Evolution

There are documents about noahs ark, any pictures, any real evidence? About evolution evidence: What more do you need? Look outside you dummy, open your eyes. You are so narrow minded and stubborn you can't even realize the truth.

Um, dino bones are millions of years old, i don't think it's thirty thousand, It's been proven time in and time out. As to see proof of the earth being a mere 30k years old is ludicrous, who told you that, the voice in your head?

The earth is about 5 billion years old, get it through your head.

What about evidence that the continents of today were once one big mass. They all fit together so cleanly, and the atlantic ocean has an expanding ridge on its floor, that is pushing NA/SA away from Africa, Europe, Asia.

Noahs ark. How big was that; isn't it about 3 miles long or something? How did he build it/what tools did he use? Was it just him? How did the food he took inside not spoil? Did he have a farm in there to feed all the animals? What about the carnivores, what did they eat, the other animals or a meat substitute? The great flood certainly must have tossed the ark around in it's massive waves, how come none of the animals died? Surely slamming into the walls, ceiling and floor of the ark, because the tossing of the waves, must have killed the animals, shattering their bones and internal organs.
How could Noah have collected all those animals so fast, kept them from fighting each other, waiting on the line to get in the ark? How could he have kept them from running away even?
Hey, if the ark is in a museum somewhere, I'd like to go see it. I mean, they have dinosaur museums, and according to you, Noah brought dinosaurs on the ark too, so there must be an ark museum right?

You can't answer those questions, can you?

Get it through your narrow mind, YOU ARE WRONG.
I guess money isn't the only thing that tarnishes the truth...

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First I didn't read the last 2 pages but I think a lot of you should be a bit more open minded if the want to survive in the future. Shure it's very difficult to explain if God did all that stuff or not. I'm also into scientific belivements but I also belive in God 'cause there exist the same amount of stuff even science can't explain. So you guys tell me that we were created out of a plurb and evoluted to what we are today, maybe but science can't proof this neither all the holes in the evolution theory. Both believements have big holes in it like Swiss chees:D but maybe if we combine those theories we cann fill them out.
Belive what ever you want we anyway wont find the truth unless we can travel back in time to our beginning.

Originally posted by MBTN
There are documents about noahs ark, any pictures, any real evidence? About evolution evidence: What more do you need? Look outside you dummy, open your eyes. You are so narrow minded and stubborn you can't even realize the truth.

I look outside and see a world that could be very easily created by an all-powerful God. You're stubborn too.

I don't see any photgraphs or real evidence of missing links (or whatever evolutionary transition you happen to believe in).


Um, dino bones are millions of years old, i don't think it's thirty thousand, It's been proven time in and time out. As to see proof of the earth being a mere 30k years old is ludicrous, who told you that, the voice in your head?

How has this been proven time in and time out...with a faulty carbon dating method?? The increasing amount of C14 in the atmosphere told me it's no more than 30K years old, as well as the voice in my head :)


The earth is about 5 billion years old, get it through your head.

How do you know?


What about evidence that the continents of today were once one big mass. They all fit together so cleanly, and the atlantic ocean has an expanding ridge on its floor, that is pushing NA/SA away from Africa, Europe, Asia.

I believe this, too...it makes sense considering the similarities of opposing coasts. I haven't yet looked into what made them come apart, if someone could inform me, then I can formulate my opinion about it.


Noahs ark. How big was that; isn't it about 3 miles long or something? How did he build it/what tools did he use? Was it just him? How did the food he took inside not spoil? Did he have a farm in there to feed all the animals? What about the carnivores, what did they eat, the other animals or a meat substitute? The great flood certainly must have tossed the ark around in it's massive waves, how come none of the animals died? Surely slamming into the walls, ceiling and floor of the ark, because the tossing of the waves, must have killed the animals, shattering their bones and internal organs.
How could Noah have collected all those animals so fast, kept them from fighting each other, waiting on the line to get in the ark? How could he have kept them from running away even?
Hey, if the ark is in a museum somewhere, I'd like to go see it. I mean, they have dinosaur museums, and according to you, Noah brought dinosaurs on the ark too, so there must be an ark museum right?


The ark was 300 cubits long (a cubit is ~18 inches, overall about 450 feet long), 50 cubits (75 feet) wide, and 3 stories tall. He built it with hammers and saws (remember, the earth had already been around for 1600 years, I think they could have figured out building tools by then), and out of "gopher wood", which is likely an old name for some common wood. Yes, it was just him. It took him plus or minus 100 years. The food was preserved. He very well could have had a garden on the ark. Carnivores ate preserved meat he brought on board. Of course they got tossed around during the rain (no more than you or I would), it only rained for 40 days, after that it was probly quite calm. That's why he got tough kid animals, not brittle old ones. How could he collect them? God's help and a lot of bait. No, there is no ark museum. I don't see any missing link museum, though.


You can't answer those questions, can you?


I just did.


Maybe I'm wrong, but you seem awful desperate. Mostly because every post you just yell, either refuting everything I say but not mentioning why you don't believe it, or by repeatedly asking me questions that I already answered.

100 years for one man to make it is understandable I guess, how come his body didn't age then? He would have had to be extremely healthy, and extremely in shape to live that long. I find that odd that he lived that long...

Where is the ark now?!

OK, so "god" created the one spec that the universe exploded into billions upon billions of years ago. Who created "god". He couldn't have just popped up by him self now could he have? Certainly he came from somewhere or something.

There are too many discrepencies in your testimony.
You are wrong, I'll admit that, I have no problem admitting you being wrong.

I'm done. From now on any response you type I will not even look at in this topic.

Conclusion:
You're wrong.
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Heep! You don't see any evidence of missing links? Eohippus, Mesohippus, neanderthals.....I could go on and on if you wish. Those are just some from horses and human ancestors. We have bones that are basically human....but just not quite there. We have bones that seem to slightly proceed those, all the way back to ones that are damn near simean. We have used carbon dating to prove them to be in succession...but, I'm sure that according to you using carbon dating to prove something which supports carbon dating would be circular logic, huh?

MBTN...Well, although by today's standards Noah would have obviously been quite old, but according to the bible, there are cases of people living many hundreds of years. Believe it if you will, and I'm sure (like me) you wont.

I believe in a pre-flood firmament that covered the earth and also held water above the surface. The Bible supports this, and it supports all my beliefs, too, so I believe it. It blocks our SOME C14, resulting in even less taken in by living things pre-flood, and why some things end up being so old using carbon dating. This firmament resulted in less radiation and UV rays, etc., so it explains why people lived so long. It also made the air closer to pure oxygen, which would produce people that grew more, such as 11 foot human skeletons and those with huge foreheads, etc. It also explains where a lot of the water that covered the earth in the flood came from. Only problem is that I (currently, I may find some...) have no scientific evidence for this firmament, so I the only way I can support it is by showing how much it ties together all of my beliefs.

Anyway, simply to be fair to MBTN, I will also back out of this topic, thus eliminating any unopposed statements.

It was fun.

Let me start off by saying the reason we know the Earth is 5 Billion years old is for 2 reasons. We can read the layers like tree rings. And Carbon Dating. I have seen this upclose, I have been to many digs where they used this in labs to test UtahRaptor bones. Its probably our most accurate form of dating we know. All chemicals too, and even comes with a fail safe check system. Its been wrong, but not way wrong..

The second leading evidence of evolution is happening before your eyes. Japanese men are growing taller with the introduction of American culture. Eskimo's skine is growing thicker, and they have an extra layer of fat to keep the cold out. Nepalesians have the largest lungs in the world, enabling them to climb mountains in record time. This shows distinct evidence in evolution.

The other strong piece of evidence is skeletal remains of the different races. There are distinct differences in the skulls, hip bones, and the size of the different limbs. This shows isolated evolution, which also cancels out the Adam and Eve 1 pair makes all theory. I have seen skeletons of Asian and African background, and let me say, upclose, they are nothing alike. Their overall shape is alike, but thats all. These tiny details prove evolution.

One of my favorite quotes is "Nature will find a way" and its probably very accurate. Nature has. In the desert. In the arctic. In Antarctic ice. If you look at the scientific facts, and from that standpoint, you will see evolution is alive and well in the modern world.