Ok, everytime i race someone i get crapped on for picking on a lesser of a car so im asking you guys....Whats fair? Ive raced a modded Civic Ex (crushed him) also raced a Civic Si that was modded(crushed again), what am i supposed to race!?

Heres my mod list: HKS high flow intake, 75mm programmed Maf, SVT TB, SVT intake plinum, SVT 19lbs injectors, UR pulley, MSD dig. ignition, 8.5 NGK wires,Venom 400 power module, Jet chip, Borla exhaust, Straight piped(no catylics/no pre-cats), matrix coilovers, B&M short throw shifter, 17"Enkie RS6 wheels, I have a NX Nitrous kit(75hp shot)but havnt used it yet. But, i would if i thought i would lose!:D

Wins a Wins if they race you they shouldnt bitch when they lose:eshooter:

Try finding one of those new turbocharged Neons to play around with when they come out. I don't get what you're looking for anyways I mean you seem like you want a good challenge but then you say you'll use nitrous if you're afraid of losing? What do you want?

Try some mustang GTs or a cobra.

What am i looking for? A hair raising damn good race, thats what im looking for. The nitrous would be used to spank V8's, i got it because of how many there are that think they are the sh**!! I really dont think they will come through with the Neon man, they already scratched the Cavalier idea, and to be honest GM and Dodge think about the same when it comes to performance in there cars. They are WAY behind when it comes to performance(except the Viper, but c'mon its a $50,000 car). So my point is im here to race the imports not Neons, dont get me wrong ill race whomever but i want some more imports under my belt!!!!!:devil:

Ive raced two GT's so far, ive won once but the one loss was before i had hardly any mods on my car. I think i would take him now. The only way the GT's can win is if the driver knows what hes doing. If they cant launch they are going to be playing catch up!! Now Cobras, dont know? Maybe with a 100hp shot half way through the 1/4 mile might do the trick but not sure. I think they would blow past me by the end of the race! Ill try some time!

Hmmm ... sounds like you need to tangle with a fast car.

like a single turbo MKIV Supra :jump:
:D

I think they are supposed to be producing those turbo neons next year or the year afterwards. They are definately going into production, the demand is there for it.

So eh....try a Cobra or a Z28/SS. Good luck if you happen to run into a 2003 Cobra though....
Imports, yeah try the Supras. Maybe try and find a fast 300ZX or Rx-7 around your area.

We can give you recommendations all day long but don't you think it would be better to get to know some people who race? They would know whats fast around your area better then any of us could tell you.

Try finding a newer Porsche to race (this excludes the slow boxster), there are a good deal of them almost wherever you go. I know out where I live there is an incredible amount of big dollar cars, so finding a fast car to race isn't all that tough, only takes a hour or two of riding around. But yea, watch out for single turbo Supras, some are laying down over 700rwhp (no nitrous) on the street.

s2000

Have you ever had your cougar to the track? It shouldnt be to hard to find another vehicle to give you a run for your money. Since with your mods you are probably running around a 15 flat or so.

How about a little postwhoring?

WOOHOO!!! WE GOT NEW SMILIES!
:puke12: :thumbup: :jumpie: :spam: :spam2: :twoguns:

Originally posted by CougarSVT
What am i looking for? A hair raising damn good race, thats what im looking for. The nitrous would be used to spank V8's, i got it because of how many there are that think they are the sh**!! I really dont think they will come through with the Neon man, they already scratched the Cavalier idea, and to be honest GM and Dodge think about the same when it comes to performance in there cars. They are WAY behind when it comes to performance(except the Viper, but c'mon its a $50,000 car). So my point is im here to race the imports not Neons, dont get me wrong ill race whomever but i want some more imports under my belt!!!!!:devil:

Are you talking about the SRT-4 Neon??? They're already in production... I saw one at the Dodge Dealership about 2 weeks ago...

Ummm, Vipers are near $85,000... dont know where you got $50,000 from.

Did you forget about Corvettes? I'm sure either a Viper or a 'Vette would tear you up.

Or If you really want a good race, head on out to PA and race my good buddy Hybridsol... He's got probably the fastest Import on AF. He'll show you a good race.

Then, after you loose. You can take a trip out to KY, and race 94Svt5.0, I'm sure his 'slow' V8 would show ya a thing or two.

And after that loss, you can come on out to AZ, and race R1Rider and see how well bikes do...

And since your in AZ, might as well come to CA and race TerminalV with his mighty Thunderbird. Or you can race Me... By that time I should have everything completed on the Nova.

So... In conclusion... Bring It:twoguns: :jumpie:

Already being sold huh? Well looks like the Firebird is going to get its ass kicked a few times now by 4 bangers....

I'm sure they'll try and rev at my mighty 80's L98 :p.

Hey Cougar, how do you fare against a ITR with just basic bolt ons like i/h/e with you racing only on motor? That should be a good race. But a decent driver of that ITR should come out on top.

Originally posted by 94svt5.0
Have you ever had your cougar to the track? It shouldnt be to hard to find another vehicle to give you a run for your money. Since with your mods you are probably running around a 15 flat or so.


No, im running around 14.7 on a good day w/ good hookup, probably could run 15.0 flat all day long.!! Thats without nitrous. Probably near 14.0 flat w/ nitrous! Ill be taking her to the track this summer! But....hopefully the turbo kit will be on by then.

S2000....blah...easy! Havnt seen a good driver race one. Maybe if the driver was good it would be real close!

I hope your buddy w/ the fastest import is running under 10's, theres alot out there that are boosted!

Ok, when your done w/ your Nova ill set you up w/ Brian Mclaufflin that has one running 9 sec 1/4!!!

mmmmm i think an s2000 would smoke you with a decent driver.....

you must not know about hybridsol......

and redneck said he wanted to race you not mclaffin...whatever his name is

Originally posted by CougarSVT



No, im running around 14.7 on a good day w/ good hookup, probably could run 15.0 flat all day long.!! Thats without nitrous. Probably near 14.0 flat w/ nitrous! Ill be taking her to the track this summer! But....hopefully the turbo kit will be on by then.

S2000....blah...easy! Havnt seen a good driver race one. Maybe if the driver was good it would be real close!

I hope your buddy w/ the fastest import is running under 10's, theres alot out there that are boosted!

Ok, when your done w/ your Nova ill set you up w/ Brian Mclaufflin that has one running 9 sec 1/4!!!

Wow.. 14.7 is pretty quick. What are your 60' times?? And you think you're gonna run 14 flat with a 75 shot?? Dang. Thats a 7 tenth drop. It should be a good race between you(not squeezing) and a i/h/e ITR..


Redneck said that Hybridsol is probaly the fastest import(s) on AF.

Oh yea.. and if you ever get around to racing hybrid, he wouldn't even need to launch and you'd be done for. And yes, thats even if you're squeezing.

im sure hed even kick your ass in reverse *hybridsol*

cougarSVT a stock cougar with a good driver should be able to run mid 15's easily. you should be consistantly in high to mid 14's with the mods you have.

Originally posted by cougar4life
cougarSVT a stock cougar with a good driver should be able to run mid 15's easily. you should be consistantly in high to mid 14's with the mods you have.

ooooooooooo he said you drive like a girl! :finger: j/k!

I know of a couple of SupraTT's and 300ZTT's around town that would make you cry... And the funny part is they don't squeeze...

Have you tried one of the new 350Z/G35 Coupes yet?? That should be fun...

I'd run ya' if you weren't in Ohio!:p

Originally posted by DemonZX
I'd run ya' if you weren't in Ohio!:p

What stage are you at?

Probably I'd say 3 1/2

Battle of the imports was this last weekend at my home track in cali, we saw a brand new srt (bone stock) go 13.90's he was running 14.0's all day then when it cooled off a bit he got his 13. I Drove a srt-4 today, i hate 4 bangers but this thing is bad, for 20 you cant beat it. Also it stops better then my roomys 01 ss and it handles pretty damn good.

Originally posted by CougarSVT



No, im running around 14.7 on a good day w/ good hookup, probably could run 15.0 flat all day long.!! Thats without nitrous. Probably near 14.0 flat w/ nitrous! Ill be taking her to the track this summer! But....hopefully the turbo kit will be on by then.



With your numbers, you should try to take on a stock GTI 1.8T. They are 14.6-15.2 stock. That should be a drivers race

Originally posted by cougar4life
cougarSVT a stock cougar with a good driver should be able to run mid 15's easily. you should be consistantly in high to mid 14's with the mods you have.


No disrespect but NO stock Cougar will run under 16.0 1/4 mi. Check the stats on the cat first. It takes a shit load of bolt ons to make them run good, and some weight lose helps to. 2850lbs+170HP=16.1 1/4 mile!

My friend just bought a brand new 350Z (orange color?). We plan on racing this summer, but in all reality unless he cant drive he should walk me!
Oh, the guy that thinks S2000's are the shit, i have a video for you to watch that has a new Mustang GT with a h-pipe and exhaust racing a S2000 WITH nitrous and the S2000 got spanked, like i said they are not that impressive.....for the amount of $$ you have to spend to get one!
Like i said i know ALOT of Honda boys here that are NOT pro's and are running 11.0 1/4!! No disrespect to whatever his name is, my point was theres some tough-ass' out there that scare me half to death and not just one guy(whatever his name is). :p.

Originally posted by TDIguy


With your numbers, you should try to take on a stock GTI 1.8T. They are 14.6-15.2 stock. That should be a drivers race

Finally a good response! That does sound like a good race! I work w/ a kid that has a 1.8T VW but he wont race :devil:

14.7 an u think ur rollin like a god? bring ur car up to washington, an we'll show u how "quick u are." my frien in his ls/vtec h/b would love to run ur "fast cougar." first off...s2000=blow ur doors off. its a low 14's, high 13's car, so ur not even worth its time. u have a video to back urself up? big deal...i'll show u a geo metro whoopin the shit outta a supra...a video's a video, NOT IMPRESSIVE. u run 15.0 most of the time? big whoop...i'll run that with SIMPLE bolts an no backseat. run some imports that actually have something on them...beating a civic isn't impressive AT ALL. im not saying my car is fast by any means, but im not posting wut a "challenge" would be...go out, run some integras or try the new SRT-4's an have fun lookin at their tail lights. :rolleyes:

Originally posted by CougarSVT



No, im running around 14.7 on a good day w/ good hookup, probably could run 15.0 flat all day long.!! Thats without nitrous. Probably near 14.0 flat w/ nitrous! Ill be taking her to the track this summer! But....hopefully the turbo kit will be on by then.

S2000....blah...easy! Havnt seen a good driver race one. Maybe if the driver was good it would be real close!

I hope your buddy w/ the fastest import is running under 10's, theres alot out there that are boosted!



The guy that suggested you run an Integra Type R suggested a good challenge for you...make sure you spray. Quite a few of them have broken into the 13's with just bolt-ons...NO forced-induction. With that in mind, S2000s are FASTER than the ITRs.

Ask these guys (http://www.s2ki.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=34) for a race...I'm sure one of them lives by you. You can also ask them about their various Mustang GT kills. One of these races were between a stock S2000 and a mildly-modified 99GT (incidentally, this is also the GT owner's screenname in there). The GT owner himself said he lost. They're pretty cool guys so PLEASE don't go in there flaming, considering I linked you there.

EDIT: They have a video of the GT VS S2000 race, I believe...I know I've seen one such race there.

Race a Camro Z28 thats been modded i got beaten by like 4 car lengths when i did that.

Originally posted by NSX-R-SSJ20K
Race a Camro Z28 thats been modded i got beaten by like 4 car lengths when i did that.

What were you in?

But yea, I agree. A STOCK or lightly modded Z28 would probably be a nice challenge.

Originally posted by KrNxRaCer00
14.7 an u think ur rollin like a god? bring ur car up to washington, an we'll show u how "quick u are." my frien in his ls/vtec h/b would love to run ur "fast cougar." first off...s2000=blow ur doors off. its a low 14's, high 13's car, so ur not even worth its time. u have a video to back urself up? big deal...i'll show u a geo metro whoopin the shit outta a supra...a video's a video, NOT IMPRESSIVE. u run 15.0 most of the time? big whoop...i'll run that with SIMPLE bolts an no backseat. run some imports that actually have something on them...beating a civic isn't impressive AT ALL. im not saying my car is fast by any means, but im not posting wut a "challenge" would be...go out, run some integras or try the new SRT-4's an have fun lookin at their tail lights. :rolleyes:

My cousin owns a 2000 GS-R with the same mods as you except for the v-tech controller. Ive beat him time after time!! Who said running high 14's was impressive....i didnt, so dont put words in my mouth. Oh my best time was 14.47, but that was one hell of a lucky run and havnt been able to do it again so i dont post it often. Also asked for a good challenge BECAUSE people always make fun of me for picking on smaller cars, that has nothing to do with me thinking im all that.:rolleyes:

You say you're from Ohio? Come up to Cleveland and hunt down a certain Prelude I saw running around. (Yep, I think I spotted you on I-480, flywsi) He's stout.

Almost as stout as my baby, Layla. She may be laid up now, but once the bottom end is back in her, lookout. 1400lbs and 170bhp at the rear wheels will destroy any non-V8 Cougar.

Originally posted by carrrnuttt


The guy that suggested you run an Integra Type R suggested a good challenge for you...make sure you spray. Quite a few of them have broken into the 13's with just bolt-ons...NO forced-induction. With that in mind, S2000s are FASTER than the ITRs.



OH, yeeeeAAAAAA!!!! that was ME! HA! HAAA!

Originally posted by Octagon
You say you're from Ohio? Come up to Cleveland and hunt down a certain Prelude I saw running around. (Yep, I think I spotted you on I-480, flywsi) He's stout.

Almost as stout as my baby, Layla. She may be laid up now, but once the bottom end is back in her, lookout. 1400lbs and 170bhp at the rear wheels will destroy any non-V8 Cougar.


HMMM, NICE car you own!!!!!!!!! Ill race you in my 1961 MGA 1600 roadster that has a 1800cc engine swap w/ a high flow dohc aluminum intake! I LOVE MG's man, good choice of cars!!

No kidding? Stellar choice, man! I'm jealous, though. You probably can't see the ground through your floorboards. But hey, Layla was $450 out the door. I figure a Stage II rebuild kit from The Proper MG, hardened valve seats for unleaded gas, electronic ignition, copper slimline gaskets, a full rebuild for my Weber, and a hotter cam should take me up to 180-200hp. I know I can get 240hp once I go to dual Webers and a port job.

But I've seen some good prices on Rover V-8's as well. :angel:

Heck yeah! The main point in me swapping was dependability. That is putting in MSD ignition, coil, distributor etc.....Im a little at loss on the transmission though. Can i really use the MGB tranny with the 1800, can i get a better stronger tranny(aftermarket)? Do you still have probs with timing on the MGB GT? Oops this is way of subject, sorry!!

The best Morris Garages tranny I've encountered is the one in my B. The four-speed, non-overdrive box with straight cut gears. Totally bullet proof, though you might want a stronger synchro on 2nd to 3rd. I'm not sure if you can mount them in an A, but I've seen people work them into Midget/Sprites.

Of course, I've seen Midget/Sprites with Mazda RX-7 gearboxes and 13B rotaries, too.

As for timing, she's solid with stock ignition right now. Though as often as she fouls plugs it's hard to tell (the Weber is still dumping raw fuel into the cylinders :( ). My plan for electronic ignition centers around getting more efficient spark to burn the whole lot of fuel and air that a Weber, or two, pumps into the cylinders.

SVT, you go to Mid-Ohio or Nelsons Ledges at anytime?

Ive never gone to mid Ohio but have heard alot about it. Kilcare is the closest to where i live though. When the turbo is put on thats the place that ill will go to!

race a wrx from 0-30. :smoker:

My cars the fastest when going through the 0-60! Its after that is really when i should be using the nitrous!

I might be headed up to the Dayton are this summer. Maybe I can bring my brother's Turbo'd Si. I'm sure that'd give ya a bit of a run...and if he won't let me bring that...I can bring my innocent little Supra

civicHBsi91

U talk a lot of shiznit ...If u lived ne where in ohio i would race u w/ my car and spank u even in "reverse" buts all good.. 91 hatchbacks are one of the ugliest civic's made..who knows what honda was thinking..if u want my stock motor vs ur ne day! haah ur is prolly even an automatic huh..ha:finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: 93 probe gt if u cant read..:finger:
Gt~

Originally posted by CougarSVT
My cars the fastest when going through the 0-60! Its after that is really when i should be using the nitrous!


Dude.. do you know what a WRX is??? Turbo, AWD..... vs. your FWD?????? What the..:rolleyes:

Originally posted by PrimeTimeGt
civicHBsi91

U talk a lot of shiznit ...If u lived ne where in ohio i would race u w/ my car and spank u even in "reverse" buts all good.. 91 hatchbacks are one of the ugliest civic's made..who knows what honda was thinking..if u want my stock motor vs ur ne day! haah ur is prolly even an automatic huh..ha:finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: 93 probe gt if u cant read..:finger:
Gt~


First of all, Cougar SVT came off with the notion that he has no competition to give him a good run. And second of all(if you can't read), civicHBsi91 was using an exaggeration of HYBRIDSOL beating CougarSVT in "reverse."

Yeup, the WRX has way more torque than a Cougar, and it has no problems putting the power down, even on Pep Boys tires.

Originally posted by PrimeTimeGt
civicHBsi91

U talk a lot of shiznit ...If u lived ne where in ohio i would race u w/ my car and spank u even in "reverse" buts all good.. 91 hatchbacks are one of the ugliest civic's made..who knows what honda was thinking..if u want my stock motor vs ur ne day! haah ur is prolly even an automatic huh..ha:finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: :finger: 93 probe gt if u cant read..:finger:
Gt~

... 93 Ford Probe GT.... yep... only the fastest of racers drive those.... yep.

Originally posted by CougarSVT
Ive never gone to mid Ohio but have heard alot about it. Kilcare is the closest to where i live though. When the turbo is put on thats the place that ill will go to!

You should go to Mid Ohio, it is a great track. If you take your car out on it sometime, watch the hard right then hard left after the long rear straightaway, its kinda slippery :)

Try a Turbo Maxima :P

R-1, you took the words out of my mouth. I HATE that combo turn. Up hill right, then downhill left at the end of the front straight. Icky. Wasn't it Patrick Carpentier who flipped it end for end in that corner's gravel trap a year or so ago? Or maybe Michael Andretti?

But it's a driver's course. And quite pretty too, for middle-of-nowhere (read-Lexington) Ohio.

I'm not sure who it was that lost it there at the F1 race, but it is a dangerous combination of turns, that downhill left is so easy to slip your rear out, ofcourse when they SCCA race there that is the best place to sit, since all the cars com into that turn about 3-4 cars wide. But yes, Mid Ohio is a beautiful track, very secluded but what a nice view from the keyhole when you can look down at all the farmlands and stuff.

Originally posted by CougarSVT
My cars the fastest when going through the 0-60! Its after that is really when i should be using the nitrous!

:confused: If your FWD car is strongest off the line like that, then its not as fast as I thought I might be. Off the line the AWD pretty much rules the roost.

91 hatchbacks are one of the ugliest civic's made..who knows what honda was thinking..if u want my stock motor vs ur ne day! haah ur is prolly even an automatic huh..ha

Hur hur hur.....dur fukin idiot they didnt even make si's in auto, and if they are so ugly go checkout the 4g forum which has about the most posts for the honda board and probably one of the most populated forums on AF...retard :bloated:

Ya because the 4g is cheep:p Im not knocking your car but just because alot of people have it dosnt make it good:rolleyes: but im not getting involved in this argument:o

10+ year old cars with 200,000+ miles on them still hangin with the cars of today and gettin better gas mileage nope they suck! :rolleyes:

My 0-60 is 4.6(best) to 5.0(normal)! Its always 65% driver to 35% car, that means they better know how to launch that WRX(not as easy as you think)or they will be playing catchup through the 1/4 mile!! Besides, about the time the WRX was catching up they would have to deal w/ a 50 shot!! Yes ill use the shot if i see necessary, but havnt yet(i just bought it). Besides fellas my cars going in tomorrow for a 8psi boost at itsturbo! Soon i will be the so called "fastest new edge Cougar in my part of the country"!!:silly2: :silly2: :silly2: