05-14-2008, 06:12 PM
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AF Newbie
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are these trannies the same?
i have a 96 camry i bought a few months back, sussposedly it was the torque convertor, but now i had a mechanic tell me its the whole transmission. well luckily a friend of mine blew the motor on his 95 (oil leaking from underneath while he was driving, so im thinking it blew) and said i can have it as long as i go get it from the side of the road. the blown motor car has about 315k miles on it, while my blown tranny has about 190k miles it. so im wondering if i can pull the tranny out of the 95 and will it work in my 96? are they the same?
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05-15-2008, 10:32 AM
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The RustBuster
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Re: are these trannies the same?
As long as the two engines are the same displacement, they will more than likely be the same.
Also, (and help me on this if anyone knows more) I believe that some '95s (the V6s?...Japan vs US made?) and all '96s were OBD-II compliant, which was required on '96 and up vehicles. Check to see if the '95 is OBD-I or -II compliant. The swap will be much easier if they are both the same...using the same wiring harnesses, sensors, etc.
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05-15-2008, 11:44 AM
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Re: are these trannies the same?
What type of engine is it? Is it a 3SGE or a 5SFE?
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05-15-2008, 01:19 PM
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Re: are these trannies the same?
All 1MZ-FE engines ('94-->) are OBDII. 5S-FE engines were OBDII in '96 and newer. Never was a 3S-GE in a Camry from the factory.
If the engine in the two cars were both 1MZ-FE 6 cyl then they will fit. If they were both 5S-FE 4 cyl then there will be a problem with the wiring. I believe the '96 5S-FE transmission has sensors/connectors the '95 doesn't have. Installing the older transmission will give you a "Check Engine" trouble code, but it may still work correctly.
With 315K miles on the tranny, you may be installing one that is on its last legs. Check the fluid in the tranny before you invest time in that swap. If the fluid is burnt looking or really dark or smell bad, or the owner admits to poor maintenance habits on the tranny, you should probably pass on using it.
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05-15-2008, 06:02 PM
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Re: are these trannies the same?
how do i know which motor it is? they both are 4 cylinder motors and says "2200" on the top of it. the 96 was born on 5/96 and the 95 was born 4/95. i looked at the top of the trannies and they both have 2 electrical plugs in the same exact spot, but couldnt see any further.
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05-15-2008, 06:43 PM
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Re: are these trannies the same?
Most likely, it's a 2.2L 5SFE engine if it's a I-4.
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05-15-2008, 07:40 PM
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Re: are these trannies the same?
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Originally Posted by Brian R.
Never was a 3S-GE in a Camry from the factory.
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I think xpeed was refering to the 3S-FE (4 cylinder) engine and not the 3S-GE.  The 3S-FE (4 cylinder) engine was used on 1987 through 1991 Camrys.
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05-16-2008, 12:16 AM
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Resident Chemist
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Re: are these trannies the same?
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Originally Posted by kev2809
how do i know which motor it is? they both are 4 cylinder motors and says "2200" on the top of it. the 96 was born on 5/96 and the 95 was born 4/95. i looked at the top of the trannies and they both have 2 electrical plugs in the same exact spot, but couldnt see any further.
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It is a 5S-FE. If there are no differences in the electrical connections, you should be good to go. There are numerous DTCs available in the '96 related to the transmission that were not available in the '95. Be careful before you spend your time.
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05-20-2008, 09:20 AM
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AF Newbie
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Re: are these trannies the same?
are there more than 2 electrical connections other than the 2 you can see from looking down on top of the tranny from outside the car?
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05-20-2008, 10:32 AM
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Resident Chemist
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Re: are these trannies the same?
Download the '94 and '99 Camry Service Manuals linked in the sticky thread at the top of this forum. Go through the removal and external disassembly instructions. If there are differences, see if you can judge if they are minor (like changes in wording) or are they talking about something like an external electrical connector that is present in one and not the other.
That or examine them visually very carefully with a mirror when necessary. You may wait a while before someone with that knowledge reads this thread.
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