wired my ground there. Wasn't in any particular spot, just made sure it was touching metal.
And the amp won't turn on until the remote wire is hooked up. If you wanted to just test it out, you could take a small piece of wire bridge it over from your power wire, just don't leave it like that because the amp will stay on 24/7.
And the amp won't turn on until the remote wire is hooked up. If you wanted to just test it out, you could take a small piece of wire bridge it over from your power wire, just don't leave it like that because the amp will stay on 24/7.
fiercecivic
05-03-2003, 06:29 AM
i used the bolt under the panel on the pssenger side for the rear shock.
91EF3ZC
05-03-2003, 08:10 AM
I used a seat belt bolt, under the back seat. make sure you scrape the paint away from where you ground to.
1PhatCX
05-03-2003, 08:20 AM
thx for the replies guys
does anyone have a pic of their remote wire? cuz I dunno if i need 2 buy one, or if I can just buy any wire and do that
does anyone have a pic of their remote wire? cuz I dunno if i need 2 buy one, or if I can just buy any wire and do that
Civic Rush
05-03-2003, 09:31 AM
OK frist off I would never use a factory hole for a ground......scrape off the paint of another spot and drill a new hole...but make sure that there is nothing underneath where you are drilling..
and the remote wire is an absolute nessary wire for the amp to function...it just looks like a regular wire....you should have a wire commin of the back of you deck that connects to it...:D
and the remote wire is an absolute nessary wire for the amp to function...it just looks like a regular wire....you should have a wire commin of the back of you deck that connects to it...:D
Kunundrum
05-03-2003, 09:47 AM
if you use a current bolt make sure you scratche the paint off to make a nice ground. most people forget about this and can cause problems.
fiercecivic
05-03-2003, 06:27 PM
hey man on our decks the remote wire is white and blue and has a clip on the end of it. Just stake her straight to the remote port:)
1PhatCX
05-03-2003, 08:19 PM
yea i figured out the remote wire now, but the amp doesnt wanna work! UGH :( big piss off, so hes got 2 other lightning audios exactly alike that he's gonna bring me to try tommorow after work, also, i got even more speakers... hehe, bought 2 10's at a garage sale this morning before work, 20 bux :D
this is what my hatch looks like right now, (dont mind the wires, its a mess) :eek:
this is what my hatch looks like right now, (dont mind the wires, its a mess) :eek:
crxlvr
05-03-2003, 10:06 PM
if you keep 2 boxes in your trunk like that it will sound like shit.
as for the remote wire, its usually like a 22-24 guage wire, blue, running from your deck to the amp.
for a ground spot, make sure the spot you choose is no more than a foot away from the amp, you can start to get alternator whine from distances above this. my ground i drilled a new hole and tapped it to hold a bolt and my 4 guage to. its about 5inches from my amp.
here is a shot of my install onto that lock cubby behind the front seats.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid60/p8824c9bf6e72e912bb7026d1fc70903a/fc47752a.jpg
as for the remote wire, its usually like a 22-24 guage wire, blue, running from your deck to the amp.
for a ground spot, make sure the spot you choose is no more than a foot away from the amp, you can start to get alternator whine from distances above this. my ground i drilled a new hole and tapped it to hold a bolt and my 4 guage to. its about 5inches from my amp.
here is a shot of my install onto that lock cubby behind the front seats.
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid60/p8824c9bf6e72e912bb7026d1fc70903a/fc47752a.jpg
1PhatCX
05-03-2003, 10:18 PM
yea i know, the boxes arent stayin like that for safety reasons and to see behind the car, ("really officer i cant see out my back window and didnt know u were there") lol
but yea, the amps messed, the remote wire didnt work, i tried a wire from the power 2 the remote location and no dice, didnt work,
so my buddy has 2 other lightning audios that r the same as this one that he's gonna bring by tommorow night for me to try out, hope it all works :)
but yea, the amps messed, the remote wire didnt work, i tried a wire from the power 2 the remote location and no dice, didnt work,
so my buddy has 2 other lightning audios that r the same as this one that he's gonna bring by tommorow night for me to try out, hope it all works :)
crxlvr
05-03-2003, 10:28 PM
maybe ur amp is blown dude, check the fuse on it.
1PhatCX
05-03-2003, 10:31 PM
yea we checked the fuse and it looked fine so we dunno
it has us stumped
it has us stumped
civicHBsi91
05-04-2003, 12:03 AM
......buy a good quality amp ;)
turbcivic
05-04-2003, 11:38 AM
To those that ground the wire to the light nut or shock nut:biggrin2:
Those are not solid grounds. Take some sand paper and remove paint and primer from the floor of the hatch/trunk area and put a nice sized screw through with a flat washer to hold down the ground. Current will travel a hella of a lot better this way for more power. Yes i do have tests that show this theory, .5 db gain from shcok tower to the floor.
Those are not solid grounds. Take some sand paper and remove paint and primer from the floor of the hatch/trunk area and put a nice sized screw through with a flat washer to hold down the ground. Current will travel a hella of a lot better this way for more power. Yes i do have tests that show this theory, .5 db gain from shcok tower to the floor.
1PhatCX
05-04-2003, 08:21 PM
Originally posted by civicHBsi91
......buy a good quality amp ;)
from what i've heard, Lightning audio are excellent amps, these ones are just my buddys loaner amps for ppl and i bought one off him but he just grabbed one and didnt know which one it was, he still hasnt shown up yet tonight, but this setup with the 10s and the 12's..... HOLY SHIT thats alot of bass without an amp!!! i was ratteling things inside the house at 1/2 volume, :eek: i took the 10s off my 12's and folded my seats down so now the 10's face me and the 12's face the hatch, pretty nice sounding but i want that damn amp!!!! lol
also, how do u hook up 4 subs to one amp? is it possible? cuz i would like 2 do that when i know of some competitions in town
......buy a good quality amp ;)
from what i've heard, Lightning audio are excellent amps, these ones are just my buddys loaner amps for ppl and i bought one off him but he just grabbed one and didnt know which one it was, he still hasnt shown up yet tonight, but this setup with the 10s and the 12's..... HOLY SHIT thats alot of bass without an amp!!! i was ratteling things inside the house at 1/2 volume, :eek: i took the 10s off my 12's and folded my seats down so now the 10's face me and the 12's face the hatch, pretty nice sounding but i want that damn amp!!!! lol
also, how do u hook up 4 subs to one amp? is it possible? cuz i would like 2 do that when i know of some competitions in town
fiercecivic
05-04-2003, 08:29 PM
just put all the wires in the negitive port and all ur positives in the positive port:D
1PhatCX
05-04-2003, 08:39 PM
lol, well i got a left and right side :P
civicHBsi91
05-04-2003, 09:12 PM
from what i've heard, Lightning audio are excellent amps i dunno just something fishy to me about their stuff......i mean 20 bucks for a 10" brand new sub from best buy with audio i say you get what you pay for
1PhatCX
05-04-2003, 09:17 PM
Originally posted by civicHBsi91
i dunno just something fishy to me about their stuff......i mean 20 bucks for a 10" brand new sub from best buy with audio i say you get what you pay for
not brand new, LIKE brand new, from a garage sale, the amp i bought off my buddy who gets new stock like every weekend now i think
i dunno just something fishy to me about their stuff......i mean 20 bucks for a 10" brand new sub from best buy with audio i say you get what you pay for
not brand new, LIKE brand new, from a garage sale, the amp i bought off my buddy who gets new stock like every weekend now i think
1PhatCX
05-04-2003, 09:28 PM
Also, all this parallel and series stuff, how do i do it? can u ppl please give me diagrams instead of telling me tho?? like a diagram for my 4 subs plz
Tony
05-04-2003, 09:35 PM
http://www.cynoptics.com/images/tony/series_parallel.jpg
EDIT: + and - on Amp is the Bridged channel
I think that is correct, please if someone thinks that is incorrect, please correct me.
Fierce, he won't be able to just plug them all into the + and - because I doubt his amp will be stable with 4 subs wired in just parallel, thus being the reasoning for me telling him on MSN to wire it up in series/parallel.
EDIT: + and - on Amp is the Bridged channel
I think that is correct, please if someone thinks that is incorrect, please correct me.
Fierce, he won't be able to just plug them all into the + and - because I doubt his amp will be stable with 4 subs wired in just parallel, thus being the reasoning for me telling him on MSN to wire it up in series/parallel.
turbcivic
05-04-2003, 09:50 PM
give me them ohms on the speakers and the ohms at which the amp is at and i will tell you how to wire them
91EF3ZC
05-04-2003, 10:24 PM
Originally posted by Tony
http://www.cynoptics.com/images/tony/series_parallel.jpg
EDIT: + and - on Amp is the Bridged channel
I think that is correct, please if someone thinks that is incorrect, please correct me.
Fierce, he won't be able to just plug them all into the + and - because I doubt his amp will be stable with 4 subs wired in just parallel, thus being the reasoning for me telling him on MSN to wire it up in series/parallel.
In your diagram, you have series the two boxes within in them selves. Each box sould now be 8ohms each. then you paralled the boxes together, to gain a 4ohm load at the amplifier. very good. you get a star!:angel:
http://www.cynoptics.com/images/tony/series_parallel.jpg
EDIT: + and - on Amp is the Bridged channel
I think that is correct, please if someone thinks that is incorrect, please correct me.
Fierce, he won't be able to just plug them all into the + and - because I doubt his amp will be stable with 4 subs wired in just parallel, thus being the reasoning for me telling him on MSN to wire it up in series/parallel.
In your diagram, you have series the two boxes within in them selves. Each box sould now be 8ohms each. then you paralled the boxes together, to gain a 4ohm load at the amplifier. very good. you get a star!:angel:
Tony
05-04-2003, 11:57 PM
ah ha!! that was my first attempt at figuring out the series/parallel thing, I remember reading a little about it before, because I didn't fully understand the reasoning behind series, but then I found out its useful when wiring a bunch of subs.
My guess is that the subs are probably 4 ohm subs, the amp is most likely 2 ohm stable. Therefore just trying to wire them in parallel would try to drop the amp down to 1 ohm, which would most likely fry the amp. Just my guess on this.
My guess is that the subs are probably 4 ohm subs, the amp is most likely 2 ohm stable. Therefore just trying to wire them in parallel would try to drop the amp down to 1 ohm, which would most likely fry the amp. Just my guess on this.
Tony
05-05-2003, 12:04 AM
also, i got a question for you turb, why the hell are you hitting that low? 144.1 with a 2500 watt system? you should be up in the mid 150's at lest man. I had my little 120 watt system almost up to yours, and I bet my 300 watt system was really damn close. So how do you have your subs wired? No offense, I'm not tryin to start shit, I'm just curious because you should be hitting a lot harder than 144.
91EF3ZC
05-05-2003, 08:11 AM
what is this?
fiercecivic
05-05-2003, 04:14 PM
this is what my setup is like
turbcivic
05-05-2003, 04:24 PM
Originally posted by Tony
also, i got a question for you turb, why the hell are you hitting that low? 144.1 with a 2500 watt system? you should be up in the mid 150's at lest man. I had my little 120 watt system almost up to yours, and I bet my 300 watt system was really damn close. So how do you have your subs wired? No offense, I'm not tryin to start shit, I'm just curious because you should be hitting a lot harder than 144.
Good catch, but two thigns you have look at for my system.
1) Amp wired at 4 ohms so i am only using about 1000 watts.
2) NEW METER FROM TERMPRO SUCKS. The new meter that DBdrag is using is linear and tighter then hell. At SBN, it dropped everybodyise scores about 7-8 db. My score on the old termpro meter is 151.7, score from yesterday, trying new stuff.
No offense taken. Could be really bad and say i do a 168 db port wars style(mic in the port):D
also, i got a question for you turb, why the hell are you hitting that low? 144.1 with a 2500 watt system? you should be up in the mid 150's at lest man. I had my little 120 watt system almost up to yours, and I bet my 300 watt system was really damn close. So how do you have your subs wired? No offense, I'm not tryin to start shit, I'm just curious because you should be hitting a lot harder than 144.
Good catch, but two thigns you have look at for my system.
1) Amp wired at 4 ohms so i am only using about 1000 watts.
2) NEW METER FROM TERMPRO SUCKS. The new meter that DBdrag is using is linear and tighter then hell. At SBN, it dropped everybodyise scores about 7-8 db. My score on the old termpro meter is 151.7, score from yesterday, trying new stuff.
No offense taken. Could be really bad and say i do a 168 db port wars style(mic in the port):D
Tony
05-05-2003, 08:08 PM
why don't you have the subs wired in a parallel running at 2 ohms? If both of your subs are 4 ohm subs, it will drop it down, then you should be closer to full potential of your system.
and 91ef, yes that is a wire, but why would you not need it? I thought in a series that is how you wired them up.
and 91ef, yes that is a wire, but why would you not need it? I thought in a series that is how you wired them up.
1PhatCX
05-05-2003, 08:17 PM
UGH STILL more problems :(
Amp #2 doesnt work either! :(
hes comin 2 help out tho, said it might be my wires even tho i'm getting full power when i checked with a multi meter but the remote doesnt wanna work :(
anything u guys can reccomend for me to try before he gets here?
Amp #2 doesnt work either! :(
hes comin 2 help out tho, said it might be my wires even tho i'm getting full power when i checked with a multi meter but the remote doesnt wanna work :(
anything u guys can reccomend for me to try before he gets here?
mightytexn
05-05-2003, 08:25 PM
Originally posted by Tony
and 91ef, yes that is a wire, but why would you not need it? I thought in a series that is how you wired them up.
You don't need a wire connecting the + and - of each sub....they are connected together inside the sub itself
and 91ef, yes that is a wire, but why would you not need it? I thought in a series that is how you wired them up.
You don't need a wire connecting the + and - of each sub....they are connected together inside the sub itself
1PhatCX
05-05-2003, 08:45 PM
Just thinkin here, if I take the plug out and connect the wires directly to the prongs on the amp, would this work? cuz i'm thinkin i might not have a good connection with the plug and the amp
fiercecivic
05-05-2003, 09:26 PM
why don't you have the subs wired in a parallel running at 2 ohms? If both of your subs are 4 ohm subs, it will drop it down, then you should be closer to full potential of your system.
Are you tlkin to me tony??
Are you tlkin to me tony??
Tony
05-05-2003, 09:37 PM
no, sorry wasn't talk to you fierce, that was for turb
oh yea, i wish i would have thought of that about the wire, oh well, either way it would work, right?
oh yea, i wish i would have thought of that about the wire, oh well, either way it would work, right?
1PhatCX
05-06-2003, 08:14 AM
BUMP!
so uh, noones knows about connecting it directly to the prongs on the amp? dammit! and he never showed up lastnight, well i think i might try some stuff this morning before school
so uh, noones knows about connecting it directly to the prongs on the amp? dammit! and he never showed up lastnight, well i think i might try some stuff this morning before school
1PhatCX
05-06-2003, 04:24 PM
Bump... again
does anyone have any ideas dammit!!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!!
does anyone have any ideas dammit!!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!!
fiercecivic
05-06-2003, 04:54 PM
i guess not dude, chill:smoker2:
crxlvr
05-06-2003, 05:25 PM
try buying new amps.
maybe you melted the boards inside or something.
maybe you melted the boards inside or something.
turbcivic
05-06-2003, 06:15 PM
Bad amps
I can't wire them down to 2 ohms only 1,4, or 8. The amp is parrel inside but it likes like a two channel amp, but only monoblock. I wish i could take it down to one ohm, cause i had directed electronis mod it for me so that it would go down to one ohm. But i was advised that the amp has 60% chance of blowing if i burp it at one ohm without 14 or more volts so i am stuck at 151 with only 1000 watts. Sounds good to me.
I can't wire them down to 2 ohms only 1,4, or 8. The amp is parrel inside but it likes like a two channel amp, but only monoblock. I wish i could take it down to one ohm, cause i had directed electronis mod it for me so that it would go down to one ohm. But i was advised that the amp has 60% chance of blowing if i burp it at one ohm without 14 or more volts so i am stuck at 151 with only 1000 watts. Sounds good to me.
91EF3ZC
05-06-2003, 09:30 PM
give us a pic of what you are trying to do
1PhatCX
05-06-2003, 10:10 PM
AMP WORKS!!! YEA YEA
God damn bad ground :(
sounds good tho from the rockfords, think i'm gonna put the Lanaza XLR on cuz my dad said they sound better , ne ways i'm happy
peace hehe
God damn bad ground :(
sounds good tho from the rockfords, think i'm gonna put the Lanaza XLR on cuz my dad said they sound better , ne ways i'm happy
peace hehe
1PhatCX
05-07-2003, 10:43 PM
Blah, i'm back, need help again :rolleyes: i've heard of bridging the anp (i think this is it) for just 2 subs, cuz my 10's r gonna be my test subs right now and tryin new shit, how do i bridge this? and what exactly does it do? and any other ideas to get more power outta this amp, diagrams would help ALOT
thanx guys :D
thanx guys :D
1PhatCX
05-08-2003, 02:58 PM
Bump!
Yo guys. so does ne one know how 2 bridge the amp? i wanna know so i can hook it up tonight if it gives me more power hehe
Yo guys. so does ne one know how 2 bridge the amp? i wanna know so i can hook it up tonight if it gives me more power hehe
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