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turbonetrix
10-24-2001, 04:49 PM
Looks like Nissan tripped on something with the 2002 SE-R spec V.

SportCompactCar, in there recent december 2001 issue declared they only got 141 wheel hp out of on the dyno. And that Nissan now claims the Spec V makes 175hp not 180. The last four or five pre-production cars nissan put out only managed to make 142 wheel hp and the production model now only makes 141 whp. What the hell happened? I am a dihard Nissan fan and am now seriously pissed off! How can the new se-r spec v only do 0-60 in 7.8seconds. thats in the same area of the sentra se SCC tested. What is going on? How can the factory claim 175hp (at the crank) and lose 29 hp through the drivetrain? Looks like Nissan is trying to just get false recognition. It's a pity it cant even beat the "classic" which had 140+ hp (don't know exactly).

Anyone with comments

G-Forces
10-24-2001, 05:18 PM
Yeah 141whp does seem a little low for a 175hp car.

As for the 0-60 don't get your panties in a bunch about it. Nissan made the gearing optimal for the power band not the stupid 'standard' car mag tests. There is an extra shift to get to 60, since it's a six speed. I bet the 0-50 would kick some ass though. And don't say 0-50 doesn't matter because it's just as arbitrary as 0-60. :p

If you look at the specs you'll probably be a little dissapointed. However for the price this car kicks ass. And if anyone gives you flack about a 7.8 0-60 I bet one race will have them scratching their heads.

Nissan built a track car, not a drag car.

turbonetrix
10-24-2001, 07:11 PM
OK, ok

I know they built it as a track car, but I was still hoping for something better to show to the group of H-racers (or ricers). But the fact that it can match the type-r in skidpad is impressive. Dont get me wrong I do think the se-r came out great but it's just not like Nissan to make false claims. In fact they've been known to underestimate thereselves. An Si can match it in the quarter mile too (maybe it's close ratios, as you mentioned), Si 15.7 same for the se-r. But as long as the se-r spec v's price stays at 16,900 then it's still a bargin just as the "classic" of yore.

G-Forces
10-26-2001, 10:00 AM
Yup as far as being a good benchracing car the new SE-R sucks. :( It's tough to argue with some people if they just take what's printed in magazines as gosple. If they won't meet you on a track or auto-cross course then just let them have their little fun.

Put up or shutup I always say. :)

turbonetrix
10-26-2001, 11:44 AM
This is what I have to say to those fakers :finger: :flipa: :finger: :flipa: :finger: :flipa: :rocket:

black019
11-03-2001, 06:35 PM
once the aftermarket kicks in they will be huge

0805041605
11-23-2001, 01:10 AM
i still think they shoulda used a sr20ve instead of the qr25. the qr will prolly be good for NA power, but turbocharging will be a bitch

Pharty012
11-25-2001, 04:26 PM
my friend's boss has the new v spec and already put a t4 turbo in it i think... with a 50cc shot of nos i want to see it run though... i only heard..

CanadianG
11-25-2001, 08:37 PM
fast enough to be 170hp but I guess I was so excited to drive it that I got carried away. Now that I think about it my g60 corrado woulda eaten it alive!

MiniSkylineR
11-30-2001, 09:58 AM
I just recently purchased a new spec v se-r. I read the sports compact issue before going to the dealer and was a little depressed. After test driving though I was hooked. Yea the car is not as quick as other cars such as the rsx type s and celica gt-s but the car is A LOT cheaper. I test drove a gt-s prior to the spec v. They wanted 22g for it, the spec v 17g. So if money is an issue as it is with me the spec v is definetly the winner.
Torque is the car's key. Although it's depressing looking at the speedometer after feeling all the torque. I have yet to rev it past 4500rpm because I want to break it in nice. I'm hoping that maybe the car needs to be broken because losing 34 horsepower would mean nissan engineers are idiots. I'm banking on the hope that they are not.

Sentra Styling
12-03-2001, 10:04 AM
Well it's true Guys....Someone on our forums went and dyno'd thier Spec-V and only came up with 141HP's......

MiniSkylineR
12-03-2001, 12:28 PM
Sentra Styling.... do you know what his the torque rating was? I just can't believe it, I wish I would have waited a year to get one now. 34 horsepower disappearing into the air sure means nissan engineers screwed up big time. Oh well, still a fun car.

Sentra Styling
12-03-2001, 05:33 PM
Originally posted by MiniSkylineR
Sentra Styling.... do you know what his the torque rating was? I just can't believe it, I wish I would have waited a year to get one now. 34 horsepower disappearing into the air sure means nissan engineers screwed up big time. Oh well, still a fun car. 141hp and 151 ft.lbs torque...

G-Forces
12-06-2001, 04:24 PM
Guys I wouldn't worry about the peak figures too much. Unless you're into bench racing with your friend and who has bigger number forget it. However I saw a dyno plot recently with a stock SE-R Spec V and a full bolt on w/cams Classic SE-R. There is way more area under the curve on the Spec V. The torque on that thing is amazing.

Also to note the aftermarket is really going to kick ass on this car. AEM already made a CAI and the results are excellent. They tested it at +9hp and +11ft-lbs at the wheels! This comes from a VERY reliable source. I'll bet there is more power to be found in the exhaust too. I wouldn't be suprised to see SE-R hitting 16xhp, 17x+ft-lbs at the wheels with just the basic I/H/E.

Mike_in_Canada
12-29-2001, 01:40 PM
Hi Guys,

I was about to buy a Spec V until I saw the review that slammed it for having 141 hp on the dyno test. It's a shame. It's still an amazing car for its class, no doubt, but wouldn't it make more financial sense to buy the plain SE-R? If the performance is about the same, why not save the money and use it for upgrades?

Hope you guys can help!

Mike in Canada :cool:

lockemiester
01-03-2002, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by Mike_in_Canada
Hi Guys,

I was about to buy a Spec V until I saw the review that slammed it for having 141 hp on the dyno test. It's a shame. It's still an amazing car for its class, no doubt, but wouldn't it make more financial sense to buy the plain SE-R? If the performance is about the same, why not save the money and use it for upgrades?

Hope you guys can help!

Mike in Canada :cool:

I think the better handling is one reason. Even if you have plans to upgrade the susp.

G-Forces
01-04-2002, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by Mike_in_Canada
If the performance is about the same, why not save the money and use it for upgrades?

I think you'll be very dissapointed the first time you got you ass handed to you by a Spec-V. ;)

Sentra Styling
01-05-2002, 11:13 AM
I'd deffinetly say get the Spec-V over the Se-R...Even though the Spec-V produces a slightly higher horsepowered 2.5L but it's still 15-20 horses over the Se-R's slightly de-tuned 2.5L,which isn't totaly ass whoping but every bit counts..
Plus you don't get the slighty better/sportier tuned suspension in the Se-R as you do with the Spec-V and also the Spec's have the 17's and the red interior,which the Se-R doesn't....

G-Forces
01-05-2002, 11:33 PM
The Spec-V is worth it for the limited slip alone! The rest is just gravy. ;)

Sanchi
01-06-2002, 07:08 PM
:confused: :confused: okay a question ...

what does the Limited Slip acturlly do, whats it for??? just wondering:confused: :confused:

Sentra Styling
01-06-2002, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by SE-R WolfPac
:confused: :confused: okay a question ...

what does the Limited Slip acturlly do, whats it for??? just wondering:confused: :confused: Viscous limited-slip differential directs torque to whichever front wheel offers the best traction. This enables quicker acceleration out of tight corners...

Sanchi
01-07-2002, 01:13 AM
AHHH:o :D :D

WOW thats kewl.. so thats why the Spec V is so krazy on the track

lockemiester
01-07-2002, 09:46 AM
The Spec has a helical LSD whitch is gear driven instead of liquid. both do the same exept the Spec's is much more responsive than a Viscous LSD.

liebokid11
01-07-2002, 11:44 PM
Hey I went to the Nissan Dealership that my family deals with and they can't get a Spec V for me without 1000 bucks for a search or something? Well whatever . . . if i don't want to wait till march for getting a spec v they can get me an auto SE-R right away. The reason I would have to get an auto SE-R is because my mom would need to drive it and can't drive stick at all. I really wanted the spec v but is the SE-R that bad??? Is it really slow??? maybe i can put a performance kit on it or something??? please respond back thanks . . . :rolleyes:

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