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$40,000 to spend, but lost...?!?!?!


Bel7ail
10-30-2001, 06:24 PM
This is the first car i'm going to buy. I'm given a 40k limit. My choices are: ( all cars are fully equiped, except for cold weather package)
BMW 330ci Coupe
BMW 330i Sedan
Audi TT Roadster 225hp quattro
Chevrolet Camaro 35th aniversary SS

I have recieved an offer from two dealers for 35K on the SS, but unless i get a lower deal, i won't go with the SS, even though i have a 40K limit.

I live in daytona beach florida, so that's a reason why i want the roadster TT. It has a 225hp inline 4 cylinder, 0-60 in 6.4, correct me if i'm wrong, and is 4wd, quattro. I'm here in daytona alone, so i'm not worried about have a 2 seater.

I also am interested in the 330. My sister owns a 2000 328i sedan, fully loaded except ski package and navigation. I really like her car and it perform really well, which is why i'm interested in the 3-series. In-line 6 cylinder, 225hp, 0-60 6.1 (coupe).

So as you can see, i'm trying to narrow down my choices to at least one so i can order it in time to get it around X-mass time.

<i was thinking about the M-Benz C230 Kompressor Sports Coupe, as a last resort>

So if there is anyone out there with some feed back. Oh i forgot to mention that i was in the field looking for a sporty car that looks good, but i have to feel comfortable in the car first, then i'll worry about performance. which is why i like the 3-series for obvious reasons. I was also woundering if anyone thought they might give the rear tail light look on the sedan on the 2003 coupe??

hakka
10-30-2001, 06:52 PM
I would probably go with the Camaro...I'm sure that if you showed them the money they might go down a little more on the price. If not, I would take the TT.

By the way, welcome to AF:)

ultimatedriver7
10-30-2001, 07:28 PM
Yo,

I would definately definately definately get the 330 coupe. You won't regret it, and it won't be hard to get under the 40K limit if you are careful. BTW those numbers for the TT are very sketchy. My friend has one and we tested it at 7.4 to sixty and yes it was as quattro 225 hp model. The BMW will be the most attractive car you will ever own and take advantage of the fact that you dont need the other doors- eventually you will. Also, consider steptronic. Its pretty cool. I had it on my last BMW. Nav is good if you need it, but if not skip it. HK is a must, but for daytona i would skip the cold weather stuff. The backup system is also stupid-skip that. Get the rear window shade though because it works well. Don't let them talk you into a CD changer because you can add a factory one for 200 bucks off the internet. Ditto for the cell phone. Also be sure to pick your colors carefully or else you may grow tired of them- the case with my former car. Get the performance package definately and also pobably the premium package. Those numbers should crunch to about 40.

BTW, a mercedes compressor c230? What were you thinking lol!!!
Stay away from the camaro as its a dead car as of next year.

Oh also as a final thought I think you will really enjoy the extremely low operating costs of a BMW. My range in the 330 is about 425 miles, and i only change the oil every 18000 miles or so. Go BMW and you wont regret it a bit.

Bel7ail
10-30-2001, 08:23 PM
You said "backup system", what exactly is that?

ultimatedriver7
10-30-2001, 08:34 PM
the backup system is just the reverse sensor on the back of the car that beeps when there is something back there. its really just a gimmic and it looks bad and costs 300 bucks so dont buy it. anyone who is a decent driver can make due without it. my major hangup about it is that the little sensors look terrible.

Bel7ail
10-30-2001, 08:51 PM
you mean, the rear park distance control, lol. well i the only options i dont want are the heated seats, park control, and i'm not sure about the bi-xenon lights, just the low beam xenon. i wanted also the navigation cuz the inside of the car made it so much good looking then with out it. plus there are more features when you get the navigation you get to use on the screen, like the sound balancing, millage till empty, average speed, and other cool stuff for the GPS.
Back in June i went to the dealer to see how much it would cost, 2001 330 coupe, total with sports, preimum package, and metalic package, and navigation was 39,500

I just built the 330 coupe and the options were, steel blue metalic paint, black leather, and wood trim. premium package, sports package, navigation, AM/FM cassette, and Bi-Xenon headlights. The total 42,110 is what it says online on the website. I understand that this is above what the dealer would say, would this still be the same as the price that i configured for 2001 back in june? plus the $700 for bi-xenon which would roughly be 40,200

EdgarFan659
10-31-2001, 09:36 AM
Get the 330ci. You'll get the comfort and performance. Not to mention the fact that the 3-series coup is a beautiful car. Everyone will be jealous. :)

I'm biased to BMW though. I know a bunch of others here are too...hehe.

328isRob
10-31-2001, 10:45 AM
Forget the SS... it goes fast in a straight line and have no real finesse.
Forget the TT... it goes fast in adverse weather conditions. AND and chicks car.
BMW sedan... the back seats are for kids... are you there yet?
BMW coupe... the back seats are for extra hookers. It handles better than the above (with the exception of the TT) its faster in the straights than the above (except the SS), it is more stylish and has more buttons and wistles than the above.

It is interesting that you have put the SS in the lineup here... I'm assuming you like the muscle... look at a 1-2 year old 540i.

Bel7ail
11-02-2001, 05:39 PM
OK. i went to the BMW dealer yesterday to get a price quote with the options i want
Premium Package
Sport Package
Bi-Xenon Headlights
On-board Naviagation System
AM/FM cassette

Total______________$38,960 <price does not include license and taxes>


P.S. I'm tax exepmt so i dont have to pay tax on the car

ultimatedriver7
11-02-2001, 07:21 PM
Hey,


How did you get to be tax exempt you lucky dog? I believe the 2002 prices jumped about 900 bucks compared to last year. Sounds like a nice car! I think you are making a mistake by ordering a black interior however. If i were you i would go with sand, or even better pick an exterior color that goes with the great new brown color in the inside.

My two cents.

UltimateDriver7
'01 330Ci
soon to be '02 M3

ultimatedriver7
11-02-2001, 07:31 PM
Hey,


How did you get to be tax exempt you lucky dog? I believe the 2002 prices jumped about 900 bucks compared to last year. Sounds like a nice car! I think you are making a mistake by ordering a black interior however. If i were you i would go with sand, or even better pick an exterior color that goes with the great new brown color in the inside.

My two cents.

UltimateDriver7
'01 330Ci
soon to be '02 M3

F20C
11-03-2001, 01:02 AM
Audi TT 225hp Roadster have a manufacture suggested time of 6.7 seconds.

Bel7ail
11-03-2001, 07:15 PM
well the only reason i choose a black interiot is b/c my sister has the gray interior, and it choose a dark spot, which is from over the days she's driven the car. Same problem with our other car, GMC Yukon XL, it starts to get a dark shade where your butt is. So i think that getting black wount show and dirty spots or a constant use of the seat. i havn't seen the brown leather however. Has anyone seen it in person and not in pictures???

Bel7ail
11-14-2001, 01:21 PM
OK I'M HEADING OUT TO THE DEALER, towards the end of this week.
the car: 2002 BMW 330Ci $31,840
Destination & Handling $645
Metallic Paint $475
Premium Package $2,900
Sport Package $600
Navigation $1,800
AM/FM Stero $0
Bi-Xenon Headlights $700
Total ________$38,960__

There was one option I asked the dealer about, the Rear window sunshade, which he said wasn't availabe. But I know for a fact that it can be ordered, I just need the order number, can anyone help me on this one?

P.S. feedback about my order would be helpful, thanks
P.P.S. Exterior color?? so far all I know is that its metallic my options are saphire black/steel blue/gray green/steel gray

F20C
11-14-2001, 01:45 PM
Do you really need navigation? Are you going on long trips out of state?

EdgarFan659
11-14-2001, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by Bel7ail

P.S. feedback about my order would be helpful, thanks
P.P.S. Exterior color?? so far all I know is that its metallic my options are saphire black/steel blue/gray green/steel gray

Don't forget the other metallic options: orient blue, topaz blue, and titanium silver. Personally, I like the Topaz blue the best but I hear saphire black looks really awesome too. Just don't get the silver - I see way too many cars in that price range that have that color (BMW, Mercedes, Audi S4's).

Bel7ail
11-14-2001, 05:41 PM
F20C....i would prefer to have GPS, its not a must, but i desire.
about the metallic colors, those that i listed were the ones i wanted, i wasn't trying to list all the metallic that they had. but i guess i'm leaning more towards saphire black/steel blue/steel gray. i havn't seen the steel gray yet in real life, but in the brochure it looks pretty good.

F20C
11-14-2001, 05:56 PM
The rear window sunshade is a option on M3.

Bel7ail
11-14-2001, 05:59 PM
yeah, it is on the M3, it also is an option on the 330 Coupe, but i need the option number

ultimatedriver7
11-14-2001, 06:55 PM
of course he/she doesnt need the nav system... but they dont need a BMW either. The nav system is cool and worth the dough imho

gang$tarr
11-18-2001, 07:56 PM
I would definetly go BMW 330ci it's sporty/comfortable/luxurious, it's got everything you need. The TT is slow, the SS isn't my kind of car... and you don't need 4-doors

I got the navigation system in mine and i think you're right, it does look better with it :D

Bel7ail
11-27-2001, 01:55 AM
Thanks for the Info, Power rear sunshade is available ($255 invoice, $300 MSRP, option code 415).

ultimatedriver7
11-28-2001, 04:56 PM
You definately dont want this color. It's butt ugly. I know because i saw an unattended 3 series a few weeks ago in this color and couldnt believe my eyes. I thought it had to be an aftermarket color so i logged onto the bmw website but to my amazement they had added this as a color. I would also go topaz blue or steel blue if getting a metallic, also three series are really pretty in white. steel grey is nice but you cant get tan leather with it so i would stay away from that.
All in my humble opinion.

UltimateDriver7

ultimatedriver7
11-28-2001, 05:33 PM
You definately dont want this color. It's butt ugly. I know because i saw an unattended 3 series a few weeks ago in this color and couldnt believe my eyes. I thought it had to be an aftermarket color so i logged onto the bmw website but to my amazement they had added this as a color. I would also go topaz blue or steel blue if getting a metallic, also three series are really pretty in white. steel grey is nice but you cant get tan leather with it so i would stay away from that.
All in my humble opinion.

UltimateDriver7

gang$tarr
11-28-2001, 07:57 PM
deja vu?

ultimatedriver7
11-28-2001, 08:19 PM
My comps been acting up. I am POSITIVE I didnt send the message twice...

chak22
11-29-2001, 01:02 PM
How did you get a 330CI for only 3K more than my fully loaded 325CI?
Seriously jealous.....Enjoy your new car, it is by far the best car in its class for the money. :alien:

Bel7ail
12-04-2001, 07:34 PM
I got a Diplomatic discount :-P

Artis
02-08-2002, 05:35 AM
Around 40K - buy a Porsche Boxster.

gang$tarr
02-08-2002, 06:54 PM
Originally posted by Artis
Around 40K - buy a Porsche Boxster.

The boxster is slow as hell for the price and for a porsche... you could fina something better

Bel7ail
02-11-2002, 10:35 PM
Boxter??? no thanks, like what gang$ta said, too slow for the money you put into it, and of course too slow for a porsche

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