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03-30-2008, 04:08 PM
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350 should be doing a burnout??? right?
hey, im looking into buying a 85 grand prix. im only 14 and im might trade him my 86 camaro 2.8l v6 for it. but his 85 grand prx has a 350 4 barrel with 152 000kms on it. it has a eldlebrock aircleaner and new valve covers and new alternator and rad hoses. but everything else seems stock. well wen me and my dad took her fo a spinaround the block. he floored it and it wouldent even burnout! it was running smooth but i though a 350 shoulda done a burn out. and it dident. so do u think theres a major problem and i shouldent make the trade!!?? PLZ REPLY
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03-30-2008, 04:32 PM
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Location: gone, Ohio
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Re: 350 should be doing a burnout??? right?
Fourth gen prix's didn't have a 350 from the factory, with the exception of that crappy Olds 350 diesel.
If its stock then its a 305 with around a pathetic 170 horsepower. It won't do a burn out if your already rolling. You would be doing good to smoke the tires longer then 20 feet from a stop.(and thats with "help")......you'll figure all that out eventually.
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03-31-2008, 10:06 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Glen Ellyn, Illinois
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Re: 350 should be doing a burnout??? right?
As said, dogged on power, and no gearing either.
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03-31-2008, 02:56 PM
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AF Newbie
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Los angeles, California
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Re: 350 should be doing a burnout??? right?
just think in 2 years you can drive legally!!!
KEEP YOUR CAMARO.
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04-01-2008, 05:23 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Greenville, Wisconsin
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Re: 350 should be doing a burnout??? right?
why are u in such a rush to find a car? you ave 2 years. i got my car a year early, but it was totaled. it killed watching it sit in the garage when we finished it.
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04-01-2008, 05:43 PM
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Re: 350 should be doing a burnout??? right?
camaros rule
+1 on keeping the camaro
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04-01-2008, 06:58 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Alexandria, Virginia
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Re: 350 should be doing a burnout??? right?
hey i just had a birthday so ill be the crodgity old man here....
its a bad idea for your first car to be able to do burnouts. theres a reason muscle cars from the past faded away. everytime one got wrapped around a telephone pole, kids died in carloads. Work your way up, i started with a 77 olds with a chevy 350, it only outran mostly stock preludes and such, but it was a small block, i learned alot wrenching on it, and was safe behind 2 tons of steel. i LOVED that car, and cried the day we sold it, despite the fact that i upgraded to an RS camaro. after i drove that for a while, i got the IROC. and now, wouldnt ya know it, i drive a 140hp 5200lbs truck
just saying, i give mad props, and cant fault you for being into the smell of burned rubber in the morning, and im sure as shit not your dad, but just sayin, the burnout shouldnt be a selling point on your first car IMHO.
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04-02-2008, 01:27 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salt Lake, Utah
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Re: 350 should be doing a burnout??? right?
I just replaced my tires a couple months ago. You don't want a car that can burnouts when you're that young. You'll be replacing tires before too long, especially if they had a lot of use in em like mine did. Also, if you live in a smaller town like mine, burnouts draw attention from the dozen local police who have almost nothing to do. The 2.8 isn't a beast, it won't win many races, but it will get you by. I can still pull an occasional one-wheel wonder if i'm really bored. Also, you'll be replacing a clutch or rebuilding an auto tranny before long if you get too addicted to burning rubber. My clutch cost almost $450-$500. It wasn't worth it.
Oh, and treat the 2.8 allright and it should last you to college at least. I know a kid with an 89 camaro with a 2.8 that has somewhere around 290,000 miles on it. This kid drives everywhere like he's in the Daytona 500. That engine has seen every condition and RPM possible. He runs it at redline for shits and giggles. Just treat it right and it will treat you right.
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1967 Firebird 400 V8 Convertible. Primer Grey with green bondo spots. Cam, Headers, Dual Exhaust w/glasspacks, larger valves, 4bbl carb. TH400 w/ Shift Kit. My dad's ride, but will be mine someday.
Mileage unknown, doesn't have original speedo, switched the 120 for a 160.
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04-02-2008, 01:47 PM
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Re: 350 should be doing a burnout??? right?
yeah keep the camaro build a v8 in yer spare time then when u get some wheel time swap it out and have fun
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04-03-2008, 11:48 AM
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AF Newbie
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: moberly, Missouri
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Re: 350 should be doing a burnout??? right?
keep the camaro.. i've owned a few 2.8's you cant kill them with normal driving, the 305's are kinda useless for getting power from.. and a rolling burnout even with a stock 350 would be tough unless you have the geared rearend/trans..
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04-03-2008, 12:12 PM
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Re: 350 should be doing a burnout??? right?
I'd ask the guy if he put the 350 in cause they don't offer one for those yrs. Even if it is a 350 it could be a wimpy one. back in the mid 70's till about 86 most 350's were dogs cause of the stricter emissions. Keep in mind you can totally build a wimpy 350 to a monster. Like the other dude said, 305's are looked down upon for making power and it's true they do kinda suck. I say keep the camaro, if it's in decent shape, and get your self a 350. or even a 400 small block. Then again i dunno how your folks are, i know mine are dicks when it comes to working on cars in there garage and shit.
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04-03-2008, 01:57 PM
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Re: 350 should be doing a burnout??? right?
man i wish i still lived with my parents , stupid house payment
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04-03-2008, 02:12 PM
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Re: 350 should be doing a burnout??? right?
ha, would you rather be 26, working two jobs, kid on the way another thats three and living with your parents? Let me add that i live with my grandmother,grandpa,dad, and mom.. My moms immature and screams all day, and my dad is a huge prick. my grandmother keeps my wife and i up all night cause shes a stroke victom and now she makes animal sounds instead of speaking in words.. Mean while my ex girl friend, with whom i have my 3yr old daughter with, gets all money money through child support, and lives in a nice ass apartment with not a worry in the world. Let me further add that she is physically violent and mentally unstable. she has a dui and has been arrested over 15 times for fighting. i'm in the process of going to court right now to gain full physical custody of my daughter, but everyone thinks shes a great mom cause she takes my daughter to her doctors visits. this is the reason i live with my parents, we are saving money until courts over with cause i may need a bigger home if i get my daughter. don't mean to rant but sometimes the grass isn't always greener on the other side. Maybe you can feel good about your life seeing how fucked up it really could be.
Just for the record i'm not some bum minority who's lazy/uneducatted and doesn't want to work. I grew up in a great neighborhood, graduatted highschool, went to colledge, but just can't catch a break.
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04-05-2008, 06:28 AM
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AF Newbie
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Los angeles, California
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Re: 350 should be doing a burnout??? right?
well bro, life's not over yet, you still got ur car right?
with all the crazy stuff you got in your life right now, just enjoy your hobby (cars) as much as you can and someday things will work out for you. don't let shit get you down...
i've had nutjob girlfriends myself, i feel your pain. good luck with your situation and your psycho ex.
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04-05-2008, 04:17 PM
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Re: 350 should be doing a burnout??? right?
heh heh im the 20 year old dude that cant move out because i dump all my money in my stupid project that has occupied my parents garage for 3 years so far. anywho, i believe some 80's and late 70's 350's were only rated at around 145 horsepower, which is chicken shit. you want to make sure that the reason it wont burn out is not because of an internal problem. i bought my project without knowing the cam was pretty much shot, so it backfired through the carb all the freakin time. plus who needs burnouts anyways, they just prove to the world that your grand prix can only do a one-wheel-wonder. the motor might not even be a 350. it could be a 283 or a 305 or something like that, which would suck to find out after buying the car.
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