tranny gear question

i was driving a couple days ago, and i had some pressure on the shifter on second and i pushed up on it and it moved from 2nd into neutral. this is my first standard car, so it this normal or something wrong?

Originally posted by Jay eS Iye
i was driving a couple days ago, and i had some pressure on the shifter on second and i pushed up on it and it moved from 2nd into neutral. this is my first standard car, so it this normal or something wrong?

if you push on the shifter, it will move...

so it will move out of gear without pushing the clutch?

also kinda O/T, what will help the shifter from wobbling back and forth?

im not really sure what its doing to your car, but until you find out, i advise you NOT TO DO THAT ANYMORE! ! it might wear you clutch out faster. . . does anyone really know what it does?

Ummm the shifter popping into N without you touching it is a bad sign.

the shifter should and can move out of second or any gear is you push on it at the right rpm.

for instence...if youare accelerating and its in second you can push the shifter out of second with out the clutch , but getting it into 3rd w/o the clutch is alot harder because you have to rev match it and if your wrong you'll grind the gears.

the wobbling thats another issue

Originally posted by FourthGenHatch
Ummm the shifter popping into N without you touching it is a bad sign.

no no, i am touching it, in fact i was pushing up slightly, didn't mean to but it freaked me out... but i didn't try to push it into 3rd, i could just imagine the grinding that would make... for hte wobbling, i'm kinda thinkin its the bushings or something

My friend had a cheroke and showed me how he shifter without using the clutch. Didnt really trust it. Also, if you grind it, you WILL hear and feel it. It sucks!!

Getting it out of gear is easy...and isn't really an issue...it is a lot easier when the engine isn't under load (i.e. light to no acceleration) - stuffing it back into gear without the clutch wears out the synchros, but is nice to know how to do if your clutch ever fails (cable breaks, etc.)

The wobbling is the rear joint bushing & bolt under the car that connects your shifter to the shift rod. You can tighten it up a little, but if you get it too tight it won't slide and pivot correctly when you move the shifter....You really should remove the shifter, and unbolt it from the rod, and rebuild the bushing (there is grease and rubber o-rings and stuff inside the bushing), or buy a $30 short shifter at the same time. Most (but not all) come with fresh bushings, (my B&M re-used the bushing, but gave me grease and new o-rings :bloated: ) then you just need to tighten it right so it is not loosey goosey, but still moves freely.

The shifter arm sits inside the shift rod fork, and when you tighten the bolt the rod fork gets squeezed and makes it feel tight...our 12+ year old cars tend to have a little play in them and it feels sloppy, sometimes tightenting that bolt a little helps..but again, not too tight, or it will be hard to move..