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1987 Camry Starting Issues


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michaelkent
04-16-2009, 04:04 PM
I bought this toyota camry to work on and get running for cheap. The old owner said he did the fuel pump but still wouldnt start. I definitely has good fuel pressure, seems like too much almost. It just pour massave amounts out the filter when I remove the line. It had good compression at first then seems to rev high now like you have the plugs out but they arent. I can smell gas like crazy and the plugs are soaked so I think it may have gotten cylinder wash from all the fuel in the cylinder causing it to loase compression. It also has spark but I havent checked the timing belt or anything like that yet. I also checked the cold start injector and its working fine. I got several codes but I think they are meaningless, vss out of range. Any help would be great cause I dont know alot about these cars (http://www.carforums.net/showthread.php?t=79194&highlight=camry#). I was thinking something with the injectors or fuel regulator causing it to dump alot of gas into the engine but I dont know. There has to be a reason there is so much fuel in the engine. Any ways thanks in advance for the help.

RIP
04-17-2009, 04:12 PM
A bit fuzzy but you might try removing the timing belt cover and make sure the belt hasn't jumped timing settings. Spark indicates the belt hasn't broken but an apparent lack of compression with high speed rotation sound could mean the belt has slipped so much the both valves are open to some degree bleeding compression as the piston rises.

michaelkent
04-18-2009, 02:30 AM
A bit fuzzy but you might try removing the timing belt cover and make sure the belt hasn't jumped timing settings. Spark indicates the belt hasn't broken but an apparent lack of compression with high speed rotation sound could mean the belt has slipped so much the both valves are open to some degree bleeding compression as the piston rises.

Actually just today I did check the belt and OMG it is torn to shreds but still together in one piece. I bet it has 150K miles on it. Fiberglass shreds everywhere. It was also so loose I could physically move it back and forward and when I grabbed it the teeth busted off in a spot. Definitely the problem here. Once i can get the damned crank pulley dampner off I can continue pulling the covers off and replacing the belt and whatever else is broke in there.

RIP
04-18-2009, 03:39 PM
When you're in there change the water pump and any seals that look iffy. A new tension spring wouldn't be a bad idea either. I learned the hard way once. Changed the Tbelt only on a 94 Camry and 20K miles later the pump siezed taking the Tbelt with it and stranding my daughter on the side of a highway 200 miles away. Forced to take it to a nearby Toyota dealer they soaked me for a grand to fix it. An expensive way to learn the importance of changing the pump at least every other Tbelt change.

michaelkent
04-18-2009, 04:02 PM
I wanna make sure before I take it completely apart that I have the timing figured out. So looks like I line up the crank at 0" TDC on #1 cylinder. Then put cam gear lined up with the hole and the mark behind it. Let me know if thats right cause sometimes timing can be a pain if done incorrectly.

Mike Gerber
04-18-2009, 08:54 PM
Try the generation 2 Toyota factory service manual stickied at the top of this forum. It will have the procedure for replacing the timing belt.

Mike

michaelkent
04-18-2009, 10:54 PM
I did read that. And thats what it says to do. I worked as a tech for toyota dealer quite a few years ago but needed a refreshing course.

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