suzuki gixxer 600 or 750
PoisonFangs
05-02-2003, 06:07 PM
hey guys im a new rider looking to buy my first bike, i have heard that the 600 gixxer is kinda slow but the 750 is a whole lot fast, not just cus the cc's but because of some tuning suzuki did. I dont know what do you guys recommend
YellowMaranello
05-02-2003, 07:47 PM
Neither, get a 500cc or less bike to start with.
suzymatt
05-03-2003, 01:25 AM
i agree, the less cc's the better 4 your first bike, otherwise ull just end up killing yourself or injuring yourself savagely.
94tegRS
05-03-2003, 05:41 PM
unless your not stupid and dont drive crazy til you learn to control the bike.
speediva
05-04-2003, 05:18 PM
Originally posted by PoisonFangs
hey guys im a new rider looking to buy my first bike, i have heard that the 600 gixxer is kinda slow but the 750 is a whole lot fast, not just cus the cc's but because of some tuning suzuki did. I dont know what do you guys recommend
I'd recommend a Kawasaki EX500 or a Suzuki GS500 for a new rider. Both are EXCELLENT starter bikes and especially the EX500s will keep their speed and your interest for a few years.
hey guys im a new rider looking to buy my first bike, i have heard that the 600 gixxer is kinda slow but the 750 is a whole lot fast, not just cus the cc's but because of some tuning suzuki did. I dont know what do you guys recommend
I'd recommend a Kawasaki EX500 or a Suzuki GS500 for a new rider. Both are EXCELLENT starter bikes and especially the EX500s will keep their speed and your interest for a few years.
IntegraB18LS
05-04-2003, 06:05 PM
i have been learning on a '78 suzuki gs 550... its ugly but its not gonna kill me.. at the end of the summer i plan to get a GSX-R 600 or 750, i drove my friends GSX-R600 the other day, if i had that right now i would be dead...
R1-rider
05-04-2003, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by 94tegRS
unless your not stupid and dont drive crazy til you learn to control the bike.
No, it doesnt work like that, it takes you a while to get used to the way to bike functions and reacts, you WILL make mistakes.
Think about when you first started driving cars, you made mistakes, same principal for the motorcycle, now would you rather of had your family sedan as your first car you drove, or a F1 Kart car? A superbike is almost identical to a F1 car stock for stock, it makes absolutely insanes amount of power, so much that you can't even respect it just looking at the numbers.
Start out on a 500-600 older inline 4, or a cruiser. You don't want to become a human crayon just because your ego thinks you can.
unless your not stupid and dont drive crazy til you learn to control the bike.
No, it doesnt work like that, it takes you a while to get used to the way to bike functions and reacts, you WILL make mistakes.
Think about when you first started driving cars, you made mistakes, same principal for the motorcycle, now would you rather of had your family sedan as your first car you drove, or a F1 Kart car? A superbike is almost identical to a F1 car stock for stock, it makes absolutely insanes amount of power, so much that you can't even respect it just looking at the numbers.
Start out on a 500-600 older inline 4, or a cruiser. You don't want to become a human crayon just because your ego thinks you can.
Blue02R6
05-06-2003, 04:17 AM
I agree and disagree with you all. While I agree it's smart to start out on a low power bike. It is possible to start on a new 600cc bike if you let the bike teach you how to ride. I am living proof, my first and only bike is an R6. Of course, I've had some very frightening expirences because of my choice but having a cool head on my shoulders helps. I must stress that it IS a bad idea to start out on a rocket!
speediva
05-06-2003, 09:41 AM
Never said it's not possible, it's just stupid. I started on a single cylinder 650cc, and while it was okay to learn on, I didn't really start feeling secure until I took the MSF course. I didn't worry at all on the 125s because they are so small. It gave me just enough confidence to get me over the "scary" hump. Then I spent all last summer on my GS500, and now this year I ride my dad's VFR800 with only a few fears (like, if I go down on this and survive will my father kill me?).
R1-rider
05-06-2003, 12:42 PM
Not impossible as Saturn said, my good friend started out on a gsxr600, he came close to crashing it several times. Not everybody will, but I would rather just steer then away from a sportsbike because of the VERY high chance that he will crash it. There is a reason there are so many crashed bikes for sale, and not all of it is from stunting.
94tegRS
05-06-2003, 10:06 PM
ok, sure it would be nice to learn on a smaller bike, but why spend money on a small bike if you dont want it later, I have always been taught to start out right the first time, saves tons of money down the road. and I drive crazy, I know I do, but when I first get into a car or on a dirt bike, or whatever, I take it easy til I know I can handle it. I learned to drive in my 66 pickup wiht a 400 small block/ 4 speed. sure it was no rocket, but had PLENTY of power for me to hurt myself bad. Im gonna start out on a cbr600F4i or the kawasaki niunja ZX6R, I like the interceptor cuz the 800cc vtec engine sounds like loads of power, but it looks too plain.
suzymatt
05-07-2003, 02:27 AM
Originally posted by 94tegRS
ok, sure it would be nice to learn on a smaller bike, but why spend money on a small bike if you dont want it later, I have always been taught to start out right the first time, saves tons of money down the road. and I drive crazy, I know I do, but when I first get into a car or on a dirt bike, or whatever, I take it easy til I know I can handle it. I learned to drive in my 66 pickup wiht a 400 small block/ 4 speed. sure it was no rocket, but had PLENTY of power for me to hurt myself bad. Im gonna start out on a cbr600F4i or the kawasaki niunja ZX6R, I like the interceptor cuz the 800cc vtec engine sounds like loads of power, but it looks too plain.
you might choose 2 gamble with your life 2 save a few dollars, but its not worth it.
learning to drive in a pickup is one thing, hoping on a sportsbike with an insane amount of power with no riding experience is suicide. I may only be 18, but i learnt to ride on a 80cc dirt bike 11years ago, and even that was enough 2 start with. i seriously recommend a bike under 400cc until you have worked out how they handle, pick-up, brake, and most importantly until you have some experience on a bike. its not just your own mistakes you have 2 watch on a bike, its all the other bad drivers out there too.
ok, sure it would be nice to learn on a smaller bike, but why spend money on a small bike if you dont want it later, I have always been taught to start out right the first time, saves tons of money down the road. and I drive crazy, I know I do, but when I first get into a car or on a dirt bike, or whatever, I take it easy til I know I can handle it. I learned to drive in my 66 pickup wiht a 400 small block/ 4 speed. sure it was no rocket, but had PLENTY of power for me to hurt myself bad. Im gonna start out on a cbr600F4i or the kawasaki niunja ZX6R, I like the interceptor cuz the 800cc vtec engine sounds like loads of power, but it looks too plain.
you might choose 2 gamble with your life 2 save a few dollars, but its not worth it.
learning to drive in a pickup is one thing, hoping on a sportsbike with an insane amount of power with no riding experience is suicide. I may only be 18, but i learnt to ride on a 80cc dirt bike 11years ago, and even that was enough 2 start with. i seriously recommend a bike under 400cc until you have worked out how they handle, pick-up, brake, and most importantly until you have some experience on a bike. its not just your own mistakes you have 2 watch on a bike, its all the other bad drivers out there too.
R1-rider
05-07-2003, 02:54 AM
Well, PoisonFangs whatever you do, do NOT follow in the footsteps of this 94teg guy. If you value your life enoguh to put aside your ego and actually listen to what every single person you talk to says, you will get the drift that starting out on a sportbike is like playing russian roulette. It takes time to get used to your bike, and even after a few years of riding the bike will still suprise you every now and then. And like suzymatt said, 95% of the close calls I come in are not my fault. I get pulled out infront of and merged into almost every ride. A sportbike does not have enough room to carry your ego.
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Blue02R6
05-07-2003, 03:48 AM
I agree with you there. I don't recomend starting out on an R-6, if they have :rolleyes: to get a rocket then F4i or F3. Usually I suggest the SV650s. As that's what all my buddies learned on. They cost about $128 to fix if, er when you drop em, and they're fairly forgiving. Whatever you do don't go out there and push your bike hard or try to keep up with anyone else. Ride where you're comfortable, and where a helmet all the time, everytime.
speediva
05-07-2003, 09:21 AM
I agree with the SV650S. If your balls MUST be bigger than your brains, get a nice twin to start with. The F4i is okay, but I ALWAYS argue for used for a first bike. YOU WILL DROP IT and I don't care who has/hasn't... YOU WILL if you think you MUST start on a 600cc bike. You can pick up a nice, cheap F3 or F2 used, and then resell for almost the same value. By the end of that first year you may be ready to buy a new bike and spend that money on the bike you wanted in the first place. Skin grafts cost a LOT more than buying a smaller bike to start with.
Blue02R6
05-08-2003, 01:39 AM
Yup. I dropped mine twice in row. It's those d**n slanty curbs. No wait it was three times. The last of which was because of sand backin' out of my driveway, but on the plus side I dropped it after the damage was done. My mother tried to push it into the garage and dropped it. :( That was before I did my threepeat on the concrete. (Or however that's spelled.) So I split the repair cost with her, and got an akrapovic slip-on. Anyway, I'm thinking about getting a ninja 250 or 500 for my girl to learn on. She's 5' to 5'2" and 110lbs max. What do you think?
PoisonFangs
05-08-2003, 07:47 AM
whats up guys thanks for all your info, no some of you may hate me for this but i am going to get the gixxer 600. I have my permit now but im going to get the bike and ride with a few buddies to get comfortable, and even though i do not have to im trying to get inrolled into an msf course, thanks againg.
R1-rider
05-08-2003, 02:24 PM
Thanks for raising my insurance rates.
x0shadow0x
05-24-2003, 04:54 PM
actually the 750 is much betta than the 600. my boy has the 750 and he likes it betta than the 600, he even rode the 600 and said he prefers the 600, but my otha boy has a 600 and likes that betta. there are alot of 600 out there too many. it is kinda crazy to start out wit a new bike since there are gonna be mistakes made and not all of them u can get out of whether or not it is ur fault or not. start out small and ride for a lil bit on it then when ur comfortable then u can go get a betta bike. im gonna look into the kawasaki ex500, it looks pretty good and u can learn on it. afta i learn i might get the R6 or F4, not really sure but i prefer the R6. iight then ppl lata:flipa:
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