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AWD Primera
10-30-2001, 04:52 PM
Check this out:
http://www.tau-net.co.jp/images/22414/PIC00007.jpg


BUGGER!:bloated:

AWD Primera
10-30-2001, 04:54 PM
GTR VSpec, done only 5000km. You can buy it for $17000 NZ. Thats about $US7000! Dam!

Nismoboy1
10-30-2001, 05:05 PM
ouch :eek: you know what...that looks like a nissan lot

ragt20
10-30-2001, 05:17 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek: ouch painful:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

ricecube77
10-30-2001, 06:31 PM
Holy Geez...

Is that a Skyline i see?

I'm going to cry, especially im in the US and never seen an skyline....

-Phil

rob99sp
10-30-2001, 06:57 PM
Was the driver OK? ,,, That looks like a deadly T-Bone Drivers side.

GTS-4 Ben
10-30-2001, 07:08 PM
Thats what happens when you drive your GTR into a poll..

What a waste.

AWD Primera
10-30-2001, 07:18 PM
I would say it is the result of a bit of "spirited" driving that ended up with some Rich Guy wrapping his brand new GTR Skyline around a pole. Its a shame really because he could have given it to me instead!!:silly2:

Fortunately for the driver its a right hand drive - not so fortunate for any passengers!

super 96 accord
10-30-2001, 07:51 PM
I got dibs on the rims!! Those still look good!

G-Forces
10-30-2001, 09:42 PM
The wonder of AWD! :D

GTR-33
10-31-2001, 03:52 PM
Ill give you 100 bucks for it...7k for a totaled R34?

nubiannupe
10-31-2001, 04:25 PM
Originally posted by super 96 accord
I got dibs on the rims!! Those still look good!

Funny, but I was thinking the SAME THING!!!:D Hope the passengers were ok, if there were any in there.

redvalkrie
10-31-2001, 06:14 PM
:( My heart just skipped a beat, i feel for the beast!:(


I wan't to cry, my dream car & some one else just treats them like crap!:(

atomic-G
10-31-2001, 06:29 PM
You thought that was bad :).

Lesson #1 - don't let a girl drive a skyline ;) .. a friend of mine's sister and her skyline .. or what's left of it. Passenger was ok, just received internal injuries and a concussion. And amazingly, the car is fixed!

The guy has 2 Skylines and 2 Holden;

Skyline GTR 1994 model R34
Skyline 1998 GTR model R34
2000 VT GTS - 300kw White
2001 VX

I think he might be bullshitting though, because he mentioned he's from Cali and then when I saw the pic of the skyline, that looks like a japanese truck there. Or am I wrong? I guess I just don't see those type of trucks in North America :)

atomic-G
10-31-2001, 06:33 PM
Dig the white

AWD Primera
10-31-2001, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by atomicfrog
You thought that was bad :).

I think he might be bullshitting though, because he mentioned he's from Cali and then when I saw the pic of the skyline, that looks like a japanese truck there. Or am I wrong? I guess I just don't see those type of trucks in North America :)
Dude - thats not a Skyline. Thats an S15 200sx with the GT Body Kit. Awesome looking car - shame about the Panel Damage!
That Skyline looks a bit like the cartoon pic for Automotive Forums:
http://www.automotiveforums.com/img/logo.gif

GoodJuan
11-01-2001, 05:30 AM
driver was too busy looking at his trick g-force meter.

96SEChick
11-01-2001, 07:54 AM
If this is the car he said was a Skyline that he wrecked in California, he is bullshitting you. This is actually a Silvia, and the pictures have been posted on an Australian website for a while--I've seen it posted on other boards before.

Originally posted by atomicfrog
You thought that was bad :).

Lesson #1 - don't let a girl drive a skyline ;) .. a friend of mine's sister and her skyline .. or what's left of it. Passenger was ok, just received internal injuries and a concussion. And amazingly, the car is fixed!

The guy has 2 Skylines and 2 Holden;

Skyline GTR 1994 model R34
Skyline 1998 GTR model R34
2000 VT GTS - 300kw White
2001 VX

I think he might be bullshitting though, because he mentioned he's from Cali and then when I saw the pic of the skyline, that looks like a japanese truck there. Or am I wrong? I guess I just don't see those type of trucks in North America :)

GTR-33
11-01-2001, 04:03 PM
That guy is full of BS! A 94 R34?!? I would maybe believe if he got the models right. The R33 came out in 94, and the R34 in 98. Yeah, that pic is of an S15 Silvia. In the US they are the 240SX. The 200SX is a FF car, and is more like a Sentra.

R34_GT-t
11-02-2001, 08:32 PM
Have a look at this damaged R33 GTR in Japan.

kennydead
11-07-2001, 06:55 PM
may i have the front cut of the crashed R34 pls???

i need the front to fit on my R32. thats my next project when i finished my R32 25T. i wanna fit a R34 front on my R32.

i saw it b4 in photoshop, its freaking awesome!!!!!

tazdev
11-08-2001, 02:37 AM
Soooo Soooo sad how can bad things happen to such nice cars.

some people shouldn't be allowed to drive:devil:

MFX_R33
11-08-2001, 05:17 PM
The 200SX is a FF car, and is more like a Sentra.

Actually the S14 and S15 Silvia's were and currently are released in Australia as a 200SX.

The same cars are released all round the world with different names, why can't they just stick with one and be done with it?

Jeff.

Tango GTS-4
11-08-2001, 09:31 PM
An apparent GTR crash at 300km/h

96SEChick
11-09-2001, 07:48 AM
Originally posted by MFX_R33


Actually the S14 and S15 Silvia's were and currently are released in Australia as a 200SX.

The same cars are released all round the world with different names, why can't they just stick with one and be done with it?

Jeff.

The S14 and S15 were released I believe everywhere except the US w/ an SR20DET engine, that's why they're called 200SX. Here in the US and Canada they have the KA24DE, so they were called the 240SX. If I remember right, the reason the US and Canada didn't get the SR20DET was because of the emissions laws in North America, and Nissan probably would have charged more for them because they are turbo-charged, and they were already selling (not very well, though) for roughly $25000 so they would have bombed in sales worse than they did w/ the KA24DE.

N/A
11-09-2001, 11:30 AM
I dont know what all this appearent b/s is about but let me just let all of you guys and gals know, it is a genuine R34 Vpec 2 damaged. Pics were taken by a company in Japan which sells damaged cars. Sold for 860,000 Japanese Yen.
Hope this straightens everything out.

Shin-Kai Racing
11-09-2001, 12:21 PM
R34 GTR wheels can be had from most used parts/wheel outlets in Japan for about $2K USD.

Dale
SKR

Shin-Kai Racing
11-09-2001, 01:03 PM
With the exception of the white Skyline (cannot verify by looking at the side view) all of these pictures are acquired from Japan. The silver S15 is a Japanese one. Look at the rear license plate on the truck. It's a kanji plate, and there is the absence of the left hand drive which you would see if it were left hand drive.

S15 was never released in the US due to poor sales from subsequent years with S14. 200SX in Europe/AUS/NZ is based on 180SX platform. If you say the 200SX is an FF car, you might want to put your car on a lift and check it all out yourself. Nissan figured the US population would buy a car with stylish looks with no guts. Back then, the trend was all about economy-based vehicles and to add another turbo car (ZX phased out due to overpricing and overweight) to the already ailing Nissan market back then did not make sense. What they did not figure out was that buyers would not support a new car that looked fast but had no go, especially one that sold for approx $25K USD. For that kind of smack, one who wanted performance could buy a Honda/Acura and make it faster and handle better than the 240SX ever could. What if they sold the S14 back then with SR20DET option here in the US? I think Americans would have supported it, especially after the 300ZX was phased out. I remember reading Road and Track and SCC back then with stories related to what was going to be the next big thing from Nissan, as far as a sports car was concerned. Honestly, there was nothing. Nissan tried to persuade US Nissan sports car enthusiasts to get into the Maxima (no hit against the Maxima crowd). Then we saw everybody here get on the Nissan nostalgia trip, including Nissan, with acquiring old 240Zs, refurbishing/restoring them back to mint factory condition, and selling them through select Nissan dealers in the US. Nissan drivers went through an identity crisis, trying to badge family cars with GT-R emblems, wings, lights whatever. Just trying to figure out what happened. Sorry, most people who drive Nissans in the US went through this dark time, but I think we are seeing the end of the era of ridicule.

What I post is purely my opinion based on things I've seen/experienced here in the US and in Japan, as well as knowledge acquired through my daily dealings with industry reps for both OEM and aftermarket. I don't tout to be a subject matter expert, but just a well-informed parts merchant with history of driving both Japanese home market cars, as well as those made for the US market. Other than that, I'm just like you all. Just coming here for info and to hear your thoughts. Just be leery of somebody posting a pic of "their" car on the forums, especially when their geographical location does not jibe with the location that the picture depicts.

Dale
SKR

NiteskyR
11-12-2001, 10:22 AM
hmmmm
dont quite know about the silver , watever!!!

s13man
11-12-2001, 03:52 PM
i feel kind of sorry that your 240's came with truck engines and worst of all a FF layout. one of the best things about owning a 200sx is the FR layout which as many would know results in some good sideways driftin it large like your never coming back stylz (sorry gettn carried away) action.

i have however heard of some nutters putting blowers on the 2.4 and apparently it then produces good power (at the front wheels????).

jason 1.6el
11-12-2001, 05:35 PM
acura integra type R in the ditch at 200 km/h

Pva_Glue
11-12-2001, 05:50 PM
Nice Wheel!!

I want one exactly like that on my skyline...:)

MFX_R33
11-12-2001, 05:53 PM
I'm not sure, but it sounds like the 240SX came out with the same dismal engine we got here in the Nissan Bluebird as a FF. Where as Japan got the SR20DET 4WD Bluebird. No wonder the 240SX's sales flopped. Here it has always been popular due to it's impressive performance, and the S15 sales are booming, due to sexy styling, performance (although power is down from the Japanese 185kw mark to 147kw) and it killing it's main competitor, the Subaru WRX which is much heavier and slower than the previous model.

Jeff.

Shin-Kai Racing
11-12-2001, 08:30 PM
The 240SX came in the FR layout. I don't know who has been stating that it is an FF layout. The SR20DET does bolt right in, but we do have to take care of swapping out all things, such as the tranny, harnesses, ECU, sensors, etc. The rear end is the same as the 180SX/200SX. The only good thing about the KA24DE is that it has more torque (it's a truck motor, for chrissakes it better have torque!). The body and all things associated with it is identical to the 180SX/240SX. The only real diff in the body was that the S13 coupe came with standard 180SX/200SX facade. I have friends in Yokohama who've gone the route of swapping out their Silvia front facades for 180SXs. It is a mean look. I'm really not a fan of the Sileighty look (to each his/her own)

The conversion of the KA24DE platform to one with forced induction has been done mainly in California and Atlanta with great success. Anybody with a good understanding/hands-on knowledge of forced induction and knows the strengths and weaknesses of the KA24DE can do a turbo install, albeit it takes money and patience and a well-planned evolution for it to occur without hiccups. CARB certification and emissions (myth or fact?) keep many from doing a SR swap, but I cannot see why an SR would fail emissions tests in the US when the emissions test at the Land Tax Offices (LTO) in Japan use California DOT specs when we take our vehicles in for inspection. I suppose that this may point at an area where the engine just isn't tuned well and is running outside parameters where it would be flagged for emissions, regardless of what the engine make was. Anyone with actual knowledge of this please post your thoughts.

Dale
SKR Performance

96SEChick
11-12-2001, 10:18 PM
Shin-Kai--you're exactly right--the 240SX is a rear-wheel drive car. The 240SX never came to the US as a AWD car, and the KA24DE is not a "truck engine"--it was actually made originally for a car, but it was most common in the trucks before the 240SX.

Shin-Kai Racing
11-13-2001, 04:58 PM
96SE- I didn't expound on the fact that the KA24E and KA24DE did come in a few automobiles in Japan, as well as in some utility trucks because of the torque factor.

I was trying to clarify that the 240SX is an FR, not an FF, as had been previously stated by other members of the forum.

MFX- The Bluebird SSS had a few runs with AWD and turbo to boot. These were made specifically for the niche of the market where one was "coerced" into owning a family grocery-getter, but with a little something under the hood. Kind of the best of both worlds. I do not remember it being an SR20DET, though. I want to say that it was a SOHC configuration, akin to the early US version S12 (this was the 200SX turbo here in the US). For those of you reading this, the late 80s/early 90s US Nissan Stanza was called the Nissan Bluebird in Japan.

Dale
SKR Performance

MFX_R33
11-13-2001, 09:52 PM
The U12 Bluebird SSS was sold in CA18DET and SR20DET 4wd forms, as well as other non-turbo variants. The SR20 had 151kw where as the U13 came with the SR20DET with 155kw (mostly due to a central front mounted intercooler, as opposed to the U12s top mount).

I got this info form our local (AUS) import mag, High Performance Imports.

Jeff.

96SEChick
11-14-2001, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by Shin-Kai Racing
96SE- I didn't expound on the fact that the KA24E and KA24DE did come in a few automobiles in Japan, as well as in some utility trucks because of the torque factor.

I know. I'm sorry---I should have separated the 2 statements. What's worse than thinking the 240SX is FR, was when some guy that I worked with asked me "What model Honda is that?" lol

Not that I dislike Honda's----they're very dependable cars. Just wanted to clear that up before I got flamed for a statement that may have been taken incorrectly.

s13man
11-14-2001, 04:00 PM
What's worse than thinking the 240SX is FR.

now i'm gettn confused. i thought u guys were trying to tell me it is front mounted enginge powering the rear wheels. this statement implies the opposite.

so what'l it be guys?

it is

s13man
11-14-2001, 04:02 PM
or maybee its a joke.

Whats worse than thinking the 240sx if FR?

thinking its FF......hehehehehe:D

F20C
11-14-2001, 04:45 PM
Originally posted by rob99sp
Was the driver OK? ,,, That looks like a deadly T-Bone Drivers side.

The accident happen in Japan right? So the side that got hit should be the passenger side since it's RHD.

Shin-Kai Racing
11-14-2001, 04:51 PM
S13man-

96SE got it in reverse. 240SX is FR, and I think she meant to say that. 240SX is the same as 180SX and 200SX in all respects except powerplant, electrical, ECU, tranny, et al. The SR20DET swaps that have been done successfully in the US for those 240SX folks who want what everybody else in the freeworld got requires everything from complete engine, tranny, uncut harnesses, ECU, sensors, exhaust manifold, turbine, intercooler piping, intercooler. It helps also to have a translated NISSAN factory manual to go by. The rear ends are the same, as well as the suspension. Exhaust routing is identical, and can use SR20DET exhaust piping.

I don't drive a 240SX in the US. I drive a 180SX in Japan.

Dale
SKR Performance

s13man
11-14-2001, 07:11 PM
hey Shin-Kai,

did your 180 get the sr20 or ca18. my 2hundy got the ca18 which kinda sucks, but it is a great engine and from what i gather it is even slightly more tech than the sr20 of the same era.

still modifications are extremely easy for both.

superposition
11-14-2001, 07:43 PM
oh bummer!! :eek: , that doesn't look like an Integra type-r at all. anyways, I feel sorry for their owners, not knowing whether they're still alive or not.

96SEChick
11-14-2001, 08:45 PM
Shin-Kai,

You're right. I meant to say "what's worse than thinking the 240SX is FF". I did have a little typo in there. Thank you for clearing it up.

I love my rear-wheel drive. I'm having a hard time finding another smaller sports car here in Tulsa w/ the FR setup, without trying to figure out how to finance a BMW.

s13man
11-14-2001, 09:07 PM
you could try a mazda mx5, they've got very responsive handling but the motors pretty boring. hang on they come with rotaries in them in the US don't they? that would be one exciting hairdresser mobile.

Shin-Kai Racing
11-15-2001, 01:55 PM
S13- I drive a 1995 180SX, which came with SR20DET. The CA18DET powerplants are no punks by any stretch of the imagination. They seem to have stronger bottom ends, which is always a plus. It seems that the aftermarket industry in Japan has gotten away from CA18 support, which may be because a lot of folks with S13 have gone with SR20 conversions. Red tops are plentiful, as well as the black tops, but the sticker price for a black top is well above a red top. I do know that the factory S15 turbines are highly sought after by red top users, for one reason or another. I've never inquired about the reason why. Mazda Eunos MX-5 did not come with rotary.

96SE- I have a friend who lives in OK who recently moved there from Japan. His name is Bill Cummings, and he is doing a Japan conversion on his S13. If you are looking for another smaller car with FR, look into the MAzda RX-7 FC3S. They are plenttiful and relatively cheap. Turbine and non-turbine.

Dale
SKR Performance

s13man
11-15-2001, 03:25 PM
i think the SR20 comes with a garret T28 and my CA18 has got a T25g (same as 300zx) turbo. T28 have a bigger housing and also a bigger compressor wheel but the actual unit is the same size, and if u get it off an SR20 (particularly s14) its pretty much a bolt on. however if u want an ever better unit go for the t28 ball bearing turbo off the s15, which spools up alot faster.

any of u americans heard of MX5's coming out with rotors as standard cause i'm sure i've read about it before.

johns95200sx
09-03-2004, 02:04 AM
Refferring back to the statement of the 200sx being a FF car, that is a true statement if you live in North America.

Nissan released the 200sx in 95 and produced it until 98. The 200sx was a FF configured car that came in a se trim with the g16 and the se-r trim with the sr20de.

The 200sx is basically a two-door version of the 95-99 model Sentra.

I just purchased my car a week ago and it has been hell trying to learn about the car becuase most sites geared towards 200sx's are referring to the American 240sx.

As to why Nissan unwisely decided not to release a sr20det powered 240 in the states, it would have ruined sales of the over-priced 300zx. Why would anyone buy a N/A 300z with a ridiculous prize tag when you could purchase a turbo-charged 240 with better porformance for less?

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